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  • Enikk
    SBR MVP
    • 09-09-20
    • 1287

    #1
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    Why were my and other member's posts deleted? No rules were broken. None of the posts were obscene. The posts were just asking why all PRO members do not have an equal opportunity to join in the bowl contest.
    Last edited by Enikk; 12-10-21, 01:05 AM.
  • Enikk
    SBR MVP
    • 09-09-20
    • 1287

    #2
    Here is Roger's post that got deleted.

    Originally Posted by Roger T. Bannon
    It is strange not to include the entire site on $10,000.
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    • Enikk
      SBR MVP
      • 09-09-20
      • 1287

      #3
      Embarrassing look for whoever deleted all those posts and only makes one question the integrity of the contest. Please repost them. Just said that you can not limit the number of entries when a corporation is posting up the 10k prize pool where employees are allowed to enter. This is not a post up only prize pool. All PRO members should have a fair try at that prize pool if they choose to enter.
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      • Easy-Rider 66
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        • 02-14-12
        • 36100

        #4
        Originally posted by Enikk
        Why were my and other member's posts deleted? No rules were broken. None of the posts were obscene. The posts were just asking why all PRO members do not have an equal opportunity to join in the bowl contest.
        Any posts that go off topic after I asked not to do so in Post #149 will be deleted. This is one thread we cannot have cluttered with BS.




        see post #170 in the College bowl contest thread. the above quote is from LT
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        • Enikk
          SBR MVP
          • 09-09-20
          • 1287

          #5
          I believe your post was deleted as well Easy
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          • Easy-Rider 66
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            • 02-14-12
            • 36100

            #6
            OK this thread NEEDS to stay on track. From now on, I don't want to see anything except "In", percentages and/or teams, expect for my occasional updates on unpaid and unpartnered shares.


            This is LT from Post #149 of the contest thread. Yeah I saw my post was deleted. NO big deal
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            • Enikk
              SBR MVP
              • 09-09-20
              • 1287

              #7
              Our posts were on topic as a another MOD agreed the contests was not fair as posted.
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              • Easy-Rider 66
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                • 02-14-12
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                #8
                Originally posted by Enikk
                Our posts were on topic as a another MOD agreed the contests was not fair as posted.
                yeah maybe matter of interpretation.
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                • Enikk
                  SBR MVP
                  • 09-09-20
                  • 1287

                  #9
                  I would like to know a legitimate reason as to why my same PRO membership and others who are being left out do not have the same opportunity to join the Bowl contest with a 10k prize pool? Every PRO member should have until the deadline to post ONE entry if they send the 2500 points. This is not a post-up only prize pool. I paid the same donation to become PRO as everyone else and have always heavily supported the site's sponsors.
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                  • Optional
                    Administrator
                    • 06-10-10
                    • 61445

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Enikk
                    Our posts were on topic as a another MOD agreed the contests was not fair as posted.
                    The mod who agreed deleted your posts.

                    You had your say, and admin users can still see it.

                    But the other 5 posts after that were not needed and too negative for the promotion thread.

                    Want to keep it on track and positive.
                    .
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                    • Enikk
                      SBR MVP
                      • 09-09-20
                      • 1287

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Optional
                      The mod who agreed deleted your posts.

                      You had your say, and admin users can still see it.

                      But the other 5 posts after that were not needed and too negative for the promotion thread.

                      Want to keep it on track and positive.
                      Just not the case here. If anything my posts and other posts should have been moved NOT deleted like they never exited just because they were not of the same opinion. The posts did not break any rules. Also, you could have sent a PM stating you deleted the posts.

                      I have the same pro membership everyone else has. No pro member should be excluded from that contest if they choose to post up the 2500 points or be a part of a team with 2500 points. If this was a post up only prize pool and staff were not enrolled than yes the number of entries can be limited. Did you Optional, Spider, LT contribute the 10k or did the new owners/old owners contribute it for the pro members? If you Mods were the ones to contributing the 10k out of your own pocket than you have a right to do what ever you like.

                      Like I have posted but had been deleted in original thread, I will volunteer my time to grade the contest if all Pro members are included as that could be the only reason to limit the number of pro entries unless the staff enrolled limited the amount of entries so they had a better chance to win which I do not see being the case as I had a Mod reach out to me prior to contest being filled kindly offering to split a team only to instead split another team with a pro member who also already had a team. Everyone should be limited to one entry whether a team/individual.
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                      • Enikk
                        SBR MVP
                        • 09-09-20
                        • 1287

                        #12
                        Many of us were not fortunate to enter the contest the few days posted due to SBRs backlog of issues with betpoints still being owed from month prior and not having option to purchase betpoints to join. I am still owed from early November. I personally reached out to a future hall of fame member who had not yet been enrolled and asked him if he would like to split an entry. Unfortunately, he too missed out because the limited amount and select members/staff being allowed to have 1.5 entry's.
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                        • Bostongambler
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                          • 02-01-08
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                          #13
                          Eric, I’m nominating you for union president.
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                          • Enikk
                            SBR MVP
                            • 09-09-20
                            • 1287

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Bostongambler
                            Eric, I’m nominating you for union president.
                            I was the union president for one of the smaller companies that merged with the local 2599 Bethlehem Steel which is now a casino unfortunately in Coach's neck of the woods. Best Union meetings ever. Beer on tap and Pizza's and hoagies piled high to the ceiling. Only thing I didn't like now about that Union was how they hammered us to to get out the Democratic vote. That was the mid and late 90s though. Times have changed and you learn as you age.
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                            • Bostongambler
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                              • 02-01-08
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                              #15
                              Ok Erik, ok. Time for you to take office again. Let’s unionize. If the Starbucks workers can do it so can we.
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                              • JAKEPEAVY21
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                                • 03-11-11
                                • 29268

                                #16
                                The thread and rules were posted for everyone to see. Each member had an equal opportunity to enter. Maybe they will change some things for next year.
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                                • Enikk
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 09-09-20
                                  • 1287

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                                  Each member had an equal opportunity to enter.
                                  Not everyone was given an equal opportunity. Members were owed and still are owned points from early last month. LT posted a thread asking who was still owed and how much. I for one responded. Specifically mentioning this contest. My post along with others were ignored. Only some were addressed. We had to find alternate ways of finding points. Some borrowed and some had enough to split. I am sure Sammy will vouge for me that I PMed him to share a spot as well as Spider kindly PMed me offering to share but he chose to go with another member who already had a spot as well because it was one of the very last spots left and he didn't have time to wait for my confirmation email that I sent back.

                                  That is all besides the point though. If corporate cash is up for grabs for pro members only than every pro member should have an equal opportunity to have an entry as long as their points are sent and an entry is posted before deadline.

                                  I am not whinning although it may sound that way. I am not a mooch looking for a freebie. I would have joined this if it was a cash contest. I am a pro member who has deposited probably over 100k alone this past year to this sites sponsors(I am sure the Mods here can vouge for that as well). Degenerates like me are why companies can offer contests like this and EVERYONE should be included. 12-07-21 05:52 PM
                                  Enikk

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                                  Originally Posted by Enikk
                                  I won on 11/02, 11/04, & 11/25. Was paid for 2/3. I don't know which one wasn't paid.



                                  Wasn't paid for 12/02 as well. So missing (2) 175 point winners still in total. Normally wouldn't care as normally give pts away or blow in casino but when there are contests like the Bowl contest being offered that can only be played with points and not allowed to enter with cash it kinda svcks. Hopefully in future we can have cash contests as well.







                                  • 12-02-21 05:14 PM
                                    Enikk

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                                    I won on 11/02, 11/04, & 11/25. Was paid for 2/3. I don't know which one wasn't paid.






                                    175 pts
                                    3-QUESTION
                                    SBR TRIVIA WINNER12/02/2021


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                                  • Enikk
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 09-09-20
                                    • 1287

                                    #18
                                    FINAL Entry List:



                                    # Username(s)
                                    1 5mike5 50%/unlearn 50%
                                    2 adamelvis 50%/jmtbdj 50%
                                    3 ArunSh 50%/BarkingToad 50%
                                    4 beavis13 50%/INVEGA MAN 50%
                                    5 boscokid 50%/Krashman 50%
                                    6 CarolinaDaze 50% / harthebar 50%
                                    7 Daniel Espinosa 60%/fried cheese 40%
                                    8 Easy-Rider 66 50%/str 50%
                                    9 hhsilver 40%/yisman 60%
                                    10 hockey7251 50%/HossWilbur 50%
                                    11 JAKEPEAVY21 50%/milwaukee mike 50%
                                    12 jrgum3 50%/Vene1616 50%
                                    13 MalikHusam 50%/trytrytry 50%
                                    14 OVAKUL 50% / spider 50%
                                    15 playersonly69 50%/toddsclowns 50%
                                    16 Roger T. Bannon 50%/sportsfun 50%
                                    17 unde0087 50%/USCPHILLYGUY 50%
                                    18 5mike5
                                    19 A Quant
                                    20 adamelvis
                                    21 Akajason18
                                    22 ArunSh
                                    23 Blacke
                                    24 boscokid
                                    25 Cabo
                                    26 CarolinaDaze
                                    27 Chaz22
                                    28 chico2663
                                    29 cricketer
                                    30 d2bets
                                    31 daneblazer
                                    32 Daniel Espinosa
                                    33 danso
                                    34 DGG23
                                    35 dhristov211
                                    36 DiggityDaggityDo
                                    37 downsouth
                                    38 franklee168
                                    39 frankzig
                                    40 fried cheese
                                    41 gauchojake
                                    42 Getch13
                                    43 gunslinger572
                                    44 HedgeHog
                                    45 hockey7251
                                    46 HossWilbur
                                    47 Ian
                                    48 JacketFan81
                                    49 JAKEPEAVY21
                                    50 Jayvegas420
                                    51 jmtbdj
                                    52 jrgum3
                                    53 kidkonggolf
                                    54 Krashman
                                    55 LLXC
                                    56 LT Profits
                                    57 MalikHusam
                                    58 mike1234
                                    59 milwaukee mike
                                    60 mrpapageorgio
                                    61 Napishi Na
                                    62 Noles1992
                                    63 OVAKUL
                                    64 pabonaparte
                                    65 Pareto
                                    66 playersonly69
                                    67 Roger T. Bannon
                                    68 seaborneq
                                    69 sharkbite8
                                    70 spider
                                    71 sportsfun
                                    72 Stefan
                                    73 ThanosPttPls
                                    74 thetrinity
                                    75 tradeout
                                    76 trytrytry
                                    77 unlearn
                                    78 Vene1616
                                    79 Waterstpub87
                                    80 yisman

                                    More than one entry per member should never have been allowed unless spots NEEDed to be filled. Contest was posted on 12/07 and filled by 12/09. Contest starts next Friday. There was NO need to "fill" spots. If it is no big deal than a Mod/member can volunteer their extra slots. I will share it with Sammy.
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                                    • Enikk
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 09-09-20
                                      • 1287

                                      #19
                                      1250 pts sent to LT in advance for 1/2 a team.
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                                      • Optional
                                        Administrator
                                        • 06-10-10
                                        • 61445

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Enikk

                                        Just not the case here. If anything my posts and other posts should have been moved NOT deleted like they never exited just because they were not of the same opinion. The posts did not break any rules. Also, you could have sent a PM stating you deleted the posts.

                                        I have the same pro membership everyone else has. No pro member should be excluded from that contest if they choose to post up the 2500 points or be a part of a team with 2500 points. If this was a post up only prize pool and staff were not enrolled than yes the number of entries can be limited. Did you Optional, Spider, LT contribute the 10k or did the new owners/old owners contribute it for the pro members? If you Mods were the ones to contributing the 10k out of your own pocket than you have a right to do what ever you like.

                                        Like I have posted but had been deleted in original thread, I will volunteer my time to grade the contest if all Pro members are included as that could be the only reason to limit the number of pro entries unless the staff enrolled limited the amount of entries so they had a better chance to win which I do not see being the case as I had a Mod reach out to me prior to contest being filled kindly offering to split a team only to instead split another team with a pro member who also already had a team. Everyone should be limited to one entry whether a team/individual.
                                        Thanks for the feedback.

                                        But I don't agree with your directions about how I should do my job, and honestly, if you do not think power posting the same thing in 6 posts, three of them one after each other at end of the thread, is fine in your hosts promotion thread and something mods should not delete, then with all due respect you would not make a good moderator.
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                                        • Optional
                                          Administrator
                                          • 06-10-10
                                          • 61445

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Enikk
                                          1250 pts sent to LT in advance for 1/2 a team.
                                          Did he find you a spot?

                                          Lucky LT looked after you whilst I was off duty. I would have said definitely not for that negative nelly. Do not reward him for trying to attack our promotion and mods. ;-)
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                                          • Enikk
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 09-09-20
                                            • 1287

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Optional
                                            Did he find you a spot?

                                            Lucky LT looked after you whilst I was off duty. I would have said definitely not for that negative nelly. Do not reward him for trying to attack our promotion and mods. ;-)
                                            No LT did not. He has ignored everything. Shari said it is LTs gig and would speak no more on it. I requested a new owner contact to speak to and don't foresee that happening either. I sent the points to LT for Samsincharge and myself to split a team if a mod/member with extra team wanted to split as most know it is not right for members to be left out with all that has happened here at SBR and with staff having more than one entry as well. Points were returned by LT but nothing said.

                                            I know you guys got enough work and other shit to worry about but just know being left out and discriminated on is not cool and will be taken up with new ownership in the near future. Nothing is going to be accomplished posting in this thread anymore or it would have already been handled after contacting Shari. Thank-you Opti for responding to member's posts whether it is what we want to hear or not.
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                                            • Optional
                                              Administrator
                                              • 06-10-10
                                              • 61445

                                              #23
                                              Geez Enikk.

                                              Go use that energy to change the world or something.

                                              It was announced late, same rules from every year were copy/pasted, it is done and it is what it is for this year.

                                              I saw in the thread that you posted looking for a partner, so you did have time to enter, and you did not have enough points to.

                                              Disappointed is fine, but time to get over it. Feedback may contribute to changes next year but that will be up to LT Profits. So Shari is right about speaking to him.
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                                              • Optional
                                                Administrator
                                                • 06-10-10
                                                • 61445

                                                #24
                                                There will be another nice cash contest on soon too btw.

                                                March Madness I think is locked in. Maybe something else between Bowls and Madness too.
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                                                • LT Profits
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 10-27-06
                                                  • 90963

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Enikk
                                                  1250 pts sent to LT in advance for 1/2 a team.
                                                  Which I refunded as soon as I saw. Contest is closed, end of story. And I don't know what is meant by all Pros should have equal chance, they DID all have chance before contest filled.
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                                                  • LT Profits
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 10-27-06
                                                    • 90963

                                                    #26
                                                    And I already said that as long as contest is approved soon enough to post week BEFORE Selection Sunday next year, it will be full entries only (no teams) for first 7 days and then teams allowed if we don't hit 80. We could not wait full week this year because contest was just announced Tuesday and we are posting lines on Monday, less than a week later.
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                                                    • JAKEPEAVY21
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                                                      • 03-11-11
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Enikk
                                                      Not everyone was given an equal opportunity. Members were owed and still are owned points from early last month. LT posted a thread asking who was still owed and how much. I for one responded. Specifically mentioning this contest. My post along with others were ignored. Only some were addressed. We had to find alternate ways of finding points. Some borrowed and some had enough to split. I am sure Sammy will vouge for me that I PMed him to share a spot as well as Spider kindly PMed me offering to share but he chose to go with another member who already had a spot as well because it was one of the very last spots left and he didn't have time to wait for my confirmation email that I sent back.

                                                      That is all besides the point though. If corporate cash is up for grabs for pro members only than every pro member should have an equal opportunity to have an entry as long as their points are sent and an entry is posted before deadline.

                                                      I am not whinning although it may sound that way. I am not a mooch looking for a freebie. I would have joined this if it was a cash contest. I am a pro member who has deposited probably over 100k alone this past year to this sites sponsors(I am sure the Mods here can vouge for that as well). Degenerates like me are why companies can offer contests like this and EVERYONE should be included. 12-07-21 05:52 PM
                                                      Enikk

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                                                      Originally Posted by Enikk
                                                      I won on 11/02, 11/04, & 11/25. Was paid for 2/3. I don't know which one wasn't paid.



                                                      Wasn't paid for 12/02 as well. So missing (2) 175 point winners still in total. Normally wouldn't care as normally give pts away or blow in casino but when there are contests like the Bowl contest being offered that can only be played with points and not allowed to enter with cash it kinda svcks. Hopefully in future we can have cash contests as well.







                                                      • 12-02-21 05:14 PM
                                                        Enikk

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                                                        I won on 11/02, 11/04, & 11/25. Was paid for 2/3. I don't know which one wasn't paid.






                                                        175 pts
                                                        3-QUESTION
                                                        SBR TRIVIA WINNER12/02/2021


                                                      Enikk, I have never had an issue with you and we have had pleasant interactions on the forum and the poker table here at SBR. In this case, I disagree with you. You could have got a loan. Every SBR PRO had the opportunity to grab a spot or a portion of one. Not really sure that whining after the fact will accomplish much. Maybe they will expand the field next year or limit to 1 team max per person.
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                                                      • LT Profits
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 10-27-06
                                                        • 90963

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                                                        Enikk, I have never had an issue with you and we have had pleasant interactions on the forum and the poker table here at SBR. In this case, I disagree with you. You could have got a loan. Every SBR PRO had the opportunity to grab a spot or a portion of one. Not really sure that whining after the fact will accomplish much. Maybe they will expand the field next year or limit to 1 team max per person.
                                                        See Post 26
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                                                        • JAKEPEAVY21
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                                                          • 03-11-11
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by LT Profits
                                                          And I already said that as long as contest is approved soon enough to post week BEFORE Selection Sunday next year, it will be full entries only (no teams) for first 7 days and then teams allowed if we don't hit 80. We could not wait full week this year because contest was just announced Tuesday and we are posting lines on Monday, less than a week later.
                                                          Originally posted by LT Profits
                                                          See Post 26
                                                          That sounds fair.
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                                                          • pavyracer
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 04-12-07
                                                            • 82775

                                                            #30
                                                            What a clusterfukk! Things are going downhill in a hurry. Mods on a power struggle on who to delete most posts to impress the new owners.
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                                                            • Enikk
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 09-09-20
                                                              • 1287

                                                              #31
                                                              Well Jake I have never had an issue with anyone either and no one with me. I let the Mods know continuing to post in this thread does nothing for SBR and I am all about SBR continuing to be the best forum but that I would be taking up the issue when the new owners make their presence so it doesn't happen to anyone else. You would feel different if my situation happened to you. Here is just ONE example that I was not going to post but will since I am being seen in a negative way which is undeserving:

                                                              You would be pissed off to when you think a Mod is kind enough to split with you only to than 2.5 hours later say "sorry, contest filled out" and you see he split with another poster taking one of the last spots who already has a slot. Keep in mind he can only have 1.5 entries total. He could of gave that half a slot to me and Sammy. Dick move but besides the point. Every member should have an entry if they want one. You know there is a back log of points owed and specifically mentioning points are needed for this contest a week prior to contest being posted. I am not the only one but am the only one speaking out. Will be my last post on issue and will take up with new owners. If this is a US owned new Company they have rules to follow.
                                                              12-09-21 04:19 PM
                                                              spider

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                                                              Re: bowl contest


                                                              Originally Posted by Enikk

                                                              Originally Posted by spider
                                                              I'll put up the entry fee, we'll go 50/50, you'll pay back 1250 whenever you can, and you'll make all the picks.
                                                              let me know.



                                                              Sounds great. I messaged SamsNcharge a few hours ago but never heard back. Thank-you Spider!!



                                                              sorry, contest filled out.







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                                                              • JAKEPEAVY21
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                                                                • 03-11-11
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Enikk
                                                                Well Jake I have never had an issue with anyone either and no one with me. I let the Mods know continuing to post in this thread does nothing for SBR and I am all about SBR continuing to be the best forum but that I would be taking up the issue when the new owners make their presence so it doesn't happen to anyone else. You would feel different if my situation happened to you. Here is just ONE example that I was not going to post but will since I am being seen in a negative way which is undeserving:

                                                                You would be pissed off to when you think a Mod is kind enough to split with you only to than 2.5 hours later say "sorry, contest filled out" and you see he split with another poster taking one of the last spots who already has a slot. Keep in mind he can only have 1.5 entries total. He could of gave that half a slot to me and Sammy. Dick move but besides the point. Every member should have an entry if they want one. You know there is a back log of points owed and specifically mentioning points are needed for this contest a week prior to contest being posted. I am not the only one but am the only one speaking out. Will be my last post on issue and will take up with new owners. If this is a US owned new Company they have rules to follow.
                                                                12-09-21 04:19 PM
                                                                spider

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                                                                Re: bowl contest


                                                                Originally Posted by Enikk

                                                                Originally Posted by spider
                                                                I'll put up the entry fee, we'll go 50/50, you'll pay back 1250 whenever you can, and you'll make all the picks.
                                                                let me know.



                                                                Sounds great. I messaged SamsNcharge a few hours ago but never heard back. Thank-you Spider!!



                                                                sorry, contest filled out.







                                                                Had I missed out, I wouldn't complain. The thread was posted for everyone to see so the opportunity was there. I would've taken it on the chin and moved on but everyone reacts to things differently. I believe there was another thread a week or 2 prior where LT stated that it was most likely on the horizon. The events in your second paragraph would have pissed me off though.
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