give me the one paragraph summary of what happened out there, snowy
believes ANTIFA Australia behind it and 2nd shooter..
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MaltedHopsFrenzy
SBR Hall of Famer
10-08-10
8944
#6
Originally posted by Snowball
Who is Brad Johnson?
Man! He's really let himself go since taking the Bucs to the Super Bowl.....
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5mike5
SBR Aristocracy
09-21-11
52036
#7
Take off the tin foil hat
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jtoler
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
12-17-13
30967
#8
...
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HurryUpAndDrink
SBR Posting Legend
08-23-13
13017
#9
Originally posted by jtoler
all these yrs later and its impossible to awaken sheep snowy. people dont realize the facade of life they live in that the media isnt obligated to tell u the truth that the media is allied to the "gov't" which is nothing more than a collage of corporations its legal to stage fake acts and pretend they are real
+1
it saddens me
some people take it personal, or as an insult when you try to wake them up... they think you hate America or what it represents
but sharing these things is made out of love and lots of caring, people don't realize humanity is at stake, we are on fast track path to destruction, and mostly out of ignorance, because if all of us would WAKE UP AND STAND UP TO THESE CRIMINALS, WE WOULD TAKE OVER IN DAYS. DAYS.
That's why their main goal is to keep us fighting at ourselves, they fear us.
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Big Bear
SBR Aristocracy
11-01-11
43253
#10
Originally posted by jtoler
all these yrs later and its impossible to awaken sheep snowy. people dont realize the facade of life they live in that the media isnt obligated to tell u the truth that the media is allied to the "gov't" which is nothing more than a collage of corporations its legal to stage fake acts and pretend they are real
Exactly
this is why I dont watch the news
they only tell you what they want you to know
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KVB
SBR Aristocracy
05-29-14
74817
#11
It was strange.
It's all in that in game thread here at SBR.
I was listening to the police scanner at the time. I could here the communications back and forth. Police were sent to active shooter sites where there were no shooters, and hadn't been.
It was really confusing for sometime. There were false reports coming in, and positive reports of gunmen that were "never there."
In one call, the officer says the casino manager and patron say no shooter was ever at one of the scenes, yet another call at the same scene requesting ambulance for a guy shot in the leg. Can't quite remember but it was far from the actual shooting. It was at another property altogether.
Some weird things on the scanner that night for sure, as it was going down live.
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Shute
SBR Posting Legend
03-20-17
11835
#12
If this is true then there had to be more people involved
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Auto Donk
SBR Aristocracy
09-03-13
43558
#13
Originally posted by Snowball
it's not long and worth hearing. nothing i can write is better than hearing it.
click this to listen with no video
ok, read the entire report..... the interior doors that connect the suites (on the inside of the rooms) at mandalay bay must not require you to deadlock them to actually lock the door, but apparently lock automatically when you close them....
I was even going to call MB and ask someone, but figured they are still so freaked out over there that they might send either a mob guy to rough me up or the cops.... either one of which I have no interest in seeing on my door step....
we know this, however, that the last action of the doors in each of the rooms (as seen in the printed out door activity reports that are both in the appendix to the report), about 20 mins before he started shooting, was to flip the deadbolts on the each of the exterior doors from the inside.... (last activity in each of the logs prior to the door in 32-135 being blown open by the cops was being locked from the inside).... In other words, unless the "second person" allegedly involved in the shooting climbed out of one of the holes in the windows, and spiderman'd his ass down the side of the building, or went rick moranis and shrunk himself and hid in the room, he/she would have still been in the room when the cops blasted their way in -- he never left.... the door activity shows us this.
how did Paddock end up locked in one room (32-135) such that the cops had to blast open the interior suite door of 32-134 to enter that room? obviously, after shooting for the final time in room 32-134, he exited that room through the interior suite doors, and probably closed both of them behind himself, as he re-entered room 32-135 for the final time..... and the doors automatically locked such that you have to be inside the specific suite they belong to to open them.....
no way the fbi misses this or doesn't explain it if the interior suite connecting door in room 32-134 was deadbolted from inside that room, and paddock winds up on the other side of it, locked out of it, dead......
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Auto Donk
SBR Aristocracy
09-03-13
43558
#14
just sent an email to brad johnson and his company copying the post above......
be interesting to see if he/his company respond.....
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thechaoz
SBR Posting Legend
10-23-09
12154
#15
Originally posted by Shute
If this is true then there had to be more people involved
There wasn't.
It's video documented, tracked through cell phones, internet use, traffic cams, witness testimony, gun and ammo purchase records, bank transactions, self gun shot wounds with dna/blood/ballistic/crime scene evidence.
The government wouldn't spend years on a conspiracy to have several dozen fans of hick music slaughtered in Vegas.
Truly brutal and sad. If you ever want a dose of reality check the video on like leak of the guy running around to the victims or even some of the parkland videos.
It truly is horrifying.
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TheMoneyShot
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
02-14-07
28672
#16
I said it before... and I'll say it again...
People everywhere in Vegas.... and the guy moves heavy weaponry into a hotel room. lol
Someone had to know something with all the security cameras.
Is everyone beating off and not doing their job? lol
A 64 year old dude is so calm and calculated? Give me a fukking break.
Guy couldn't even get his dikk up.... but he was able to outsmart the entire staff moving all this heavy weaponry?
The entire thing is a lie.
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Auto Donk
SBR Aristocracy
09-03-13
43558
#17
Originally posted by thechaoz
There wasn't.
It's video documented, tracked through cell phones, internet use, traffic cams, witness testimony, gun and ammo purchase records, bank transactions, self gun shot wounds with dna/blood/ballistic/crime scene evidence.
The government wouldn't spend years on a conspiracy to have several dozen fans of hick music slaughtered in Vegas.
Truly brutal and sad. If you ever want a dose of reality check the video on like leak of the guy running around to the victims or even some of the parkland videos.
It truly is horrifying.
yep, sadly, this guy acted alone
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Auto Donk
SBR Aristocracy
09-03-13
43558
#18
Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
I said it before... and I'll say it again...
People everywhere in Vegas.... and the guy moves heavy weaponry into a hotel room. lol
Someone had to know something with all the security cameras.
Is everyone beating off and not doing their job? lol
A 64 year old dude is so calm and calculated? Give me a fukking break.
Guy couldn't even get his dikk up.... but he was able to outsmart the entire staff moving all this heavy weaponry?
The entire thing is a lie.
dude, they posted a video montage of every f'n suitcase being brought in, by him either alone, or accompanied by bellhops, not long after he did this shit.......
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Auto Donk
SBR Aristocracy
09-03-13
43558
#19
never got a call or email from ol brad johnson.....
but this guy does a good job of narrating the entire sordid stockpiling carried out by the shooter.....
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sourtwist
SBR Hall of Famer
11-10-12
9364
#20
Look up the four seasons hotel
The plot thickens....trust me
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Auto Donk
SBR Aristocracy
09-03-13
43558
#21
looked it up.... all I found on my computer was me nailin' a bad ass blonde at the austin four seasons back in 1999......
could you be a little more specific, please.....
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bonzaii
SBR Hall of Famer
07-07-17
5000
#22
layoff the crack.
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Auto Donk
SBR Aristocracy
09-03-13
43558
#23
on a serious note, the four seasons connection consisted of little more than a helicopter reflection off of some windows up above the shooter's room, that were not shot out, and some speculation about the saudi co-ownership of the four seasons floors in MB.....
no proof any saudi vip was in the hotel, no "shotgun" blasts or other gunfire from those floors.....
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pimike
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
03-23-08
37140
#24
This was a Saudi attempt assignation. It went bad.
Feds had to blame somebody
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Auto Donk
SBR Aristocracy
09-03-13
43558
#25
how does the idiot sluffing all those guns in/suitcases out of his room over and over play into this? and him lying dead in his room?
a true mechanic needs one, maybe two guns at most, to do a hit.....
need to see a lot more evid of any such scheme..... door lock evid and the security guy's testimony, and that of the guy sent up to fix the door that was L-bracket screwed shut, don't mention any fleeing saudis or other evidence of a botched assassination attempt....
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TheMoneyShot
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
02-14-07
28672
#26
Originally posted by Auto Donk
dude, they posted a video montage of every f'n suitcase being brought in, by him either alone, or accompanied by bellhops, not long after he did this shit.......
Again... I still don't believe it... most of the video footage isn't time stamped... everything will always remain questionable.
Footage could of been from the numerous times he was a customer.... not the week or day of shooting.
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Auto Donk
SBR Aristocracy
09-03-13
43558
#27
Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
Again... I still don't believe it... most of the video footage isn't time stamped... everything will always remain questionable.
Footage could of been from the numerous times he was a customer.... not the week or day of shooting.
let's put it this way, from a different angle, mgm and its insurer are about to pay 800 million bucks to settle all the claims against the hotel, for not providing adequate security and allowing this fukhead to traipse in and out of their fukkin' casino/hotel with 26 machine guns and a .308 bolt action (that he tried to blow up the maccaarran jet fuel tanks with)....
if it was some sort of well-planned saudi assasination, an fbi sting, or whatever, that was totally concealed from them, it would make their case not to have to drop hundreds of millions stronger..... let a doofy old bastard do it on his own, you're clearly negligent..... let a bunch of spooks from the cia, professionals from the fbi, saudi intelligence, or nsa dupe you, well, you never had a chance against them, thus no negligence.....
they have no incentive whatsoever to put out old video of this guy..... the vids are legit, he really did bring all that shit into MB, and really did fire all those rounds.....
most telling of all is the door lock evidence; both main doors to his two rooms locked before the shooting, ten mins apart, and about 20-30 mins before the shooting started, FROM THE INSIDE, and were never opened again until AFTER the make shift tactical team blew then one to 32-135 about an hour later..... and no one came bolting out of the other room at that point, escaping the scene.....
no one left the rooms.... no witnesses -- primarily the two guys getting blasted at in the hall way -- saw anyone leave the rooms. the evidence tells us no one did.... they didn't climb out the fukkin' window and parachute the penetrate down.... they did'n't rappel down the side of the building, they didn't hide in the attic, or flush themselves down the shitter, and they weren't in the room when the cops busted in........ the mother fukker acted alone....
all the reports of "other shooters" have never been borne out by a single shred of physical evidence.... no empty casings picked up by any of the 21000 surviving concert goers or any of the hundreds of people scouring the site the next day for evidence....
it's hard to accept that one lone deranged sick mother fukker could pull this off, but he did....
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Believe_EMT
SBR Wise Guy
03-31-19
508
#28
brad seems like a stand up guy
except for the part where he is preying upon the low intelligence of some americans to build his celebrity whilst trampling upon the memories of the victims and also urinating on the emotional and mental state of survivors and the friends and families of all
nice guy
just accept that we, as a society, are vulnerable to crazy fukks that get their hands on guns.
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Auto Donk
SBR Aristocracy
09-03-13
43558
#29
Originally posted by Believe_EMT
brad seems like a stand up guy
except for the part where he is preying upon the low intelligence of some americans to build his celebrity whilst trampling upon the memories of the victims and also urinating on the emotional and mental state of survivors and the friends and families of all
nice guy
just accept that we, as a society, are vulnerable to crazy fukks that get their hands on guns.
i was a little disappointed that a former top level spook couldn't figure out the door lock evidence, and tried to insinuate that there was someone else in the room(s) with Paddock at the time of the shooting.....
maybe it was david f'n blaine.... vanishing into thin air behind those two deadbolted (from the inside) hotel room doors.....
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thomorino
Restricted User
06-01-17
45842
#30
Originally posted by Auto Donk
i was a little disappointed that a former top level spook couldn't figure out the door lock evidence, and tried to insinuate that there was someone else in the room(s) with Paddock at the time of the shooting.....
maybe it was david f'n blaine.... vanishing into thin air behind those two deadbolted (from the inside) hotel room doors.....
Not that I care its not that hard to figure out what likely happened in this shooting - the official story is laughable -Paddock had no motive or history of violence. He was also an intelligence asset and gun runner. Paddock was also a millionaire who worked for the Pentagon for years, he was a contractor, a gun runner, and he was supplying guns to the assassins.
There's no reason 1 person would bring all these guns in to carry a mass shooting if they were going to act alone - you can only fire one or at most 2 guns accurately at the same time.
Here's what likely happened.
The top of Manadaly Bay is owned by the 4 Season and top floors are owned by Saudi princes who are protected by 20-30 armed boyguards. There is a well known purge going on in Saudi Arabia that has involved wide spread assassination and arrests.
This was an assassination attempt that went bad. The attempt was on the Prince who suppose to be at Mandaly Bay - Paddock was the gun runner providing weapons to the assassins - when the shooting started they realized the target of the assassination attempt wasn't at the hotel and they tried to get him at other hotel in the area - which is why their were multiple reports of gunmen at different sites in vegas. The shooting into the crowd was done to distract the police and law enforcement officials so the assassins could get away, they needed to create a diversion. Prince Al-Waleed owned several of the upper floors of Mandaly Bay where some of the shots came from.
As for the claim that MGM and the 4 Seasons wouldn't pay out money in settlements and go along with the cover-up that is nonsense - these companies have 50 thousand insurance policies and the pay outs are write-offs.
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thomorino
Restricted User
06-01-17
45842
#31
Not that I care but the coup in Saudi Arabia is clearly supported by the US, which is likely why the assassination attempts were covered up, the media hasn't criticized the new leadership in Saudi Arabia at all despite the massive crackdown, knowing the new leaders are likely being supported by us.
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Auto Donk
SBR Aristocracy
09-03-13
43558
#32
Originally posted by thomorino
Not that I care its not that hard to figure out what likely happened in this shooting - the official story is laughable -Paddock had no motive or history of violence. He was also an intelligence asset and gun runner. Paddock was also a millionaire who worked for the Pentagon for years, he was a contractor, a gun runner, and he was supplying guns to the assassins.
There's no reason 1 person would bring all these guns in to carry a mass shooting if they were going to act alone - you can only fire one or at most 2 guns accurately at the same time.
Here's what likely happened.
The top of Manadaly Bay is owned by the 4 Season and top floors are owned by Saudi princes who are protected by 20-30 armed boyguards. There is a well known purge going on in Saudi Arabia that has involved wide spread assassination and arrests.
This was an assassination attempt that went bad. The attempt was on the Prince who suppose to be at Mandaly Bay - Paddock was the gun runner providing weapons to the assassins - when the shooting started they realized the target of the assassination attempt wasn't at the hotel and they tried to get him at other hotel in the area - which is why their were multiple reports of gunmen at different sites in vegas. The shooting into the crowd was done to distract the police and law enforcement officials so the assassins could get away, they needed to create a diversion. Prince Al-Waleed owned several of the upper floors of Mandaly Bay where some of the shots came from.
As for the claim that MGM and the 4 Seasons wouldn't pay out money in settlements and go along with the cover-up that is nonsense - these companies have 50 thousand insurance policies and the pay outs are write-offs.
wow... where to start.... gone bad? how? they shot up the upper floors and the guy wasn't there? to need a diversion after "going bad" and shots being fired, apparently, they shoot up a concert and kill the gun runner (or does he commit suicide) unlikely, and some how gets himself, dead, locked behind to doors deadbolted from the inside, and no one leaves the room....
or, does the attempt go bad without a shot being fired, but they decide to kill paddock and shoot up a concert as a diversion anyway?
none of these other teams of gunmen fire any shots?
where's the prince? what prince? (not the off duty security guy over at that other hotel, that was not MBS as some conspiracy nuts originally claim....
why no witness testimony about fleeing teams of assassins jumping in cars/vans/ for the bungled assassins
you say "when the shooting started, they realized the target wasn't there".... so where did these shots go? where were they fired from? why no witbnesses to them out of the thousands in the hotel/casino? where are the casings....
none of your story makes sense, particularly not with paddock ending up dead behind locked doors.....
I guess you contend the door lock evidence has been altered?
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thomorino
Restricted User
06-01-17
45842
#33
Originally posted by Auto Donk
wow... where to start.... gone bad? how? they shot up the upper floors and the guy wasn't there? to need a diversion after "going bad" and shots being fired, apparently, they shoot up a concert and kill the gun runner (or does he commit suicide) unlikely, and some how gets himself, dead, locked behind to doors deadbolted from the inside, and no one leaves the room....
or, does the attempt go bad without a shot being fired, but they decide to kill paddock and shoot up a concert as a diversion anyway?
none of these other teams of gunmen fire any shots?
where's the prince? what prince? (not the off duty security guy over at that other hotel, that was not MBS as some conspiracy nuts originally claim....
why no witness testimony about fleeing teams of assassins jumping in cars/vans/ for the bungled assassins
you say "when the shooting started, they realized the target wasn't there".... so where did these shots go? where were they fired from? why no witbnesses to them out of the thousands in the hotel/casino? where are the casings....
none of your story makes sense, particularly not with paddock ending up dead behind locked doors.....
I guess you contend the door lock evidence has been altered?
Not that I care - this story is far more plausible than the official story. A known CIA gunner runner worth millions of dollars buys 70 guns for himself - come on dude - a gun runner with 70 guns is buying them for someone else he doesn't need 70 guns to carry out a mass shooting.
First their are picture of the prince being escorted by police on the day of the shooting.
Second, there are multiple witnesses who saw more than 1 shooter.
EYEWITNESS SPOTTED MULTIPLE GUNMEN SHOOTING “ON THE GROUND” JUST OUTSIDE THE ROUTE
wow... where to start.... gone bad? how? they shot up the upper floors and the guy wasn't there? to need a diversion after "going bad" and shots being fired, apparently, they shoot up a concert and kill the gun runner (or does he commit suicide) unlikely, and some how gets himself, dead, locked behind to doors deadbolted from the inside, and no one leaves the room....
or, does the attempt go bad without a shot being fired, but they decide to kill paddock and shoot up a concert as a diversion anyway?
none of these other teams of gunmen fire any shots?
where's the prince? what prince? (not the off duty security guy over at that other hotel, that was not MBS as some conspiracy nuts originally claim....
why no witness testimony about fleeing teams of assassins jumping in cars/vans/ for the bungled assassins
you say "when the shooting started, they realized the target wasn't there".... so where did these shots go? where were they fired from? why no witbnesses to them out of the thousands in the hotel/casino? where are the casings....
none of your story makes sense, particularly not with paddock ending up dead behind locked doors.....
I guess you contend the door lock evidence has been altered?
Not that I care the most plausible explanation is that Paddock - a very well known gun runner - bought the guns for the assassins. Their were multiple teams of assassins around Vegas setup to get the Prince. However, the FBI knew of the plot to kill the Prince and when the assassins got to the 32nd floor to buy guns from Paddock - again over 65 and he's a gun runner, they panicked, and they started shooting into the crowd to escape.
Paddock was a well known gun runner in the Phillipines and he had no history of mental illness or violence.
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thomorino
Restricted User
06-01-17
45842
#35
The gunmen who shot up the crowd never shot up the 32nd floor because their target the prince wasn't there, but after they were up there to buy the guns from Paddock they realized the FBI knew about their plot and they were trapped, that's why they likely started shooting.