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  • Sanity Check
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    • 03-30-13
    • 10962

    #1
    anti vaxxers
    If anti vaxxers were given 2 choices.

    A. Take the COVID vaccine.




    ...

    ...

    B. Be kicked in the nuts by an unathletic woman.






    Which choice would they opt for.

    And why.


    37
    Take the COVID vaccine
    0%
    8
    Kicked in nuts by unathletic woman
    0%
    23
    Uncertain
    0%
    6
  • MinnesotaFats
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 12-18-10
    • 14758

    #2
    I'm not "anti vax" but I certainly don't want this to be mandatory.

    The protocols that were skipped, the limited effectivr rate, the use of HIV proteins, etc...

    Not a legitimate question raised here.

    By mid 2022 we'll know more. Is it safe? Is it effective? Is it really needed?
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    • Andy117
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      • 02-07-10
      • 9511

      #3
      Originally posted by MinnesotaFats
      the use of HIV proteins, etc...
      Where did you get that from?
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      • Sanity Check
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 03-30-13
        • 10962

        #4
        I would rather be kicked in the nuts.

        Than take the chinese corona AIDs vaccine btw.


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        • ace7550
          SBR MVP
          • 05-08-15
          • 3729

          #5
          Originally posted by MinnesotaFats
          I'm not "anti vax" but I certainly don't want this to be mandatory.
          That's how I feel about pretty much everything.
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          • MinnesotaFats
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            • 12-18-10
            • 14758

            #6
            Originally posted by Andy117
            Where did you get that from?
            Modified CD4 & CD8 T cells are used in all 3 vaccines, this is HIV rna, and in fact could produce a false positive test for HIV depending on your body's response to the vax, but also all clinical studies have found recipients are at a higher risk of developing HIV thereafter (based on lifestyle of course)
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            • themike78
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              • 07-01-13
              • 4873

              #7
              I'm more worried about the long term effects of the Kung Flu than the vaccine. I will take my chances with the vaccine.
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              • HockeyRocks
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                • 07-10-13
                • 6069

                #8
                Originally posted by MinnesotaFats
                Modified CD4 & CD8 T cells are used in all 3 vaccines, this is HIV rna, and in fact could produce a false positive test for HIV depending on your body's response to the vax, but also all clinical studies have found recipients are at a higher risk of developing HIV thereafter (based on lifestyle of course)
                Your full of shyte as usual...
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                • TheMoneyShot
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                  • 02-14-07
                  • 28672

                  #9
                  Some medical staff indicating Covid vaccination leading to impotence in people. I mean... what a way to control the world population???
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                  • MinnesotaFats
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                    • 12-18-10
                    • 14758

                    #10
                    Originally posted by HockeyRocks
                    Your full of shyte as usual...
                    LOL yeah just making up info about the RNA of a vaccine TCells

                    Get a fukking life you clown, seriously

                    You are Junior Varsity
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                    • Sanity Check
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                      • 03-30-13
                      • 10962

                      #11
                      Should have made this thread sooner.
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                      • The Kraken
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                        • 12-25-11
                        • 28918

                        #12
                        Originally posted by MinnesotaFats
                        LOL yeah just making up info about the RNA of a vaccine TCells

                        Get a fukking life you clown, seriously

                        You are Junior Varsity
                        There was one company that used hiv proteins in their vaccine, they were working on it in Australia, But the work has been discontinued

                        Pfizer and Moderna don’t contain hiv proteins, nor do they contain cd4 or cd8 T cells, rather they stimulate our bodies to produce cd8 t cels in response to the vaccine which is a good thing.

                        Cd4/cd8 is loosely associate with hiv because they become depleted in a person with active hiv and they use those values to trend how severe the hiv is at any given moment.

                        But cd4 and cd8 T cells are healthy cells that are a small part of our natural immune system. Pfizer creates the strongest cd8 T cell response which is a good thing but cd8 T cells are not in the vaccine
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                        • The Kraken
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                          • 12-25-11
                          • 28918

                          #13
                          Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                          Some medical staff indicating Covid vaccination leading to impotence in people. I mean... what a way to control the world population???
                          Lol, I can confirm this is not true

                          You guys will believe anything but the truth
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                          • NrmlCurvSurfr
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                            • 04-05-10
                            • 2896

                            #14
                            Originally posted by The Kraken
                            Lol, I can confirm this is not true

                            You guys will believe anything but the truth
                            A lady next door told me she’s holding out because she trying to get pregnant at the moment...her husband works in the med field, a nurse I believe, I wonder why she has that concern or is any vaccine that should be avoided while trying to get pregnant?
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                            • edawg
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                              • 07-09-11
                              • 2820

                              #15
                              Originally posted by The Kraken
                              Lol, I can confirm this is not true

                              You guys will believe anything but the truth
                              How did you confirm this? On second thought don't tell me I don't want to know!
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                              • The Kraken
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                                • 12-25-11
                                • 28918

                                #16
                                Originally posted by NrmlCurvSurfr
                                A lady next door told me she’s holding out because she trying to get pregnant at the moment...her husband works in the med field, a nurse I believe, I wonder why she has that concern or is any vaccine that should be avoided while trying to get pregnant?
                                She has that concern because there’s so much disinformation out there rn.

                                Disinformation is at an all time high and people are questioning obvious truths and facts we’ve know for centuries, because some YouTube’s is saying the earth is flat or whatever other conspiracy you want to name.

                                It was always inevitable that there would be a massive disinformation push on this vaccine because the convictions of anti-vaxxers, they’re simply being opportunists.

                                “It causes limp duck, women can’t get pregnant, it has hiv proteins, it’s a tracker, bill gates is killing us” etc blah blah blah

                                People with an agenda are doing what they’ve always done, capitalizing on our fear of the unknown.
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                                • The Kraken
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                                  • 12-25-11
                                  • 28918

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by edawg
                                  How did you confirm this? On second thought don't tell me I don't want to know!
                                  I sucked off every man in America that got the vaccine
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                                  • NrmlCurvSurfr
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                                    • 04-05-10
                                    • 2896

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by The Kraken
                                    She has that concern because there’s so much disinformation out there rn.

                                    Disinformation is at an all time high and people are questioning obvious truths and facts we’ve know for centuries, because some YouTube’s is saying the earth is flat or whatever other conspiracy you want to name.

                                    It was always inevitable that there would be a massive disinformation push on this vaccine because the convictions of anti-vaxxers, they’re simply being opportunists.

                                    “It causes limp duck, women can’t get pregnant, it has hiv proteins, it’s a tracker, bill gates is killing us” etc blah blah blah

                                    People with an agenda are doing what they’ve always done, capitalizing on our fear of the unknown.
                                    I just think her husband would have access to credible info, if docs and nurses are concerned about possible side effects, how on earth is the general public supposed to be all for it?
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                                    • NrmlCurvSurfr
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 04-05-10
                                      • 2896

                                      #19
                                      ^ btw her husband works for a large hospital in the Texas medical center, not some small podunk town or anything like that..also for sure she voted for Biden, definite liberal..if that matters lol
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                                      • edawg
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 07-09-11
                                        • 2820

                                        #20
                                        [QUOTE=The Kraken;30208377]I sucked off every man in America that got the vaccine[/QUOTE
                                        Damn you I said I DIDN'T want to know!
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                                        • The Kraken
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                                          • 12-25-11
                                          • 28918

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by NrmlCurvSurfr
                                          I just think her husband would have access to credible info, if docs and nurses are concerned about possible side effects, how on earth is the general public supposed to be all for it?
                                          There’s no credible evidence that shows the COVID vaccine or any other vaccine would prevent a woman from getting pregnant.

                                          I don’t think the general public will ever be all for it. COVID, and thus the vaccine, was HEAVILY politicized from day 1. For most, Our beliefs and views on the vaccine correlate directly with our political affiliations, and that’s unfortunate and sad.

                                          If your neighbor believes the covid vaccine might affect her ability to get pregnant, I would never advise her to do something she’s uncomfortable with. It’s ok to not get the vaccine. I got it this year, I might not next year.

                                          And fwiw, the ob/gyn society is now recommending all pregnant women get the vaccine and have studies showing it doesn’t harm fetuses..
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                                          • NrmlCurvSurfr
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                                            • 04-05-10
                                            • 2896

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by The Kraken
                                            There’s no credible evidence that shows the COVID vaccine or any other vaccine would prevent a woman from getting pregnant.

                                            I don’t think the general public will ever be all for it. COVID, and thus the vaccine, was HEAVILY politicized from day 1. For most, Our beliefs and views on the vaccine correlate directly with our political affiliations, and that’s unfortunate and sad.

                                            If your neighbor believes the covid vaccine might affect her ability to get pregnant, I would never advise her to do something she’s uncomfortable with. It’s ok to not get the vaccine. I got it this year, I might not next year.

                                            And fwiw, the ob/gyn society is now recommending all pregnant women get the vaccine and have studies showing it doesn’t harm fetuses..
                                            I don't know if there is much credible evidence for anything related to the COVID vaccine, at the moment. It's just concerning to me that some medical professionals are concerned but many people don't give it a second thought to get the vaccine...I mean, you have people flaunting it when they get it lol..it all seems insane to me...
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                                            • The Kraken
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                                              • 12-25-11
                                              • 28918

                                              #23
                                              I think we see this the same way.

                                              As for medical professionals, there are always those docs that are contrarians. I work in a department that has been around for quite some time and we have shown over and over and over again that what we do decreases morbidity and mortality, and also increases quality of life. And yet medical professionals still question what we do.

                                              But that’s ok, their questions keep us honest and make us prove what we do is beneficial, so contrarians are an important part of the machine.
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                                              • edawg
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 07-09-11
                                                • 2820

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by The Kraken
                                                She has that concern because there’s so much disinformation out there rn.

                                                Disinformation is at an all time high and people are questioning obvious truths and facts we’ve know for centuries, because some YouTube’s is saying the earth is flat or whatever other conspiracy you want to name.

                                                It was always inevitable that there would be a massive disinformation push on this vaccine because the convictions of anti-vaxxers, they’re simply being opportunists.

                                                “It causes limp duck, women can’t get pregnant, it has hiv proteins, it’s a tracker, bill gates is killing us” etc blah blah blah

                                                People with an agenda are doing what they’ve always done, capitalizing on our fear of the unknown.
                                                I hope you understand you are railing against the same thing you are advocating
                                                the only difference being you side with Msm, big Pharma, and the hospital money making machines.
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                                                • The Kraken
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                                                  • 12-25-11
                                                  • 28918

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by edawg
                                                  I hope you understand you are railing against the same thing you are advocating
                                                  the only difference being you side with Msm, big Pharma, and the hospital money making machines.
                                                  I’m neither railing against nor advocating for anything.

                                                  I’ve made it very clear I am not pushing for people to get the vaccine. Nor am I admonishing people that choose to get it.

                                                  I’m simply stating that there is no evidence that supports people’s fear, yet there is plenty of evidence as of now that shows the vaccines are safe and effective. That doesn’t mean I advocate for them however, I’m simply telling you what the science says
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                                                  • edawg
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                                                    • 07-09-11
                                                    • 2820

                                                    #26
                                                    [QUOTE=The Kraken;30208576]I’m neither railing against nor advocating for anything.

                                                    I’ve made it very clear I am not pushing for people to get the vaccine. Nor am I admonishing people that choose to get it.

                                                    I’m simply stating that there is no evidence that supports people’s fear, yet there is plenty of evidence as of now that shows the vaccines are safe and effective. That doesn’t mean I advocate for them however, I’m simply telling you what the science says[/QUOTE
                                                    I am smart enough to figure out what the "science" says. I have respect for what you do because all the women in my family were icu nurses and know how hard you work. All I am saying is don't become a pimp for big pharma you more than most should understand the difference between patient care and pure greed.
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                                                    • Sanity Check
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 03-30-13
                                                      • 10962

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by The Kraken
                                                      there is plenty of evidence as of now that shows the vaccines are safe and effective.
                                                      Why take an untested and potentially dangerous vaccine.

                                                      To protect from a virus with less than 0.3% odds of being dangerous.

                                                      Sometimes the cure is worse than the disease.
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                                                      • HockeyRocks
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 07-10-13
                                                        • 6069

                                                        #28
                                                        Douchebag Don sneaks in the back door, gets his shot, then comes out the front door and announces to his ignorant followers nothing. With so much blood on his hands i would be embarrassed to
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                                                        • packerd_00
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 05-22-13
                                                          • 17809

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by The Kraken
                                                          She has that concern because there’s so much disinformation out there rn.

                                                          Disinformation is at an all time high and people are questioning obvious truths and facts we’ve know for centuries, because some YouTube’s is saying the earth is flat or whatever other conspiracy you want to name.

                                                          It was always inevitable that there would be a massive disinformation push on this vaccine because the convictions of anti-vaxxers, they’re simply being opportunists.

                                                          “It causes limp duck, women can’t get pregnant, it has hiv proteins, it’s a tracker, bill gates is killing us” etc blah blah blah

                                                          People with an agenda are doing what they’ve always done, capitalizing on our fear of the unknown.
                                                          How many people are profiting off pushing the vaccinations dude. To many.
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                                                          • Ghenghis Kahn
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                                                            • 01-02-12
                                                            • 19734

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                                                            Some medical staff indicating Covid vaccination leading to impotence in people. I mean... what a way to control the world population???
                                                            Also sterilization...

                                                            and the blue face masks have chemical called phthalates in them which shrinks your dick, no joke...
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                                                            • Ghenghis Kahn
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                                                              • 01-02-12
                                                              • 19734

                                                              #31
                                                              Only reason why the criminals would make anything mandatory is because it doesn't work. If it worked, they wouldn't need to make anything mandatory. Simple concept but idiots will never understand and now the criminals are bringing up patriotism with the jab. Lol it's ridiculous how they want to guilt trip people into taking the poison.

                                                              "Take the poison for your country!!!"

                                                              Fukking joke
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                                                              • StackinGreen
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                                                                • 10-09-10
                                                                • 12140

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by The Kraken
                                                                I’m neither railing against nor advocating for anything.

                                                                I’ve made it very clear I am not pushing for people to get the vaccine. Nor am I admonishing people that choose to get it.

                                                                I’m simply stating that there is no evidence that supports people’s fear, yet there is plenty of evidence as of now that shows the vaccines are safe and effective. That doesn’t mean I advocate for them however, I’m simply telling you what the science says
                                                                Every take there is fine except this is an EUA which means by definition there is NO evidence to show it is "safe". Using the word "science" generically is showing you don't understand what "science" is, by the way.
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                                                                • The Kraken
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                                                                  • 12-25-11
                                                                  • 28918

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by StackinGreen
                                                                  Every take there is fine except this is an EUA which means by definition there is NO evidence to show it is "safe". Using the word "science" generically is showing you don't understand what "science" is, by the way.
                                                                  You couldn’t be more wrong

                                                                  It took a ton of evidence of safety just to get an EUA, jfc man. And it takes a lot more than just evidence of safety to get fda approval.

                                                                  I pray to god you’re not a real doc. If you wanna play choro then whatever but you don’t understand the absolute basics of the fda approval process including what it takes to get EUA
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                                                                  • edawg
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                                                                    • 07-09-11
                                                                    • 2820

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Alot of this is just the intellectual laziness in todays society. It is all to easy to let somebody else do the thinking for you on what to drink, eat, wear, worship, drive, where to live, who to fukk, and what medicine to take to get everything you ever need or wanted or what medicine to take so you won't die which you eventually will regardless. The problem with this as many of the worst decievers have important titles especially in religion and heathcare. Just put a DR or MD in front of someones name and watch the sheep repeat.
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                                                                    • hehfest
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                                                                      • 09-28-08
                                                                      • 7934

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by NrmlCurvSurfr
                                                                      A lady next door told me she’s holding out because she trying to get pregnant at the moment...her husband works in the med field, a nurse I believe, I wonder why she has that concern or is any vaccine that should be avoided while trying to get pregnant?

                                                                      Strange do you live in Michigan? I haven't talked to them but lady across street pregnant I think he is either a nurse or EMT. I can't figure out why people would want to "try" to get pregnant with the world situation. Accident okay I get it! But, dude, its Michigan, and you are the worse state in the country right now. This is the worse time to get pregnant in history.
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