Florida 100% back to normal

**jackpot269** · 07-24-21, 11:15 PM

ORLANDO, Fla. —Florida is reporting 73,199 new COVID-19 cases throughout the state, more than 25,000 more cases than the previous week.
The number of cases has brought the positivity rate from 11% the week before, to 15%, with new deaths.

As the number of cases in Florida continues to sore, the number of people being vaccinated continues to drop. This week, 245,945 people either completed their series of shots or got their first dose.
Orange County has the highest number of new cases in Central Florida with 5,356 but has the lowest positivity rate. Flagler County has the highest positivity rate locally, sitting at 22.1% with 392 new cases.
Numbers throughout Central Florida:
Orange County:
New cases: 5,356
New Case Positivity: 15.6%

Osceola County
New cases: 1,471
New Case Positivity: 16.5%
Brevard County:
New cases: 2,166
New Case Positivity: 20.3%
Seminole County:
New cases: 1,618
New Case Positivity: 19.4%
Volusia County:
New cases: 2,144
New Case Positivity: 21.6%
Flagler County:
New cases: 392
New Case Positivity: 22.1%
Lake County:
New cases: 1,165
New Case Positivity: 17.8%
Marion County:
New cases: 1,056
New Case Positivity: 18.5%

**Sanity Check** · 07-24-21, 11:27 PM

Florida never complied with lockdowns.

"Rising cases" are a little late.

But removing mask mandates, could have had something to do with it.

**MinnesotaFats** · 07-24-21, 11:57 PM

Florida never had a mask mandate either

This is summertime in FL

All the old people stay indoors w the AC on I their gated communities...so yeah, the old people all dine together, live & play together indoors, it's not surprising.

Anyone remember the ghonnerea outbreak in the Villages lol

If deaths were a concern, you'd see panic. They're not. The media just trying to take down DeSantis as he starts his 2024 campaign.

Nothing to see here, and btw, what's that new effective rate for the shot now? 24% lol. At what point are we going to recognize that this is NOT a vaccine as it doesn't prevent or cure a damn thing? It's a jab of something that's being tested still and hasn't proven successful at preventing infection or spread.

**Sanity Check** · 07-25-21, 12:02 AM

Originally posted by MinnesotaFats

Florida never had a mask mandate either

Local mask mandates revoked by Gov. DeSantis

As of May 3, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis suspended all local COVID emergency orders, including mask mandates. In addition, DeSantis signed into law SB 2006, which limits government's ability to impose mask requirements and other social-distancing measures, and also prohibits "vaccine passports".

Guidelines relaxed, local mask mandates banned. Which COVID restrictions are still active in Florida?

https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/news/coronavirus/2021/05/14/which-covid-19-restrictions-still-active-florida-cdc-desantis/5091745001/

With the CDC now recommending that fully vaccinated people can go mask-free, it's worth looking at what restrictions are on the books for Florida.

I always support mask mandates.

COVID infects the lungs, it makes sense exhaled water droplets would be the main path of infection.

**TheMoneyShot** · 07-25-21, 12:15 AM

And people still moving to FLORIDA!!!! So the governor must be doing something right!!

**Sanity Check** · 07-25-21, 12:24 AM

DeSantis is doing good work.

But removing mask mandates to stem the tide of COVID infection.

Is like banning condoms to prevent the spread of AIDs.

**d2bets** · 07-25-21, 10:14 AM

Originally posted by Sanity Check

Florida never complied with lockdowns.

"Rising cases" are a little late.

But removing mask mandates, could have had something to do with it.

Low vaccination rate definitely has "something to do with it"

**d2bets** · 07-25-21, 10:15 AM

Originally posted by MinnesotaFats

Florida never had a mask mandate either

This is summertime in FL

All the old people stay indoors w the AC on I their gated communities...so yeah, the old people all dine together, live & play together indoors, it's not surprising.

Anyone remember the ghonnerea outbreak in the Villages lol

If deaths were a concern, you'd see panic. They're not. The media just trying to take down DeSantis as he starts his 2024 campaign.

Nothing to see here, and btw, what's that new effective rate for the shot now? 24% lol. At what point are we going to recognize that this is NOT a vaccine as it doesn't prevent or cure a damn thing? It's a jab of something that's being tested still and hasn't proven successful at preventing infection or spread.

WTF are you smoking? Take a look where they are having problems. It's where there is low vaccination rate. Not a fukkin coincidence. The vaccine works.

**d2bets** · 07-25-21, 10:17 AM

Originally posted by TheMoneyShot

And people still moving to FLORIDA!!!! So the governor must be doing something right!!

Dumb people flock together.

**d2bets** · 07-25-21, 10:18 AM

Originally posted by Sanity Check

DeSantis is doing good work.

But removing mask mandates to stem the tide of COVID infection.

Is like banning condoms to prevent the spread of AIDs.

Except that masks are not banned and condoms are not mandated.

**d2bets** · 07-25-21, 11:00 AM

Originally posted by MinnesotaFats

Florida never had a mask mandate either

This is summertime in FL

All the old people stay indoors w the AC on I their gated communities...so yeah, the old people all dine together, live & play together indoors, it's not surprising.

Anyone remember the ghonnerea outbreak in the Villages lol

If deaths were a concern, you'd see panic. They're not. The media just trying to take down DeSantis as he starts his 2024 campaign.

Nothing to see here, and btw, what's that new effective rate for the shot now? 24% lol. At what point are we going to recognize that this is NOT a vaccine as it doesn't prevent or cure a damn thing? It's a jab of something that's being tested still and hasn't proven successful at preventing infection or spread.

If you don't believe me about the vaccine working, how about listening to FL Governor Ron DeSantis?

"These vaccines are saving lives. They are reducing mortality," he said. "If you look at the people that are being admitted to hospitals, over 95 percent of them are either not fully vaccinated or not vaccinated at all."

"If you are vaccinated, fully vaccinated, the chances of you getting seriously ill or dying from COVID is effectively zero," DeSantis added.

https://www.newsweek.com/sellout-ron-desantis-accused-taking-bribe-conservatives-after-promoting-vaccine-1612796

**MinnesotaFats** · 07-25-21, 12:50 PM

Originally posted by d2bets

If you don't believe me about the vaccine working, how about listening to FL Governor Ron DeSantis?

"These vaccines are saving lives. They are reducing mortality," he said. "If you look at the people that are being admitted to hospitals, over 95 percent of them are either not fully vaccinated or not vaccinated at all."

"If you are vaccinated, fully vaccinated, the chances of you getting seriously ill or dying from COVID is effectively zero," DeSantis added.

https://www.newsweek.com/sellout-ron-desantis-accused-taking-bribe-conservatives-after-promoting-vaccine-1612796

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Effective rate not outpacing human immunity

Coupled with all the reinfection ranging from Olympic athletes to Dems from TX to the Yankees to Golfers like Rahm & Brycon I'd think anyone with half a brain can independently conclude that the jab isn't preventing anything. Not death, not reinfection, not spread.

It's pointless.

Now, as I've said before. Gov $$ always gas strings...you gotta tow the political line. Ronny will day what needs to be said to get $$. His policies and actions speak for themselves. He is running in 24.

You cite spikes in States that are all in the South and hot. Like I said before, everyone goes inside when it's hot in the South. If you had tens of thousands of old people indoors playing cribbage and there was a cold outbreak its nothing, if it were ghonnorea (like the villages) it's nothing, if it were the flu it's nothing.

But you get to cherry pick a time & place & circumstance to fit your failing narrative so good work- you'd make a great CNN pundit. Just ignore the science, the published medical facts, the reinfection data on your TV, your politics and that affects the games you even bet on...just ignore all that and tell yourself that the jab works and will save the world lol.

Been looking for a flu cure, Aids cure, cancer cure, herpes cure for 50 years and nothing...but Biden wins an election and suddenly his medical suggestions are godsend and the vaccines he endorses are the greatest thing since free porn.

No.

The agenda is

1- this jab works
2- open borders
3- free $$ for votes
4- no evictions
5- withhold/ blackmail federal $ from those who disagree
6- label healthy non jabbed as enemy

Mind you...healthy non jabbed people haven't gotten anyone sick, are practicing good hygiene and likely working & paying taxes.

**SBR_Guest_Pro** · 07-25-21, 12:55 PM

Leave California, go to Florida. Thats the trend

**stevenash** · 07-25-21, 01:09 PM

Originally posted by TheMoneyShot

And people still moving to FLORIDA!!!! So the governor must be doing something right!!

No state income tax in Florida.
Has nothing to do what the governor is doing.

**The Kraken** · 07-25-21, 02:02 PM

ICU visit can be wake-up call for unvaccinated

https://www.yahoo.com/news/icu-visit-wake-call-unvaccinated-181420147.html

Amid a nationwide rollout of covid-19 vaccines, large swaths of the U.S. population have delayed or resisted getting shots.And some Americans have since come to regret holding off."We just thought we were young and pretty healthy and if we did get it, it wouldn't be too bad. It was (bad)."Just outside Little Rock, Arkansas, Tate Ezzi and his wife Christine were expecting their sixth child last may when both fell ill with serious COVID-19 symptoms. At the University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences (UAMS) hospital in Little Rock, Christine was put on a ventilator and then on Extracorporeal Membrane Oxygenation or ECMO, a machine that pumps blood outside a patient's body to an artificial heart and lungs.Ezzi said at some point Christine lost the pregnancy. "We just know the baby was stillborn. All we know is the oxygen just dropped too low at some point."Meanwhile Tate started experiencing his own symptoms of COVID-19 and said he spent eight or nine days in the hospital. "And I told them, any kind of treatment you can give me, any kind, any experimental treatments, whatever. You've got to get me better. Because I already knew she wasn't doing very well at the time."UAMS CEO Stephen Mette told Reuters too many Arkansans delayed getting vaccinated for various reasons. Unfortunately, it often takes a hospital visit to change minds."There's considerable resistance to getting the vaccine in the public. [flash] And I have to say that all the patients who are hospitalized here, upon recovery, if they have not been vaccinated, tell us that indeed, they change their mind and would get vaccinated once they're discharged."Of course, not everyone comes around."I started having difficulty breathing and my O2 started dropping, so I thought I better get to the hospital. And so they took me into the E.R. and then evaluated me and then brought me up to this unit."Brian Parisi spent more than a week in the ICU at Providence St. Joseph in Orange, California battling the novel coronavirus. The unvaccinated 53-year-old told Reuters he's not sure the vaccine would have helped."In retrospect, I honestly don't know if it (vaccine) would have made a difference because there are adverse reactions that can come from the vaccine."Critical care pulmonologist Dr. Jooby Babu disagrees. "It's quite obvious that people who are vaccinated are not getting symptomatic disease and much less likely so to get admitted with Covid."After spending most of May and June in the hospital, Christine Ezzi is still weak but improving daily.Tate Ezzi said he now has a message for his fellow Arkansans about the vaccines."I want people to be able to make their own choice, of course, but I do want to just tell my story because if it could happen to me, it could happen to anybody."

**tommir99** · 07-25-21, 02:13 PM

Originally posted by The Kraken

https://www.yahoo.com/news/icu-visit...181420147.html

Thank you. That sure was the wake up call I needed. I will go take the vaccine now.

**The Kraken** · 07-25-21, 03:45 PM

Originally posted by tommir99

Thank you. That sure was the wake up call I needed. I will go take the vaccine now.

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**Sanity Check** · 07-25-21, 06:56 PM

Originally posted by d2bets

Low vaccination rate definitely has "something to do with it"

After 12 months of pandemic.

Vaccines are 100% unrelated to infection spikes.

Especially during the summer.

**d2bets** · 07-25-21, 07:43 PM

Originally posted by Sanity Check

After 12 months of pandemic.

Vaccines are 100% unrelated to infection spikes.

Especially during the summer.

But it is directly related to hospitalization and death spikes. Agree?

As to the infection spikes, I disagree, there is some correlation, but not as strongly as the hosp/death correlation.

The test positively rates are clearly higher in lesser-vaxxed populations. It's very easy to see that.

And we've had the pandemic for 16 months and the vaccine really only for a few months or less.

**Sanity Check** · 07-25-21, 08:22 PM

Originally posted by d2bets

But it is directly related to hospitalization and death spikes.

If COVID vaccines function as advertised.

They can only reduce the infection rate of the pandemic.

Never increase it. They don't make the pandemic more infectious, causing a spike.

...

Florida ending mask mandates is behind rise in infections (if data is accurate).

**d2bets** · 07-25-21, 08:46 PM

Originally posted by Sanity Check

If COVID vaccines function as advertised.

They can only reduce the infection rate of the pandemic.

Never increase it. They don't make the pandemic more infectious, causing a spike.

...

Florida ending mask mandates is behind rise in infections (if data is accurate).

Nope. Delta variant is more contagious. We know this. So need a higher vax rate to reduce infections. It's not just Florida. It's spikes it all localities with low vaxx rates regardless of mask mandates. The opposite for high vaxx areas, which mostly don't have mask mandates (because not needed as much). It's 100% without a doubt the vaccine that has saved lives and reduced hospitalizations. Masks work to slow infection rate if everyone wears them consistently and properly. But the vaccine is allowing near herd immunity in some communities (but not in others).

Masks can work to slow the spread but the vaccine can basically end the spread if enough people take it. If that had happened, what we're seeing now would not be happening. Full stop. If 80%+ everywhere had taken the vaccine, which should have happened, we wouldn't be talking about this.

Now Trumpers are finally trying to rebrand as the Trump Vaccine to get Trumpers to take it. Too late. Their minds are always cemented. You blew it Huckabee Sanders, DeSantis, Hannity, etc etc etc. You killed your supporters, literally.

**Sanity Check** · 07-25-21, 09:24 PM

Originally posted by d2bets

It's spikes it all localities with low vaxx rates

There are a countries in europe with high vax rates.

Who are seeing a spike.

If delta variant is new. It takes 12 months to develop a vaccine for it.

**Sanity Check** · 07-25-21, 09:41 PM

Originally posted by d2bets

Delta variant

AFAIK delta variant originated in india.

And may not have made its way to the USA and florida yet.

There are news stories of america closing borders to keep it out.

I don't know why I bother to reply. No one seems to give a fk enough to learn the basics. On anything.

**TheMoneyShot** · 07-26-21, 02:24 AM

Originally posted by stevenash

No state income tax in Florida.
Has nothing to do what the governor is doing.

Nasher... how many years has it been for no state income tax??? Been going on for awhile.... no?

**stevenash** · 07-26-21, 08:16 AM

Originally posted by TheMoneyShot

Nasher... how many years has it been for no state income tax??? Been going on for awhile.... no?

180 years.
And it's one of the primary reasons folks with small business want to settle there, no income tax, make all the money you can without the state taking a bite.

That and the climate which I don't quite understand, I spent some time in Fort Myers and I sweated my balls off.

Nevada too, that's no state income tax also, but their COVID 19 problem right now is out of control.

They're plenty of valid reasons why people are moving to Florida, but what the Governor is doing or not doing regarding COVID is not one of them.

**Sanity Check** · 07-26-21, 09:40 AM

Originally posted by stevenash

They're plenty of valid reasons why people are moving to Florida, but what the Governor is doing or not doing regarding COVID is not one of them.

No lockdowns in FL has nothing to do with it?

**stevenash** · 07-26-21, 09:53 AM

Originally posted by Sanity Check

No lockdowns in FL has nothing to do with it?

No.
Not at all.

Know how many states are restriction free like Florida?
Pretty much every state.

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https://www.usatoday.com/storytelling/coronavirus-reopening-america-map/

**BrickJames** · 07-27-21, 10:53 AM

I love Florida, one of these days I'm going to hang my gun on the wall and live there for good, for now it's only the winters.

**Chi_archie** · 07-28-21, 06:21 PM

imagine this critter coming to visit at 2 am in your home

Large Alligator Removed From Florida Home During Late Night Visit: 'Seeing Them Is Normal But Not On My Welcome Mat'

https://miami.cbslocal.com/2021/07/27/alligator-removed-florida-home-late-night-visit/

A Florida family is giving thanks to their dog for alerting them to an unwanted visitor in the middle of the night. It was a seven and a half foot alligator which decided it wanted to hang out on the front porch instead of a nearby canal.

**MinnesotaFats** · 07-28-21, 09:15 PM

People forget that florida has some of the best bankruptcy laws too.

Run up debt while you're old. Cash out investments tax free.. Pay off the $2mm house. File ch 7 flush all debts and keep the home, all of it.

Pass wealth onto kids

**juicername** · 07-28-21, 09:47 PM

Originally posted by MinnesotaFats

People forget that florida has some of the best bankruptcy laws too.

Run up debt while you're old. Cash out investments tax free.. Pay off the $2mm house. File ch 7 flush all debts and keep the home, all of it.

Pass wealth onto kids

Scam the system, Trump style.

**Sanity Check** · 07-29-21, 02:23 AM

Originally posted by stevenash

No.
Not at all.

Know how many states are restriction free like Florida?
Pretty much every state.

https://www.usatoday.com/storytellin...g-america-map/

Texas and florida made blue states look bad by not locking down businesses.

If democrats could get away with locking down every state in the country, they would.

And you would support them. As you're determined to live in a future where you're starving, have no food and none of the rights or freedoms you enjoy now.

**Chi_archie** · 08-02-21, 07:58 AM

Marlins seem to be doing better with attendance this year as opposed to more normal 2019,2018 kind of years

**MinnesotaFats** · 08-02-21, 10:47 AM

Originally posted by juicername

Scam the system, Trump style.

The system is in place to encourage home ownership and generational wealth.

That's a good thing if you're not a communist

It's also easy to understand and implement unless you're black...they still don't seem to understand economics or wealth management despite 160 years of freedom

**d2bets** · 08-02-21, 02:59 PM

Originally posted by MinnesotaFats

People forget that florida has some of the best bankruptcy laws too.

Run up debt while you're old. Cash out investments tax free.. Pay off the $2mm house. File ch 7 flush all debts and keep the home, all of it.

Pass wealth onto kids

The 'Murican Dream.