Maybe they want to check out the nuclear silos that would immediately turn their country into a nuclear wasteland till the end of earth.
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It might be more likely that China will look at what has happened in Vietnam, Korea, Somalia, Iraq, Syria & Afghanistan.
Can you name the wars where the enemy has been turned into the wasteland you think would scare a country with bigger and longer range nukes than USA?
Remind me of any conflict where the USA even prevailed during your or my lifetime?
I think during the invasion of Panama and the carpet bombing of suburbs of Panama City and hiding the 1000's of murdered civilians in mass graves could be your only possible answer.
I like your patriotism, but I wonder if you have been given a false sense of security. The USA aint that bad or unbeatable according to history..Comment -
Right. But in the cases of Hong Kong and Tibet, those areas have never had formal diplomatic alliances with other countries and have always been Chinese territories - Taiwan always had formal diplomatic alliances with other countries because they were the side of the Chinese civil war that the Western nations bet on and backed to win but ended up losing..
So while you're right about China can't be trusted, China will be more careful with Taiwan because of america and only because of america. China will not risk war for insignificant Taiwan because risking war does not help China gain more control/credibility/allies/etc in their region - while simply bullying Taiwan with saber rattling and covert operations does.Comment -
I'm thinking has to be either the Chinese or Indian governments since they have most people to govern and control in world - governing is best racket ever, that's why it's the most fought over racket worldwide in all history, wars fought over who gets all the resources and protection fees(taxes) and control.Comment -
China retreats from 50-year pledge of Hong Kong autonomy
BEIJING -- China passed national security legislation governing Hong Kong on Tuesday, jeopardizing the "one country, two systems" policy that was supposed to last another 27 years.
The U.K. took possession of Hong Kong Island and Kowloon Peninsula to the north as spoils of the Opium Wars against China's Qing dynasty in the 19th century. Britain later took out a 99-year lease on the New Territories -- a third portion of the Hong Kong region -- which was due to expire in 1997.
Britain agreed to relinquish Hong Kong to China when the New Territories lease expired in 1997. Thatcher visited China again in 1984 for the signing ceremony of the joint declaration. The 50-year promise was included in the text.
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Tibet, same story except tibet was independent prior to china's encroachment.
China has even fukked russia over many times.
Russia Blasts China Over Unauthorized Copying Of Russian Military Hardware
Russia has been China’s biggest arms supplier between 2014 and 2018, accounting for 70% of Beijing’s arms imports but rampant Chinese reverse-engineering Russian military hardware has become a major concern for Moscow.Rostec chief accused China of copying everything from aircraft engines, Sukhoi planes, deck jets, air defence systems, portable air defence missiles, and analogues of the Pantsir medium-range surface-to-air systems.Even Russia’s most advanced weaponry is not off-limits. Russia sold six of its S-400 anti-aircraft systems and 24 of its Su-35 fighter jets to China in 2015 for $5 billion.Despite Moscow’s fury over Beijing’s stealing of sensitive technology, it is unlikely to cut back arms sales to China according to experts. During the 1990s, China obtained-27 fighter jets and S-300 missile systems from Russia and later developed its own J-11 fighter jet and HQ-9 surface-to-air missiles by reverse-engineering Russian designs.Russia adopted various measures to check the practice. For example, it insisted that China purchase arms in bulk instead of buying just a few samples — a sign that the arms were likely to be reverse-engineered. Russia also pressed for assurances against theft in its contracts, and even tried to obtain royalties from Chinese copies of Russian arms.But Kozyulin admitted that the measures were far from effective. “We tried combating this problem in a variety of ways, but without much success,” he said.
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I don't deny any of that information you posted, just saying that it not the same situation - Taiwan and american are military allies 2 independent countries that have fought wars together, Hong Kong and Tibet have never had any formal alliances with any other countries much less fought wars with other allies.China retreats from 50-year pledge of Hong Kong autonomy
BEIJING -- China passed national security legislation governing Hong Kong on Tuesday, jeopardizing the "one country, two systems" policy that was supposed to last another 27 years.
The U.K. took possession of Hong Kong Island and Kowloon Peninsula to the north as spoils of the Opium Wars against China's Qing dynasty in the 19th century. Britain later took out a 99-year lease on the New Territories -- a third portion of the Hong Kong region -- which was due to expire in 1997.
Britain agreed to relinquish Hong Kong to China when the New Territories lease expired in 1997. Thatcher visited China again in 1984 for the signing ceremony of the joint declaration. The 50-year promise was included in the text.
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Tibet, same story except tibet was independent prior to china's encroachment.
China has even fukked russia over many times.
Russia Blasts China Over Unauthorized Copying Of Russian Military Hardware
Russia has been China’s biggest arms supplier between 2014 and 2018, accounting for 70% of Beijing’s arms imports but rampant Chinese reverse-engineering Russian military hardware has become a major concern for Moscow.Rostec chief accused China of copying everything from aircraft engines, Sukhoi planes, deck jets, air defence systems, portable air defence missiles, and analogues of the Pantsir medium-range surface-to-air systems.Even Russia’s most advanced weaponry is not off-limits. Russia sold six of its S-400 anti-aircraft systems and 24 of its Su-35 fighter jets to China in 2015 for $5 billion.Despite Moscow’s fury over Beijing’s stealing of sensitive technology, it is unlikely to cut back arms sales to China according to experts. During the 1990s, China obtained-27 fighter jets and S-300 missile systems from Russia and later developed its own J-11 fighter jet and HQ-9 surface-to-air missiles by reverse-engineering Russian designs.Russia adopted various measures to check the practice. For example, it insisted that China purchase arms in bulk instead of buying just a few samples — a sign that the arms were likely to be reverse-engineered. Russia also pressed for assurances against theft in its contracts, and even tried to obtain royalties from Chinese copies of Russian arms.But Kozyulin admitted that the measures were far from effective. “We tried combating this problem in a variety of ways, but without much success,” he said.
https://eurasiantimes.com/furious-ru...tary-hardware/
It is not disputed that Hong Kong is Chinese territory, that is why China can get away with doing whatever they want they overly and covertly.
While Taiwan is not viewed as Chinese territory by the Western countries, they are an independent country with diplomatic status - Hong Kong and Tibet don't have any diplomatic status much less independent status.
The agreement that China made to keep Hong Kong autonomous for 50 years is an international binding agreement - but the agreement does not specify what the penalties would be if China reneged.
It's the same thing as the Paris accords that all these countries sign into promising to reduce emissions - when countries fail to do so nothing happens, just another broken political promise. Hong Kong is like this.
Taiwan is not like Hong Kong, Taiwan military alliances and made during wartime specify joint efforts against China. It's like NATO allies against Russia. Hong Kong has no allies.
That all being said, if there ever a time when China believed it could take Taiwan back without risking war with the West - of course they will do it, just like China does whatever they want they don't honour agreements.
It's easy for the West to turn it's back on Hong Kong and Tibet, the excuse is that they are not formal allies - but Taiwan is the most formal of allies there is.
Just to sum it up - military allies getting invaded are war worthy, but broken promises are not war worthy.Comment -
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