Let's Speak Frankly about Afghanistan

[topgame85]

American Political Agendas Aside-

The Afghans who "aided" us for years, by and large, are not good people, our friends, or lovers of Democracy. They are Gamblers. That lost. They bet their lives on the big favorite. The USA. We drew to a stalemate and bailed. Like a 3-way line in Soccer, ties lose.

Despite their losing wager, we offered a Free Bet. They could throw another dart for their future. Stand and Fight.

Now we need to take in 90,000 cowards that left behind their wives, children and country despite being armed to the teeth with Billions in training and American arms, with 4-1 the numbers of cave dwelling goat fyckers armed only with Old ass AKs and IEDS?

All four administrations are pathetic for how this was handled, but noone moreso than the Afghan people. Why do we owe them? We gave them everything and they threw it away. When someone shows you who they are, believe them. Why would we bring them here knowing they won't stasnd and die for their own families and country?

[USCPHILLYGUY]

Gamer. What’s the play tonight

[topgame85]

Gamer. What’s the play tonight

Toronto FC ov 1.5 Goals +160 tonight. Fire away.

Sprinkle over 2.5 +500 also.

[Fishhead]

Well said Gamer

[terpkeg]

Personally Ill try to stay away from assumptions and generalizations. I'm sure situation was very complex if you were directly affected by the politics there. What was our true purpose of for being there? Creating democracy seems like b.s. to me. Having a presence in the area? Already do to a degree as can launch from Qater. Rooting out bad guys? Seems disingenuous. Taking resources? Seems plausible but is there any evidence of this? And, why would we leave billions of dollars of equipment, weapons and tech there? Enrich "private" contractors? Seems plausible.

Can anyone actually make sense of this?

On a side note, I wouldn't call waring against hostile takeover of existing government a free play.

[SamsNCharge99]

Sounds like a bad beat

[franklee168]

Thanks for shedding some light here. The only thing I know about Afganistan is that about 40 years ago, we use to call them afgan booty scratchers. Not sure why though.

[topgame85]

Personally Ill try to stay away from assumptions and generalizations. I'm sure situation was very complex if you were directly affected by the politics there. What was our true purpose of for being there? Creating democracy seems like b.s. to me. Having a presence in the area? Already do to a degree as can launch from Qater. Rooting out bad guys? Seems disingenuous. Taking resources? Seems plausible but is there any evidence of this? And, why would we leave billions of dollars of equipment, weapons and tech there? Enrich "private" contractors? Seems plausible.

Can anyone actually make sense of this?

On a side note, I wouldn't call waring against hostile takeover of existing government a free play.

I agree in principal. Osama wadn't even in country. We got him in Pakistan.

Arms dealers and mineral guys got rich. Lots of Opium/Heroin dealers also. No coincidence the Opiate pandemic took place in the past decade. Flooded in from Afghanistan.

At the same time if you are any sort of a man you defend your family and country to the death. They ran away from the Taliban despite numbers, superior training and weaponry.

[topgame85]

Sounds like a bad beat

Indeed. Although our recent Past Performances should have shown we weren't deserving of the huge favoritism we demanded.

[pimike]

One important thing people are forgetting.

Biden took away the air defense before getting people out.

Without that protection they were sitting ducks.

[topgame85]

One important thing people are forgetting.

Biden took away the air defense before getting people out.

Without that protection they were sitting ducks.

The Taliban does (did) not have air capabilities.

Like I said, American Political Agendas Aside.

Biden is not without blame for the Withdrawal, but who is to blame for the results? Afghan people and previous administrations on both sides.

[JIBBBY]

I'll speak frankly..

If you turn on the main stream news media like CNN and MSNBC right now all they are covering mostly is the Covid booster shots that are coming out.. Nothing on Afghan and Americans stranded.

Fake news media providing cover now for the Biden administration complete fail crisis in Afghan. Damage control. Joe Biden in hiding now also.

Shameful reporting.

[Fishhead]

One important thing people are forgetting.

Biden took away the air defense before getting people out.

Without that protection they were sitting ducks.

Biden needs to retire or be outed in some fashion.......I think one of the other will happen by this time next year.

[carolinakid]

Biden is not the sharpest tool in the drawer

[jjgold]

Biggest military disaster of all times

Biden really fukked up

Get people out 1st then withdraw

He is getting crucified everywhere and did not listen to Generals

[carolinakid]

^^^^^ ,if Trump did this is would be going 24 to 7 on the fake media outlets

[topgame85]

I'll speak frankly..

If you turn on the main stream news media like CNN and MSNBC right now all they are covering mostly is the Covid booster shots that are coming out.. Nothing on Afghan and Americans stranded.

Fake news media providing cover now for the Biden administration complete fail crisis in Afghan. Damage control. Joe Biden in hiding now also.

Shameful reporting.

The media has been more critical of Biden than I would have expected. Should it receive more coverage? Yes. Withdrawal is embarassing and falls on current admin. Execution matters.

That said Trump set Withdrawal date, when he was almost certainly going to lose the election, during the first 6 months of the next administration. He had 4 years to pull us out and did not. Timing was not a coincidence. His advisors were smarter than Biden's. They saw this coming and punted.

If a single American dies at enemy hands at this point and Biden does not level Kabul he should resign.

It is messy, but if the end result is all Americans make it out alive, much better result than pretending COVID is a hoax.

[JIBBBY]

Biggest military disaster of all times

Biden really fukked up

Get people out 1st then withdraw

He is getting crucified everywhere and did not listen to Generals

JJ speaking the truth!!!

[Roger T. Bannon]

Old guys and Afghanistan. This one is going down harder than Iraq. Total humiliation.

[TheGoldenGoose]

Too many Armchair Generals here at SBR.

You are not privy to discussions Biden had with the joint chiefs of staff.

Biden is acting on the advice of the military, the CIA, covert operations, and other advisors.

You Armchair Generals make it sound like Biden acted alone as a senile President.

Absolutely NOT TRUE. Stop trying to tell everybody you are more knowledgeable than the experts.

[vitterd]

^^^^^ ,if Trump did this is would be going 24 to 7 on the fake media outlets

Trump did do this.

[slayer14]

Tailaban look very dangerous

[NrmlCurvSurfr]

Too many Armchair Generals here at SBR.

You are not privy to discussions Biden had with the joint chiefs of staff.

Biden is acting on the advice of the military, the CIA, covert operations, and other advisors.

You Armchair Generals make it sound like Biden acted alone as a senile President.

Absolutely NOT TRUE. Stop trying to tell everybody you are more knowledgeable than the experts.

Bet those meetings were entertaining..lol

[masr]

Drop a couple nukes on Afghanistan would solve a big problem.
Those people are useless

[masr]

VP Cheney profited the most as a major stakeholder in Halliburton.

[slewfan]

Too many Armchair Generals here at SBR.

You are not privy to discussions Biden had with the joint chiefs of staff.

Biden is acting on the advice of the military, the CIA, covert operations, and other advisors.

You Armchair Generals make it sound like Biden acted alone as a senile President.

Absolutely NOT TRUE. Stop trying to tell everybody you are more knowledgeable than the experts.

Biden is the commander in chief. It is all his fault.. Advisors or not.

[jackpot269]

American Political Agendas Aside-

The Afghans who "aided" us for years, by and large, are not good people, our friends, or lovers of Democracy. They are Gamblers. That lost. They bet their lives on the big favorite. The USA. We drew to a stalemate and bailed. Like a 3-way line in Soccer, ties lose.

Despite their losing wager, we offered a Free Bet. They could throw another dart for their future. Stand and Fight.

Now we need to take in 90,000 cowards that left behind their wives, children and country despite being armed to the teeth with Billions in training and American arms, with 4-1 the numbers of cave dwelling goat fyckers armed only with Old ass AKs and IEDS?

All four administrations are pathetic for how this was handled, but noone moreso than the Afghan people. Why do we owe them? We gave them everything and they threw it away. When someone shows you who they are, believe them. Why would we bring them here knowing they won't stasnd and die for their own families and country?

Thank you for trying to post something about an important issue without "the other side is always wrong shit" and with blame going where it most likely should be!! Plenty of blame to go around. You made way to much sense!! For posters who are never wrong!! HOW LONG DID THAT LAST

[MinnesotaFats]

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This on the heels of the story they tried to disband Pompeos evacuation plan, couldn't, but subsequently ignored it.

The exact scenario Trump planned for played out, and Biden ignored Trumps plan. Story posted in other forum topic

[pimike]

Biden is the commander in chief. It is all his fault.. Advisors or not.

He ignored advice

He thought he knew best

[pimike]

Trump did do this.

No

Wake up

Biden called the shot

[MinnesotaFats]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-admin-dismantled-ccr-kabul

Here's Biden literally ignoring Trump, and trying to dismantle the evacuation plan lol

Can't make this up...it's the smoking gun

[gauchojake]

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This on the heels of the story they tried to disband Pompeos evacuation plan, couldn't, but subsequently ignored it.

The exact scenario Trump planned for played out, and Biden ignored Trumps plan. Story posted in other forum topic

kind of like the pandemic plan obama left trump

point being that these guys want to do things their own way even if it's wrong

[MinnesotaFats]

kind of like the pandemic plan obama left trump

point being that these guys want to do things their own way even if it's wrong

The President shut the borders day of, despite fighting off a ridiculous impeachment, and was fought tooth & nail in doing so, by Pelosi & the Democrats.

Absent that, the President doesn't have any other power other than to nationalize businesses...which he did to mfg those ventilators.

He got financial incentives in place to create the silver bullet vaxx the libs love so much, and did so in record time.

If Obama took the pandemic seriously, he sure as fukk wouldn't be throwing a birthday bash, w no masks, flying people in from all parts of the country....

Obama is not a serious man.

[masr]

Biden is not the sharpest tool in the drawer

Not the sharpest crayon in the box, but it colors..
In his case like chit

[paulll]

The fact that the top media ignore this situation proves once again that it is really important.