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  • darrell74
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 04-16-07
    • 14648

    #1
    Bridge collapsed in Taiwan


    No audio.
    Nevertheless, quite a scene.
  • darrell74
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 04-16-07
    • 14648

    #2
    Big truck that didn't make it
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    • Foxx
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 05-25-11
      • 5832

      #3
      Fuk. That sucks.
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      • Bostongambler
        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
        • 02-01-08
        • 35581

        #4
        Damm...
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        • slayer14
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          • 08-12-13
          • 22022

          #5
          Originally posted by darrell74
          Big truck that didn't make it
          Guy was so close
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          • DiggityDaggityDo
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 11-30-08
            • 81450

            #6
            Originally posted by slayer14
            Guy was so close
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            • cincinnatikid513
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 11-23-17
              • 45360

              #7
              Oct. 1 (UPI) -- Two people were killed and 20 were injured Tuesday after a landmark bridge collapsed on top of three boats in Taiwan, authorities said.

              https://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-N...9391569942130/
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              • Slurry Pumper
                SBR MVP
                • 06-18-18
                • 2811

                #8
                As an engineer, this thing looks like a classic mis-calculation of forces or incorrect material choices. I suspect, that the
                conection bolts in the wye joints on either end where not up to the strength calculated amount. The construction team probably
                substituted regular cheap bolts instead of using A490 structural bolts for instance. With the design not having a connection
                redundacy means that you really need to make sure that the wye connection is made correctly. If you look at the aftermath you can
                see the separation of the wye joint at the base of the bridge. If they utilized the correct bolts, this connection would not
                separate, but rather distort the joint before separation. Of course I am making this commentary using nothing but the video, but
                that is my 2 cents.
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                • darrell74
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 04-16-07
                  • 14648

                  #9
                  ^
                  Good feedback
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                  • JAKEPEAVY21
                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                    • 03-11-11
                    • 29328

                    #10
                    With this and the one at the college in Florida recently (UCF I think?), I'm starting to think twice everytime I cross a bridge or freeway on ramp.
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                    • DiggityDaggityDo
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 11-30-08
                      • 81450

                      #11
                      Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                      With this and the one at the college in Florida recently (UCF I think?), I'm starting to think twice everytime I cross a bridge or freeway on ramp.
                      Might be safer to cross it than go under it.
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                      • TheMoneyShot
                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                        • 02-14-07
                        • 28672

                        #12
                        Originally posted by darrell74
                        Big truck that didn't make it
                        I noticed that... dude has to be dead.

                        Some Final Destination sh#$... that's for sure.
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                        • cincinnatikid513
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 11-23-17
                          • 45360

                          #13
                          Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                          With this and the one at the college in Florida recently (UCF I think?), I'm starting to think twice everytime I cross a bridge or freeway on ramp.
                          fiu


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                          • JAKEPEAVY21
                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                            • 03-11-11
                            • 29328

                            #14
                            Originally posted by DiggityDaggityDo
                            Might be safer to cross it than go under it.
                            ya no kidding...since the FIU tragedy, I'm now far more aware when I'm at a red light and underneath a bridge or freeway
                            Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
                            fiu


                            yep that was supposed to be some new and improved architecture...tragic
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                            • cincinnatikid513
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 11-23-17
                              • 45360

                              #15
                              Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                              ya no kidding...since the FIU tragedy, I'm now far more aware when I'm at a red light and underneath a bridge or freeway


                              yep that was supposed to be some new and improved architecture...tragic
                              It cracked like hell.' Engineer ignored warning signs hours before deadly FIU footbridge collapse, report says

                              Hours before a pedestrian bridge collapsed at Florida International University last year, engineers said cracks in the structure didn't pose a safety concern, according to an Occupational Safety and Health Administration report.

                              The March 2018 collapse -- which killed six people -- could have been prevented, OSHA said in the 115-page report released this month.
                              Growing cracks in the structure warranted an immediate closure of SW 8th Street, the street onto which the bridge collapsed, the report said. But the bridge's designers, FIGG Bridge Engineers, after inspecting it that day, said the cracks did not pose any safety concerns, according to the report.
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                              • JAKEPEAVY21
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 03-11-11
                                • 29328

                                #16
                                Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
                                It cracked like hell.' Engineer ignored warning signs hours before deadly FIU footbridge collapse, report says



                                Hours before a pedestrian bridge collapsed at Florida International University last year, engineers said cracks in the structure didn't pose a safety concern, according to an Occupational Safety and Health Administration report.

                                The March 2018 collapse -- which killed six people -- could have been prevented, OSHA said in the 115-page report released this month.
                                Growing cracks in the structure warranted an immediate closure of SW 8th Street, the street onto which the bridge collapsed, the report said. But the bridge's designers, FIGG Bridge Engineers, after inspecting it that day, said the cracks did not pose any safety concerns, according to the report.
                                wow I hope they all get the book thrown at them

                                better safe than sorry when many lives are at stake
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                                • Kermit
                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                  • 09-27-10
                                  • 32555

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                                  ya no kidding...since the FIU tragedy, I'm now far more aware when I'm at a red light and underneath a bridge or freeway


                                  yep that was supposed to be some new and improved architecture...tragic
                                  Didn't some woman design it?
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                                  • Slurry Pumper
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 06-18-18
                                    • 2811

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Kermit
                                    Didn't some woman design it?
                                    I doubt it I've been in the engineering business for about 30 years now and can count on an
                                    amputated hand how many women I have encountered in this business. I think the problem is
                                    the CADD software allows for more wild designs that theorectically hold up, but the practical
                                    building of such a structure requires some very specific techniques that construction companies
                                    are not familiar with keeping track of the smallest details in the design. As a rule, let a
                                    structure stand for a year or so before you decide to go under or on it if you can, especially
                                    if the design looks wild. If the structure is a typical design that you have seen before, it
                                    probably O.K. but the crazy shit that looks space age needs to have some service time before
                                    I will trust it.
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                                    • Salam
                                      SBR Sharp
                                      • 08-26-13
                                      • 397

                                      #19
                                      the Chinese aren't that good at building
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                                      • DwightShrute
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                                        • 01-17-09
                                        • 103459

                                        #20
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                                        • TheMoneyShot
                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                          • 02-14-07
                                          • 28672

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
                                          fiu


                                          Amazing to see so many people get out of their cars and walk closer to something that collapsed? Sorry... instinctively.... I'm not getting out of my car... and I'm putting the sh#$ in reverse.
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                                          • MinnesotaFats
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 12-18-10
                                            • 14758

                                            #22
                                            Only 2 dead? Wow
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                                            • Esco
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 05-08-09
                                              • 972

                                              #23
                                              Lousy gravity
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                                              • BigJay
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 01-14-12
                                                • 3485

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                                                Amazing to see so many people get out of their cars and walk closer to something that collapsed? Sorry... instinctively.... I'm not getting out of my car... and I'm putting the sh#$ in reverse.
                                                That’s exactly what I was going to write. Crazy. They all got out of they cars and were basically sprinting toward a freaking bridge that just collapsed and was obviously very unstable. Shit could have fallen back on them pretty easily it looked like.
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                                                • FrozenMAN
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 01-23-09
                                                  • 4334

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Slurry Pumper
                                                  As an engineer, this thing looks like a classic mis-calculation of forces or incorrect material choices. I suspect, that the
                                                  conection bolts in the wye joints on either end where not up to the strength calculated amount. The construction team probably
                                                  substituted regular cheap bolts instead of using A490 structural bolts for instance. With the design not having a connection
                                                  redundacy means that you really need to make sure that the wye connection is made correctly. If you look at the aftermath you can
                                                  see the separation of the wye joint at the base of the bridge. If they utilized the correct bolts, this connection would not
                                                  separate, but rather distort the joint before separation. Of course I am making this commentary using nothing but the video, but
                                                  that is my 2 cents.
                                                  OOOO another crazy structural engineer is on the board eh? lol
                                                  They used A490 but they were from China as they were $10 bucks cheaper per box but the equivalent of using duct tape
                                                  - even with under designing, this should never happen unless it was a complete gross mis calculation or error in construction, there's too much redundancy in designs to ever have this occur besides a gross penetrate up
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                                                  • Esco
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 05-08-09
                                                    • 972

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Salam
                                                    the Chinese aren't that good at building
                                                    Taiwan =/= China
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                                                    • Slurry Pumper
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 06-18-18
                                                      • 2811

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by FrozenMAN
                                                      OOOO another crazy structural engineer is on the board eh? lol
                                                      They used A490 but they were from China as they were $10 bucks cheaper per box but the equivalent of using duct tape
                                                      - even with under designing, this should never happen unless it was a complete gross mis calculation or error in construction, there's too much redundancy in designs to ever have this occur besides a gross penetrate up

                                                      Actually I engineer slurry pumps and pressure vessels for oil refinerys and chemical plants. I agree with the
                                                      redundancy claim usually but in this case it doesn't look like there is anything holding the bridge together
                                                      other than the connection on either end of the bridge. I'm sure there are twice as many bolts as needed in the
                                                      connection, but still just the 1 connection to do the job.
                                                      We just got a report from the "accident" in Florida FIU campus that states the bridge wasn't designed by a firm
                                                      that had the qualifications to do so. I assume that the top engineer there isn't a licensed P.E. and that is
                                                      what they are getting at. If this is the case some dudes should go to jail for a while for endangering the public.
                                                      My doctor always acts like he is god with all the knowledge of the body and the ability to make decisions over
                                                      life and death, and I tell him to take a back seat because he can only kill people one at a time, while if I fuct
                                                      something up, I can kill hundreds at a time easily.
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