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  • Sanity Check
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    FDA adds heart risk warning to mRNA vaccines
    The FDA on Wednesday said it will add a warning about rare cases of heart inflammation in teens and young adults to fact sheets for the Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna COVID-19 vaccines – but that the benefits greatly outweigh the risks - and are still recommending the vaccine for all Americans over 12 years old.

    CDC advisory groups found the risk of the heart condition in adolescents and young adults is likely linked to the mRNA vaccines… And that the risk is notably higher after the second dose and in males.

    But in a Wednesday meeting, advisors said the benefits of the mRNA vaccines appeared to clearly outweigh the risk.




    The FDA on Wednesday said it will add a warning about rare cases of heart inflammation in teens and young adults to fact sheets for the Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna COVID-19 vaccines – but that the benefits greatly outweigh the risks - and are still recommending the vaccine for all Americans over 12 years old.CDC advisory groups found the risk of the heart condition in adolescents and young adults is likely linked to the mRNA vaccines… And that the risk is notably higher after the second dose and in males.Doctors and hospitals have been warned by the CDC to watch for symptoms of myocarditis or pericarditis, and the FDA warning will further raise awareness.But in a Wednesday meeting, advisors said the benefits of the mRNA vaccines appeared to clearly outweigh the risk.In a separate report, the CDC said that the patients with heart inflammation following vaccination generally recover from the symptoms and do well.The cases are extremely rare. Data from the CDC suggests heart inflammation is seen at a rate of about 13 cases per million in the three weeks after the second shot in 12- to 39-year-olds. HHS - along with leading U.S. doctors groups and public health officials - issued a statement urging all eligible Americans to still get vaccinated.
  • The Kraken
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    Not a big deal at all

    This happens to a super low % of people

    And those it does happen to do extremely well

    Myocarditis is rarely fatal and easily treated, almost always supportive care in nature ie a small amount of IV fluids, some Ibuprofen and ekg monitoring for a day or two

    In addition, and I've said this before, all vaccines can cause myocarditis. As do viruses (not a coincidence). So you're just as likely to get it from the flu vaccine, or more likely to get it after getting covid or the flu.
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    • Sanity Check
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      #3
      Originally posted by The Kraken
      Not a big deal at all

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      MARVELOUS MARVIN HAGLER FORMER CHAMP DEAD AT 66


      On March 13, 2021, the 66-year-old Hagler died after suffering severe chest pains and shortness of breath, which are typical signs of a heart attack. His wife, Kay Hagler, wrote on Facebook, “I am sorry to make a very sad announcement. Today unfortunately my beloved husband Marvelous Marvin passed away unexpectedly at his home here in New Hampshire.” However, his good friend and fellow boxing champion, Tommy Hearns, told reporters that Hagler was “in the ICU fighting after-effects of the vaccine.” Anti-vaxxers immediately jumped on this quote and claimed that Hagler died from COVID-19 vaccine side effects, with no evidence whatsoever.






      MLB Legend Hank Aaron’s Cause of Death at 86 Aired by Sources


      Also based on a report of a person with knowledge, Aaron died following suffering a massive stroke. However, the person asked for anonymity due to the sensitivity of the matter.


      https://usdaynews.com/celebrities/ha...n-death-cause/





      "No big deal."

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      • The Kraken
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        #4
        Thats it???

        Thats all you got?

        A person died after getting the vaccine and it might have been a result of the vaccine lololol

        As I said, no big deal
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        • Sanity Check
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          #5
          Black Conspiracy Theories 101: HIV/AIDS Was Created To Extinguish Blacks



          South African President Thabo Mbeki once accused the U.S. government of manufacturing the disease in their military labs and world-renowned Kenyan ecologist, Nobel Peace Prize winner Dr. Wangari Maathai used her international spotlight to give credence to the conspiracy theory about the creation of HIV/AIDS. After accepting her prestigious honor, the first African female Nobel laureate used her acceptance platform to state, that the deadly virus was created as a biological weapon by the west to wipe out Africans:

          “AIDS is not a curse from God to Africans or the Black people. It is a tool to control them designed by some evil-minded scientists, ” according to Maathai.


          The HIV/AIDS epidemic was first reported by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) back in 1981.





          "No big deal."

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          • gauchojake
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            I had it. It went away. I was crushing cardio workouts despite the palpations.
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            • edawg
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              Honestly don't know which one is worse the parents that are ignorant enough to let 12-17 year olds get jabbed or that there are 12-17 year olds wandering around with their parents dummy genetics. Maybe if they get sterilized from the jab it is a blessing in disguise. All joking aside it is sick that there is a sudden push to jab 12-17 year olds gee I wonder why that would be 🤔
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              • hehfest
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                • d2bets
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                  Bullshit number, but...Is that supposed to be an argument against it? Isn't that a net save?
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                  • vivablu
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by The Kraken
                    Thats it???

                    Thats all you got?

                    A person died after getting the vaccine and it might have been a result of the vaccine lololol

                    As I said, no big deal
                    They did that 10000x with corona virus. person dies and its corona. If you know the details of how pcr test works and what ct threshold is, you will know that this virus was overblown by doing tests at high cycle thresholds. If they handled it just like any other bad flu season, the out come would have been similar to a bad flu season.
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                    • The Kraken
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by vivablu
                      They did that 10000x with corona virus. person dies and its corona. If you know the details of how pcr test works and what ct threshold is, you will know that this virus was overblown by doing tests at high cycle thresholds. If they handled it just like any other bad flu season, the out come would have been similar to a bad flu season.
                      Sounds like you've read an article AND watched a Youtube video

                      We're extremely fortunate to have someone with so much knowledge posting here. Eagerly awaiting your future contributions
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                      • d2bets
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by vivablu
                        They did that 10000x with corona virus. person dies and its corona. If you know the details of how pcr test works and what ct threshold is, you will know that this virus was overblown by doing tests at high cycle thresholds. If they handled it just like any other bad flu season, the out come would have been similar to a bad flu season.
                        Well then how come excess deaths in the US was far far worse than any bad flu season ever? You can very easily see the death spikes following increases in cases, in waves. Really not difficult to put 2 and 2 together.
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                        • Sanity Check
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by vivablu
                          They did that 10000x with corona virus. person dies and its corona. If you know the details of how pcr test works and what ct threshold is, you will know that this virus was overblown by doing tests at high cycle thresholds. If they handled it just like any other bad flu season, the out come would have been similar to a bad flu season.

                          The U.S. Has Hit 600,000 COVID Deaths, More Than Any Other Country


                          June 15, 2021



                          https://www.npr.org/sections/coronav...-other-country



                          600,000.

                          Where have I seen that number before...










                          COVID's potential for exponential growth and spread were its biggest risk factors.

                          For whatever reason those fears don't appear to have materialized.


                          ...
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                          • Sanity Check
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Sanity Check
                            COVID's potential for exponential growth and spread were its biggest risk factors.
                            ...

                            That's inaccurate btw.

                            Initially it was claimed COVID's mortality rate was between 1% and 3%.

                            If that was true, it would inflict millions of casualties in the united states.

                            Later the mortality rate was revised to a far lower number.

                            Posting half asleep, half awake zzzzzzz
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                            • bitcoinLuke
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by The Kraken
                              Not a big deal at all

                              This happens to a super low % of people

                              And those it does happen to do extremely well

                              Myocarditis is rarely fatal and easily treated, almost always supportive care in nature ie a small amount of IV fluids, some Ibuprofen and ekg monitoring for a day or two

                              In addition, and I've said this before, all vaccines can cause myocarditis. As do viruses (not a coincidence). So you're just as likely to get it from the flu vaccine, or more likely to get it after getting covid or the flu.
                              People say "no big deal" because it didnt happen to them, but if your child died, you wouldnt be saying that
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                              • The Kraken
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by bitcoinLuke
                                People say "no big deal" because it didnt happen to them, but if your child died, you wouldnt be saying that
                                Ohhh good point, I hadn't considered that

                                Mega deal now for the next kid that dies from the vaccine, which will also be the first

                                Everyone with the internet is now a cardiologist, virologist, philosopher, broke dikk financial guru, you name it
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                                • Sanity Check
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                                  #17



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                                  • Demonata
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Sanity Check
                                    The FDA on Wednesday said it will add a warning about rare cases of heart inflammation in teens and young adults to fact sheets for the Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna COVID-19 vaccines – but that the benefits greatly outweigh the risks - and are still recommending the vaccine for all Americans over 12 years old.

                                    CDC advisory groups found the risk of the heart condition in adolescents and young adults is likely linked to the mRNA vaccines… And that the risk is notably higher after the second dose and in males.

                                    But in a Wednesday meeting, advisors said the benefits of the mRNA vaccines appeared to clearly outweigh the risk.




                                    https://news.yahoo.com/fda-add-heart...230724261.html
                                    The democrats wont care what side effects there are.
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                                    • d2bets
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Sanity Check



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                                      Bullshit. Let's see that actual data.
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                                      • d2bets
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Demonata
                                        The democrats wont care what side effects there are.
                                        And what is that side effect is greater with covid.

                                        As with anything, weight the risks and benefits.
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                                        • Demonata
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by d2bets
                                          And what is that side effect is greater with covid.

                                          As with anything, weight the risks and benefits.

                                          If you had covid already you don't have to be worried about covid, especially if you are not obese and have no underlying illnesses.
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                                          • Auto Donk
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                                            #22
                                            guns don't kill people, mrna experimental gene modification therapies kill people.....
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                                            • nyplayer33
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                                              No vaccine for me boomm
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                                              • The Kraken
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Sanity Check
                                                That's inaccurate btw.

                                                Initially it was claimed COVID's mortality rate was between 1% and 3%.

                                                If that was true, it would inflict millions of casualties in the united states.

                                                Later the mortality rate was revised to a far lower number.

                                                Posting half asleep, half awake zzzzzzz
                                                True. There were predictions but they were just that.

                                                As the picture became more clear, they predictions were lowered and now we know we've had roughly 600,000 deaths from Covid

                                                And 0 from the vaccine
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                                                • Demonata
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by The Kraken
                                                  True. There were predictions but they were just that.

                                                  As the picture became more clear, they predictions were lowered and now we know we've had roughly 600,000 deaths from Covid

                                                  And 0 from the vaccine
                                                  The unhealthy and the ones that would have died by the flu anyway with the underlying health conditions or just of old age. They should have lived healthier.
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                                                  • The Kraken
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Demonata
                                                    The unhealthy and the ones that would have died by the flu anyway with the underlying health conditions or just of old age. They should have lived healthier.
                                                    I know you're too dumb and ignorant to have a real discussion with, so Im not responding to yoy

                                                    But to anyone else reading this, flu kills between 10000-20000/ year, Covid killed >500,000 in a year
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by The Kraken
                                                      I know you're too dumb and ignorant to have a real discussion with, so Im not responding to yoy

                                                      But to anyone else reading this, flu kills between 10000-20000/ year, Covid killed >500,000 in a year
                                                      You are just a liberal sheep that understands only the news. Telling someone you are not going to respond to them is responding to them especially if you quote it. Enjoy your liberalism disease Snowflake. You are obviously a Democrat.
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                                                      • Sanity Check
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by d2bets
                                                        Bullshit. Let's see that actual data.
                                                        AMailOnline headline on 13June read: “Study shows 29% of the 42 people who have died after catching the new strain had BOTH vaccinations.” In Public Health England’s technical briefing on 25 June, that figure had risen to 43% (50 of 117), with the majority (60%) having received at least one dose.

                                                        It could sound worrying that the majority of people dying in England with the now-dominant Delta (B.1.617.2) variant have been vaccinated. Does this mean the vaccines are ineffective? Far from it, it’s what we would expect from an effective but imperfect vaccine, a risk profile that varies hugely by age and the way the vaccines have been rolled out.

                                                        Consider the hypothetical world where absolutely everyone had received a less than perfect vaccine. Although the death rate would be low, everyone who died would have been fully vaccinated.

                                                        The vaccines are not perfect. PHE estimates two-dose effectiveness against hospital admission with the Delta infections at around 94%. We can perhaps assume there is at least 95% protection against Covid-19 death, which means the lethal risk is reduced to less than a twentieth of its usual value.

                                                        But the risk of dying from Covid-19 is extraordinarily dependent on age: it halves for each six to seven year age gap. This means that someone aged 80 who is fully vaccinated essentially takes on the risk of an unvaccinated person of around 50 – much lower, but still not nothing, and so we can expect some deaths.

                                                        The PHE report also reveals that nearly a third of deaths from the Delta variant are of unvaccinated people over 50, which may be surprising given high vaccine coverage; for example, OpenSAFELY estimates more than 93% among the 65-69s. But there are lower rates in deprived areas and for some ethnicities and communities with limited coverage will continue to experience more than their fair share of loss.

                                                        Coverage and effectiveness are important numbers for assessing vaccination programmes. It is better to look at cool analysis by analysts, rather than hot takes on social and other media.





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                                                        • The Kraken
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Demonata
                                                          You are just a liberal sheep that understands only the news. Telling someone you are not going to respond to them is responding to them especially if you quote it. Enjoy your liberalism disease Snowflake. You are obviously a Democrat.
                                                          I understand what I see everyday and its exactly the opposite of the lies you spew

                                                          I live this. I see it with my own eyes and have since day 1. Cared for some of the earliest known cases in the country.

                                                          You're a slave to whatever bullshit YT vids or radicalized articles you choose to read and believe.

                                                          I choose to believe what I see and it just so coincides with all the data you reject
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                                                          • edawg
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by The Kraken
                                                            I understand what I see everyday and its exactly the opposite of the lies you spew

                                                            I live this. I see it with my own eyes and have since day 1. Cared for some of the earliest known cases in the country.

                                                            You're a slave to whatever bullshit YT vids or radicalized articles you choose to read and believe.

                                                            I choose to believe what I see and it just so coincides with all the data you reject
                                                            Is that the same data that says 600k covid deaths and 0 from the jab? You gotta make your bullshit a little more convincing guy.
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                                                            • b1slickguy
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                                                              #31
                                                              Circa 2027:

                                                              "If you or a loved one received the Moderna, Pfizer or Johnson & Johnson vaccine in the United States, you may be entitled to compensation..."
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                                                              • d2bets
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by b1slickguy
                                                                Circa 2027:

                                                                "If you or a loved one received the Moderna, Pfizer or Johnson & Johnson vaccine in the United States, you may be entitled to compensation..."
                                                                That will be almost everyone. So how exactly does that work?
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                                                                • Demonata
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by The Kraken
                                                                  I understand what I see everyday and its exactly the opposite of the lies you spew

                                                                  I live this. I see it with my own eyes and have since day 1. Cared for some of the earliest known cases in the country.

                                                                  You're a slave to whatever bullshit YT vids or radicalized articles you choose to read and believe.

                                                                  I choose to believe what I see and it just so coincides with all the data you reject
                                                                  Lmfao you are very bad at not responding. You must like lying.

                                                                  I'm sure we all live this.i see it with my own eyes as well and have talked to many doctors and nurses including two family member doctors that have told me they are told to lost all flu like illnesses as covid since the hospitals get more money from that.

                                                                  You're a slave to the mainstream media liberal Snowflake.

                                                                  I choose to believe what I sed not your opinions kid.
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                                                                  • The Kraken
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Demonata
                                                                    Lmfao you are very bad at not responding. You must like lying.

                                                                    I'm sure we all live this.i see it with my own eyes as well and have talked to many doctors and nurses including two family member doctors that have told me they are told to lost all flu like illnesses as covid since the hospitals get more money from that.

                                                                    You're a slave to the mainstream media liberal Snowflake.

                                                                    I choose to believe what I sed not your opinions kid.
                                                                    You experienced this through Foxnews sitting on your sofa. I live it through n95's, papr's, hazmat suits and 24 hour shifts

                                                                    So nah, you haven't lived this for even 1 minute

                                                                    But you are still entitled to your opinion regardless of how silly it is

                                                                    God Bless
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                                                                    • Demonata
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by The Kraken
                                                                      You experienced this through Foxnews sitting on your sofa. I live it through n95's, papr's, hazmat suits and 24 hour shifts

                                                                      So nah, you haven't lived this for even 1 minute

                                                                      But you are still entitled to your opinion regardless of how silly it is

                                                                      God Bless
                                                                      I experienced this through the many protests I have gone too over masks vaccines etc. Also I rarely watch the news and if I do it's newsmax not the democrat cnn you watch. I am rarely at home. So you are a doctor? I seriously doubt that.

                                                                      Your opinion nonsense most of the time. I prefer facts over opinions liberal. Keep worshipping covid.
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