KVB: All "racially charged" comments being attributed to Trump are only half comments and statements taken out of context to make it look like the President is racist.
I agree at 100%.
I agree at 100%.
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dems could easily win the election if they weren't so f'n stupid, but once the race is head to head, Trump will easily destroy their bullshit platform based on open borders, socialism ideas like government-run "free health care for all" and free healthcare for all illegal aliens, the green new deal, abolishing ICE (and perhaps even the whole homeland security department), etc. etc. Instead of being a reasonable alternative to Trump, they are trying to paint themselves as more "progressive" than the fuksticks they are running against, trying to outdo one another..... That slate of candidates is a disgrace.....
Trump will lose the popular vote thanks to Cali and NY once again, but doesn't give a flying liplock on a fukstick about it, as that doesn't decide the election.....
ads showing wetbacks bum rushing the border and showing his opponent raising his/her hand in response to supporting "medicare for all" will have independents throwing their votes in trump's hat in the key states.Comment -
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KVB, everybody made their minds up about whether Trump was racist or not in 2016. Doubt many people have changed their minds either way in the last 2+ years.
This election will come down to whether independents and Dems want more of the same or not. Also if the economy starts going south, of course as well.
Dems voted for the same in 2016 with Hillary and lost.
See if they do it again in 2020.Comment -
Yes good observation. Trump supporters are quite vocal with their support for the Donald. I think they underestimate by quite a bit how many Americans despise their president and want him gone as soon as possible. I think the only way he wins is if the Dems penetrate up badly with their choice for Prez. Oprah Winfrey? Really?
I gotta say though, as an outsider and non American Trump is great entertainment. Nevermind that he looks like a complete ass and a fool.Comment -
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This has shown to not be true. There are far more who will vote Trump and never mention it in any poll.
The Trump supporters are silenced by the liberal polls as well.
2016 showed just how that works. It's amazing anyone thinks Trump voters will be apathetic, or surprised.
The Dems provide no option, policy, or strategy.
They give voters no choice. As of now, it's a Trump bet or pass and value will erode from here.Comment -
I don't know (care?) if he is racist at his core. Plenty of people of his age that I respect are to some extent. No use fighting that. They'll be dead soon anyway.
But, and it's a big BUT, I don't think anyone apart from active Trump supporters agree with you that he definitely is not racist.
Coming back at me insisting again that he is not just illustrates my point. Big time Trump supporters are not actually his advantage this time around, they are actually his achilles heel. Driving fence sitters the other way.
But you aren't going to see that until it's way too late. Just like the Hillary crowd last time..Comment -
Say what: "I gotta say though, as an outsider and non American Trump is great entertainment. Nevermind that he looks like a complete ass and a fool."
He's the smartest Prez we ever had. Who's your smart Prez?
I just want to compare.
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Never will happen, OPT.
You want to see the most high percentage of racism?
Look what radical black people, in general, have stated about, well, on controversial confrontations with our police.
That thug a few years ago in St Louis, for one.
The big fellow, Gardner in New York.
That's two in recent years. And what did these black folk's see with their blind/biased eyes?
Most saw the complete opposite of common sense and logical thinking.
Now, this is so dumb, no healthy minded person, of any color, would believe these two examples above were not guilty at 100%. First of all, when "YOU RESIST ARREST," or resist an armed police officer, what part of logical thinking are you processing?
That's been the very type scenario that has promoted so many police officers being murdered these past few years.
And also, the person's that initiated the resisting, can get shot and beat-up. And plenty have, too.
Commonsense tells you that can likely happen. Use it!
Now, the mindset of so many minorities, is to question the officer first, and then, go right into the next step and start resisting. Look, being a police officer is one of the most dangerous jobs in the world. And when these officers go into known dangerous neighborhoods, don't think their senses are not on high-alert. I guarantee you they are! And they just may have "quick-trigger-mentality?"
This situation is nerve racking for both parties, the neighborhood and the officers involved.
We damn sure do not want any suspect in that area, resisting arrest. If they do, they must accept the total responsibility of the next possible event. And so must the neighborhood, many times, too.
This bs was initiated many years ago by a few minorities and has evolved into something like a natural instinct. Like, resist first. And sure, things can get ugly right quickly.
If these same minded people do not know the dangers by now of resisting, they still take on the full responsibility.
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Lets not forget that 50% of the the U.S. stayed home in 2016. Mostly poor and. minorities. If just 2% more show up in the swing states it will hurt Trump. He really needs to tone down the rhetoric. Dont wake that sleeping giant.Comment -
Not sure whats not to see. Do you think minorities will stay home again or are they being motivated to come out ?
Those campaign rallies are the same people from 2016.Those people would still support him if he shot someone. Im talking about independents in swing states that he won by less than 1%.
Its simple math. He is motivating young minorities to vote. That group usually doesnt. They are now.
25% always vote (D)
24% always vote (R)
The remainder is what decides Presidential elections. That is the group that matters.Comment -
You are missing my point entirely.
The Dem racist campaign slogan is not the point, it's just one of many examples.
The point is the media is backfiring in their agenda and it benefits Trump.
Since before the election the MSM in America had been getting it wrong about Trump, but beating the wrong points so hard that ratings dropped and shifted because the American public is getting tired of the rhetoric. Kavanaugh another good example, it was a bad look for the Dems.
There is a shift in sentiment, ratings, and Presidential approval ratings at a time where the Democratic party is falling apart, scrambling for a candidate.
Trump is gaining ground, not losing it.
The Dem playbook is used up.
Also, you are definitely wrong about what the public thinks about Trump being racist. Again, they know he's not and they know it's a media campaign to paint him as such. It has nothing to do with active supporters, it's the rest that are turning. It's not about racism, it's about bogus headlines from sources that are losing public tgrust and support.
If it happened now, it would be a Trump landslide.Comment -
I'm pretty sure (finally) this is the Dodgers season to take it all.....LOS ANGELES DODGERS +300 is an absolute steal
Bet em like ya gotta pair...
Throttle em hard...
Whistle Dixie til the Crown comes home..........
We're gonna have the hap, hap, happiest World Series since
Bing Crosby tap-danced with Danny Fukkin Kaye.
And when Santa squeezes his fat white ass down that chimney
come Christmas mornin,he's gonna find the jolliest bunch of assholes
this side of the nuthouse....Comment -
And, OPT., do not the majority of people lean to their color, especially in desperate situations or in controversial scenarios?
Yep, we human's are almost all [what, 95%?] guilty and normal at the same time, too. History has easily proven that point.Comment -
Well seeing as you started out with the point that Trump is obviously not a racist...
I guess i somehow did miss this point which was not there! I do like that your opinion has now morphed into a re-work of my response to you though!. Well almost, just written on opposite day.
Anyway, good luck. Sounds like you are pretty sure it's all wrapped up secure and in no doubt!
But don't be shocked if you get the same surprise the over confident Clinton crowd got last time. Telling the people you want to come over to your side they are morons didn't work for Clinton supporters, and I cannot see it working for for Trump supporters this time..Comment -
OPT, you're educated guy, but seeing where your logical thinking as to where Trump will not be elected, is surprising. So you base that decision on a few observations? Just give your best three and I will try to make good sense of them?
Since it's me, you will be the underdog on the convincing. But you have a chance at least.
Kinda like what Lloyd said when asking Mary Swanson about his love chances:
“So you're telling me there's a chance!”
* OPT, do not take that personal. It's just a joke.Comment -
I thought he was a sure thing until recent months.
OPT, you're educated guy, but seeing where your logical thinking as to where Trump will not be elected, is surprising. So you base that decision on a few observations? Just give your best three and I will try to make good sense of them?
Since it's me, you will be the underdog on the convincing. But you have a chance at least.
Kinda like what Lloyd said when asking Mary Swanson about his love chances:
“So you're telling me there's a chance!”
* OPT, do not take that personal. It's just a joke.
Turning it into an Us v Them battle worked when he was the underdog.
But coming from a place of power, and telling the fence sitters who will decide the election they are dumbasses for imaging Trump might be racist is the exact thing I believe is changing his chances.
And rusted on Trump supporters who will keep making the same sort of statements are his real liability. There is no decent opposition to beat him. Only his own people can lose this one for him. And they seem to be working hard to do that right now to me.
Doubt he could lose without his biggest supporters belittling the people Trump needs to swing his way.
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Well, surely, we most know that the D&3, is that it, are glory-hound publicity fools?I thought he was a sure thing until recent months.
Turning it into an Us v Them battle worked when he was the underdog.
But coming from a place of power, and telling the fence sitters who will decide the election they are dumbasses for imaging Trump might be racist is the exact thing I believe is changing his chances.
And rusted on Trump supporters who will keep making the same sort of statements are his real liability. There is no decent opposition to beat him. Only his own people can lose this one for him. And they seem to be working hard to do that right now to me.
Doubt he could lose without his biggest supporters belittling the people Trump needs to swing his way.
They help Trump with their crazy illogical fantasies, about how to make America better. Better for them if they win with Socialism. That's a real fantasy that will never happen, so they are done and shall never be elected again.
Well, if any one does get back in politics it may be way down the road?
I don't recall in what context Trump called someone or a group of people, Dumbasses? He is a NY street talker and no politician, though, so he probably did refer to some people in that manner? However, most of his fans love that about him.Comment -
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Like I keep saying, over and over....
It's early but the bet now is Trump or pass as the line is going to move.
That is a far cry from saying it's all wrapped up and there is no doubt, I never said that. If so, I wouldn't suggest a pass.
If the election were today, of course Trump would win, but I've acknowledged that it's early in giving my opinion of where the number will go.Comment -
Trump may be charged with murder? Wait and see
Trump has three major parts to his being.
1. Genius
2. Mastermind
3. A Killer who takes no prisoners.
His daddy taught him well. Now, again, he relishes his biggest victory since the
2016 election.
The latest news: The democrats said they would not go forward with those murder charges.
Though, this is rather odd? Evidently, any murder victim's such as this entire Democrat Party, have finally learned their lesson and will not dare risk the chance of hearing this song... "kill me once, kill me twice and kill me once again," after this victorious day, believing, now, this will likely soothe president Trump with so much gratitude, his killer instinct may not appear again til after the next election?
No guarantee, though.
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I agree, the Dems are going to lose this themselves. Trump is beatable. Very beatable. But like usual the Dems are all over the place with completely unrealistic goals while at the same time, eating each other alive.
One thing about the Republicans: When they get their daily memo of what to say, they stick to it. Now, as a party that is great, but as a way to run a country, not so much.
Then again, has Trump won over more people than he has lost? Even my parents, who are from a military town where there use to be posted signs by the city itself to vote Republican because Democrats wanted to close the Air Base, hate Trump. That says a lot. They like Pence and wish he would run, but Trump they hate. So there is that.
I said the same thing last election about Hilary. My wife is a Liberal as it comes, as well as her friends. A real bunch of woman that SBR would totally hate. I won't get into that though. Anyway, they hated Hilary. Just hated her. And if a bunch of women like that hated Hills, man-o-man she wasn't doing something right.
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Maybe they think Trump is so beatable, and that the media campaign will work, that now is the time to to slip in the unrealistic.
To some on the left there is no compromise or long game, they want radical shift and want it now, not interested in the middle ground rubbing compromises that multiple steps to the goal would take.
If hatred for Trump can shift votes, and the MSM can make it look so bleak that people get desperate, then why not be waiting with the radical left ideas to catch the votes.
It's not working, and likely won't, Trump is mast campaigner and still a powerhouse today and the independent contingency isn't likely to go so far left, especially after the GOP paints it so ridiculous.Comment -
Well, I just checked a couple Books, thinking, they surely have raised Trump's odds. Nope.
What do they think they know?
Are the praying for the almighty bullet? Crazy.
Again, he just may blow this Democrat Party to bits next election?
As of now , I see no way any candidate can even muster up a serious threat against Trump.
It's the bullet, or it's over?
Pray for Trump.
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It has nothing to do with who you back. The MSM has grown for sure but it's really the same few sources often carrying smaller outlets that fit the viewpoint.
The MSM is the wide reaching media that include the major Networks and had even branched into the Cable networks because of how big cable grew in broadcasting.
I think the big problem, and what gave the MSM the credibility to run the campaigns like they do, is that it it began as network programming wrapped around local and then national news broadcasts. ABC, CBS, NBC and were all centered around the evening and nightly news, with late night comedy also a competition grounds. Primetime entertainment was meant to keep the viewer there and also competitive.
But now, you can close your eyes and disguise the voices, and still be able to determine what news network you are listening to, just based on what's reported and said.
It's no longer news. It's editorializing, spin, whatever you want to call it.
But they still maintain that old credibility of being a "news outlet" even if they have more competition with cable channels. In big scheme of things, Fox came later and I believe files as entertainment, not news, like the others still do.
That filing by the main Networks, to be credible news, gives them false credibility in today's environment.
And what of the primetime programming? Again, cable has added so much in competition, but studios tend to be liberal, and have take up with the anti Trump agenda.
And what of the late night comedy? Well, that's even more popular, including the cable channels drawing even more viewers who now use those shows as their news and do I really need get into the agenda adopted by nearly every comedy show on television? It's turned far away from mocking, and become political.
That alone is indicative of being MSM. So, you see, the MSM has shifted but has it's roots in the old network news outlets that garnered so much influence and credibility over generations. It now has much more corporate backing.
Ratings, though, are showing a shift. The people aren't buying it like they used to, probably because it smells and tastes so bad anymore. CNN has gone too far and even many democrats realize it.
When it comes to the actual news given to us, it's another post altogether. But let me just start by emphasizing that there are very few actual news sources...AP, Reuters, Dow Jones, etc.
When a story is run, it gets picked up and repeated across the nation in MSM newsprint, internet sites, and of course the networks. True or not, this repeating and spreading gives it credibility. When people see multiple sources, it adds credibility, even though those multiple sources got it from the same single source. This is often exploited.
Finally, other news sources, more political and fringe on both sides, have been making there way into the mainstream thanks to the internet. But it is still the MSM and it's sites that carry those smaller outlets that make it happen. Think corporate partner websites promoting other websites (i.e. "Mainstream" Yahoo relaying Huffington Post viewpoints.)
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KVB, you are from Southern Indiana? Does the name Damon Bailey strike a chord?Comment -
Good post KVB
When something big happens, like today, I like to go from Fox to CNN and back, and it's amazing the difference.
Fox totally pro Trump (except Shep). And CNN use to be middle left, but has just completely lost their shit and is way Left now. Too bad.Comment
