Cops harassed in Harlem

[Hman]

Sad story indeed.

But the pendulum swings BOTH WAYS.

Many of you here are completely ignorant about the Police outright abuse in the 1960’s during the Black protests. Police turned FIREHOSES onto Black protesters. REALLY??? Do you really think that was an appropriate response???

C’mon man. You’re really comparing water buckets to fukking fire hoses???

So, yes, the pendulum has swung completely the other way.

And you don’t like it...
WELL DEAL WITH IT. AND LEARN SOME HISTORY ABOUT WHY THIS IS HAPPENING IN 2019.

Huh

They were levelheaded and used hoses as an alternative to guns.

[Hman]

We have come a long way in the last 60 years, so why is this happening in 2019, but wasn't happening in 2000?

We HAD come a long way.

Until Obama divided us all more than ever.

[Hman]

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Death row is an easy ride too. Just keep appealing for 20 or 30 years. Get to talk with others, own jail cell, books and tv, 3 squares a day, etc..

This is one thing I've never believed in.

If someone is sentenced to death, it should have to be done within 1yr Max.

No way should a person have to wait 10-20 years when they could be a changed person by then.

[PittsburghPlayer]

if you don`t eat your meat, you can`t have any pudding
how can you have any pudding if you don`t
eat your meat?
not a thread ending statement, powerful still

if I were a pig, I`d say that to everyone, good and bad alike

[TheGoldenGoose]

None of the people involved in this current incident were around in the 60's and I doubt any of the kids even know about any of that, they are just raised to hate the police.

Rowdy people getting hoses turned on them is different than dumping buckets of water on people who are trying to do their job.

We have come a long way in the last 60 years, so why is this happening in 2019, but wasn't happening in 2000?

I don’t have any other answers but I DO have Black friends. I’m not sure a lot of other White people posting in this Thread can say that. And my Black friends are VERY aware of their history all the way back to their African roots.

If your ancestors where hung in trees by the KKK with their cocks cut off and stuffed in their mouths you’d have an attitude problem too. Also I’d like to see some of you keyboard warriors in here take a Fire Hose shot in the chest, get slammed on the sidewalk, and get up and tell me it’s the same as getting a plastic bucket in the head. I don’t think so.

[TheGoldenGoose]

if you don`t eat your meat, you can`t have any pudding
how can you have any pudding if you don`t
eat your meat?
not a thread ending statement, powerful still

if I were a pig, I`d say that to everyone, good and bad alike

Pink Floyd my number 3 all time favorite band.

Two Points awarded to anybody who can name my number 1 and my number 2.

[PittsburghPlayer]

Progressive art rock from the 70`s ?
fukk, could be Genesis but not an official guess


worth more than 2 points bro`

the WHO ruled
fukk, I have probably heard of the bands too
Prism, the Call?

CCR and Stevie Ray Vaughan.

Final answer!

[ABEHONEST]

Embarrassing.. Unbelievable!!!

Thugs and punks... It's all over the news now..

Those Cops should not have to endure that.. Fire those cops for being so passive..

I can't believe they didn't have the authority to do something in that situation.. NY is liberal but come on man!!!!

I talked about a similar problem on the Trump thread.
A vast majority of Black's are the very worst racist. Don't worry about White's, we are not ate-up with street-group racism as you see here. Especially when it's right in your face.
It must be stopped, And many times, this leads to a policeman being murdered by a cowardly thug. Thug's just like we see here.

Stop it now before these thugs start feeling invincible. Trump better find a solution, and fast.

And do you ever see neighborhood Black's come forward and condemn this lawlessness? Well, have we?

[TheGoldenGoose]

Progressive art rock from the 70`s ?
fukk, could be Genesis but not an official guess


worth more than 2 points bro`

the WHO ruled
fukk, I have probably heard of the bands too
Prism, the Call?

CCR and Stevie Ray Vaughan.

Final answer!

This site doesn’t allow me to give more than 2 points. Maybe because I’m not a pro. I don’t know.

Great guesses all. CCR in my top 10. Just saw John Fogerty again this year. Still touring and got his son playing lead guitar with him so maybe the legacy will continue.

FINAL HINT... this should give it to you... I am older than dirt, age 62 now... both bands lost key members to tragic accidents.

[eidolon]

Sad story indeed.

But the pendulum swings BOTH WAYS.

Many of you here are completely ignorant about the Police outright abuse in the 1960’s during the Black protests. Police turned FIREHOSES onto Black protesters. REALLY??? Do you really think that was an appropriate response???

C’mon man. You’re really comparing water buckets to fukking fire hoses???

So, yes, the pendulum has swung completely the other way.

And you don’t like it...
WELL DEAL WITH IT. AND LEARN SOME HISTORY ABOUT WHY THIS IS HAPPENING IN 2019.

Go back to eating your cockmeat-sandwich

[dlowilly]

I don’t have any other answers but I DO have Black friends. I’m not sure a lot of other White people posting in this Thread can say that. And my Black friends are VERY aware of their history all the way back to their African roots.

If your ancestors where hung in trees by the KKK with their cocks cut off and stuffed in their mouths you’d have an attitude problem too. Also I’d like to see some of you keyboard warriors in here take a Fire Hose shot in the chest, get slammed on the sidewalk, and get up and tell me it’s the same as getting a plastic bucket in the head. I don’t think so.

That's what it is though, history

If it didn't happen to you by the person you are taking out your frustrations on, then ur the illogical racist. If anyone has a right to be angry and rebellious, it's white people who right now are on the receiving end of insanely disproportionate crime at the hands of blacks, the same blacks who not only don't know any of that history you speak of but couldn't find sub saharan Africa on a map.

Instead of blacks and people like you making excuses for ridiculous behavior "cause a slavery n sheet", they should be thanking their lucky stars their ancestors got them here instead of rotting away back in the 3rd world right now. A guy in Somalia would probably be considered the town player if he had that red bucket that was thrown at the cop's head.

Also, how do you explain this same type of violent irrational black behavior in England or Sudan if it's attributable to the KKK or historic white oppression?

[ABEHONEST]

I don’t have any other answers but I DO have Black friends. I’m not sure a lot of other White people posting in this Thread can say that. And my Black friends are VERY aware of their history all the way back to their African roots.

If your ancestors where hung in trees by the KKK with their cocks cut off and stuffed in their mouths you’d have an attitude problem too. Also I’d like to see some of you keyboard warriors in here take a Fire Hose shot in the chest, get slammed on the sidewalk, and get up and tell me it’s the same as getting a plastic bucket in the head. I don’t think so.

So 60 and 100 some-odd year's ago? That's way to far back to even be relative to this modern world.

You are saying, cops/Whites, should allow Black's to break the law and rule our streets with lawlessness, right on front of our police officer's eyes. Allow our protector's to be embarrassed and abused in public?

Maybe it's time for Black's to stop acting [lying ]as if they are the victims? And then cry like babies when any incident or law breaking is shown on video, proving who the genuine abuser's are.
Black folks--and I've know some beautiful Black people--start owning up to your responsibilities and do what's right.

Obeying an officer, regardless of color, is the first correct step. Now let's see it.

[TheGoldenGoose]

Go back to eating your cockmeat-sandwich

Another keyboard warrior.

Big tough guy.

[TheGoldenGoose]

dlowilly & ABEHONEST...

Serious question about this serious problem so please answer honestly.

Do you have any Black friends? I’m talking about Blacks you hang with and talk with often. Not acquaintances or people you sometimes see or pass in a hallway. How many?

[allabout the $$$]

dlowilly & ABEHONEST...

Serious question about this serious problem so please answer honestly.

Do you have any Black friends? I’m talking about Blacks you hang with and talk with often. Not acquaintances or people you sometimes see or pass in a hallway. How many?

you said you are 62 so i highly doubt you talk to the younger generation that are committing these crimes. if the men you are speaking with are 45+ thats a different mentality and generation

[captrobey]

In fairness I guess my perception and attack on LE is more a general hatred for a public union that is pursuing exclusive use of force, additional laws and revenues and in many cases political ideology at taxpayer expense and zero recourse.

There are neighborhoods that have deteriorated into hopeless zones, and they are run by Democrats. Police unions, historically Democrats, love these zones because it calls for more cops, more pay, more resources and more money to make more arrests. It's a chicken/ egg game in sectors like that for over 60 years now. It's a self made problem. Sure, maybe some brother had a warrant for failure to appear...ok, what's the underlying charge? Loitering? Selling onies? Pot possession? Seriously, why is KE filling our courts with petty misdemeanor charges??? Because it's all about justifying their salaries and pension. Hire as many minorities or females as you can today and LE gets more resources....city's pass new laws for PC so female officers can initiate stops with less fear...the result? Innocent civilians having their bundle of rights constantly shrunk so LE can keep growing.

Enough is enough....LE needs to be broken up, no more unions, no more city policing w arms, no more petty bullshit laws serving as PC for higher charges.

Remember i live in what at one time was the #1 crime city in the USA . So i have seen a lot here . The police here now do try. And they do go after the ones selling drugs on the corners. They need to start there because they are shooting at each other trying to take over a street corner. The kids are running wild because no parents are watching them. We had tape around both our cars about half a year ago because of a drive by. At least here the police do not seem to be going after the lesser crimes . Bit again idk if it will even matter at this point it is just so bad . I am just glad our immediate neighbors are good we watch out for each other.

And remember one of the Village People was a police officer and he seemed nice.

[dlowilly]

dlowilly & ABEHONEST...

Serious question about this serious problem so please answer honestly.

Do you have any Black friends? I’m talking about Blacks you hang with and talk with often. Not acquaintances or people you sometimes see or pass in a hallway. How many?

Not trying to be a smart ass, but I will answer that when you answer my question of how you explain the same problematic black behavior around the world if here it's due to the KKK and white oppression

[JIBBBY]

I talked about a similar problem on the Trump thread.
A vast majority of Black's are the very worst racist. Don't worry about White's, we are not ate-up with street-group racism as you see here. Especially when it's right in your face.
It must be stopped, And many times, this leads to a policeman being murdered by a cowardly thug. Thug's just like we see here.

Stop it now before these thugs start feeling invincible. Trump better find a solution, and fast.

And do you ever see neighborhood Black's come forward and condemn this lawlessness? Well, have we?

There are many hard working blacks that don't support this behavior.. Old school black folks also from what I've seen. You live long enough in life you begin to understand how law and order is important in any society..

I know many old black folks that are just cool and against this crap.. Church going folks.. Younger generations with no father figures good luck.. They will hate on cops and do this when given the chance..

Media doesn't help either when all you see is WHITE cops shooting and killing young black thugs on the news. So called race injustices always draws top ratings in the liberal run news. They look to run it as much as possible when stories break for ratings..

[TheGoldenGoose]

Not trying to be a smart ass, but I will answer that when you answer my question of how you explain the same problematic black behavior around the world if here it's due to the KKK and white oppression

I see you mentioned the U.K. and Sudan earlier. And I’m not trying to be a smart ass either but have no idea what problems you are talking about that are happening in the U.K. and Sudan. If it’s current, within the last week, I wouldn’t know, been in our casino suite with the wife and don’t care to watch TV. So please explain.

[TheGoldenGoose]

you said you are 62 so i highly doubt you talk to the younger generation that are committing these crimes. if the men you are speaking with are 45+ thats a different mentality and generation

Well, you would be wrong because my Black friends have children that I see and talk with weekly so there are a couple of generations involved where apparently you have zero contact with any Blacks and frankly I have no idea how you can contribute anything of value to this discussion.

[dlowilly]

Not just England and Sudan, I'm talking about around the world. Corruption, violence, rape, theft, and so on. Law enforcement and blacks disproportionately go at it worldwide. If that behavior in the US is because of the KKK history and historic white oppression, what causes it where those variables are absent? The answer is it isn't because of those variables, it's because they tend towards lawlessness and violence, especially now it's enabled by false leftist narratives.

Also, are you winning? What do you play?

[allabout the $$$]

Well, you would be wrong because my Black friends have children that I see and talk with weekly so there are a couple of generations involved where apparently you have zero contact with any Blacks and frankly I have no idea how you can contribute anything of value to this discussion.

lets see i have black friends and date minority women. So you obviously have zero clue here buddy and all this younger generation knows is whats happened in the last 10-20 years not in the 50's and 60's. i live in NY and have zero contact with blacks go enjoy your wife and your suite because you have obviously drank too much tonight

[TheGoldenGoose]

It’s been a good week +$1400 only played Baccarat. Not anything to brag about, I’m sure you high rollers are laughing at that number, but I am not greedy and will put up a few pics when I get home tomorrow. Yes I am sipping my last Fishers Island Lemonade (9%ABV) so aatm$$$ did nail that one!

[ABEHONEST]

It’s been a good week +$1400 only played Baccarat. Not anything to brag about, I’m sure you high rollers are laughing at that number, but I am not greedy and will put up a few pics when I get home tomorrow. Yes I am sipping my last Fishers Island Lemonade (9%ABV) so aatm$$$ did nail that one!

Personally, I would never scoff at 1400 in a week. Solid hit. Congrats. and the way you did win, I don't see how?
A game where you buck the house?

[PittsburghPlayer]

This site doesn’t allow me to give more than 2 points. Maybe because I’m not a pro. I don’t know.
both bands lost key members to tragic accidents.

was joking about the points, if I could give mine all away I would - not saying that they are useless - I just put my energy elsewhere (and for 4 years that was being depressed out of my head as a result of some heavy shit - making effort now to put it behind me and why I detest violence, and no longer a fan of the crimjustsys and or heat)

so, Lynyrd Skynyrd
and
going to use my final life line and go to "google" and get back to you after the commercial break!

[ABEHONEST]

Jibbby says: There are many hard working blacks that don't support this behavior.. Old school black folks also from what I've seen. You live long enough in life you begin to understand how law and order is important in any society..

I know many old black folks that are just cool and against this crap.. Church going folks
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Here's my problem with that scenario; Those nicer-kinder black folks seldom get involved.
Some are scared and worried about some possible retaliation; some are still remembering how tough life was on their people, even if it was 150 years ago, which, I suppose, dampens their incentive to stand up to what is right in today's world?
All self-centered excuses, to me. Not all of those Blacks you mention, of course, but where do you ever witness it in public?

Hero's stand up; mice stay hidden.

[JIBBBY]

Jibbby says: There are many hard working blacks that don't support this behavior.. Old school black folks also from what I've seen. You live long enough in life you begin to understand how law and order is important in any society..

I know many old black folks that are just cool and against this crap.. Church going folks
________________________________________ ______________________________________-
Here's my problem with that scenario; Those nicer-kinder black folks seldom get involved.
Some are scared and worried about some possible retaliation; some are still remembering how tough life was on their people, even if it was 150 years ago, which, I suppose, dampens their incentive to stand up to what is right in today's world?
All self-centered excuses, to me. Not all of those Blacks you mention, of course, but where do you ever witness it in public?

Hero's stand up; mice stay hidden.

They have no platform to speak out on ABE, liberal news wont cover those older good black folks because it goes against their race baiting agenda and news coverage.

I think many would speak up and have but just aren't heard..

You ask how I know these good older black folks, I managed many apartment buildings in South Central for a good portion of my 20's and early 30's working for Playa Vista Property Management located in Marina Del Rey, California.. Section 8 buildings all black residents.. I got to speak and befriend many black folks in the hood during those years. Remains friends with many still today. Went to an all black Church for a short time also back in the day. Got to see first hand how they live and think.

I stay out of the hood today. That's where I draw my conclusions Abe in my above statements..

[TheMetsSuck]

Embarrassing.. Unbelievable!!!

Thugs and punks... It's all over the news now..

Those Cops should not have to endure that.. Fire those cops for being so passive..

I can't believe they didn't have the authority to do something in that situation.. NY is liberal but come on man!!!!

One of the cops was 3 months out of the academy and the other only 1 year. If I was in their situation I'd probably do the same thing. You are two white cops in Harlem getting buckets of water thrown on you by like 20 punks while another 50 are videotaping it laughing. They are behind enemy lines. I don't think either of them wanted to be headline news or start a riot with so many onlookers over being doused in water. Also, it was like 100 degrees that day and probably felt like 120 in those uniforms. With social media and camera phones these days I think they played that rather cooly. Get em another day with backup....

[slambam]

Yep, cops are definitely the problem...

https://twitter.com/NYCPBA/status/1153710270973390849?s=19

[JIBBBY]

One of the cops was 3 months out of the academy and the other only 1 year. If I was in their situation I'd probably do the same thing. You are two white cops in Harlem getting buckets of water thrown on you by like 20 punks while another 50 are videotaping it laughing. They are behind enemy lines. I don't think either of them wanted to be headline news or start a riot with so many onlookers over being doused in water. Also, it was like 100 degrees that day and probably felt like 120 in those uniforms. With social media and camera phones these days I think they played that rather cooly. Get em another day with backup....

Cops should not cower away and give up ground while being shamed and assaulted like that.. You hold your ground and call for back up, you draw your weapon and face the threats until back up comes.

By doing what those cops did, that give the street thugs more power and confidence to do even more harm to cops in the future, like instead dumping water on them maybe it will be acid or gasoline next time. Maybe instead of throwing a bucket maybe it will be a rock next time.

[bigtymer56]

They have no platform to speak out on ABE, liberal news wont cover those older good black folks because it goes against their race baiting agenda and news coverage.

I think many would speak up and have but just aren't heard..

You ask how I know these good older black folks, I managed many apartment buildings in South Central for a good portion of my 20's and early 30's working for Playa Vista Property Management located in Marina Del Rey, California.. Section 8 buildings all black residents.. I got to speak and befriend many black folks in the hood during those years. Remains friends with many still today. Went to an all black Church for a short time also back in the day. Got to see first hand how they live and think.

I stay out of the hood today. That's where I draw my conclusions Abe in my above statements..

Guy talks about black people like we're not human.

[JIBBBY]

Guy talks about black people like we're not human.

Blacks are human what are you talking about?

Black Hood people on welfare that don't work absolutely act and think different then urban city working class white folks on a day to day basis.. That's just a fact. That's all I'm saying..

I can give you 100 examples of that..

[ABEHONEST]

Blacks are human what are you talking about?

Black Hood people on welfare that don't work absolutely act and think different then urban city working class white folks on a day to day basis.. That's just a fact. That's all I'm saying..

I can give you 100 examples of that..

There is no doubt, in today's world, compared to 1980 and even 1990, I see some very sharp Black individuals. But many of the rest of the, not so skilled, or non-working black's, will bring trouble, in many instances.
Their biggest problem? They lack genuine hero's, volunteering to come forward and explain to them--and yes, in those dangerous ghettos and troubled areas of large cities--when they are right and when they, on the other hand, are definitely wrong.
You never resist an officer of the law's commands, whether you agree to his demands or not. He is a highly trained police officer.
Train your black's to stay cool and show respect. yes respect, because that officer, as I said before, is working to protect you day in day out, and his job is one of the most dangerous job's in the world.
They need to hear that, also.

So now I say, where is Barrack; where is Micheal Jordan: Jim Brown [he does help blacks a bunch], and Kareem Jabbar?
Every once in awhile, they should volunteer to make visits to troubled black neighborhood's and listen to their grievances. Stand on the street corner so you can be heard. These are your people and they need you for guidance.
Meanwhile, as I said before, teach them where they have been right and especially where they have been wrong.
You fix that second wrong and miracles will happen. Doing this, will save many policemen's lives, as well as lives from your black neighborhood's.

[JIBBBY]

^^ Yep Abe.. Cops have a tough job and they don't deserve black ghetto brothers dumping water or throwing empty buckets at or on their heads.

I'm reading some arrests were already made which is nice to see.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/water-on-nypd-officers-suspect-arrested-today-dousing-officers-with-water-identified-courtney-thompson-2019-07-24/

[ABEHONEST]

^^ Yep Abe.. Cops have a tough job and they don't deserve black ghetto brothers dumping water or throwing empty buckets at or on their heads.

I'm reading some arrests were already made which is nice to see.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/water-o...on-2019-07-24/

Good deal. We can probably thank Giuliani?