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  • Gmen30
    SBR MVP
    • 10-13-10
    • 1405

    #1
    Any contractors in here?
    I'm a GC in Northern NJ. I can't even get prices I used to get 10 years ago. Although I don't agree with Trump on much, it is time to build the wall. These illegals are killing my business. Any other contractors have
    a similar experience?
  • KRIT
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 01-11-14
    • 12878

    #2
    Complaining because an illegal is taking business from you is laughable. If you can't operate a business without them getting in the way maybe you should close down.
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    • jjgold
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 07-20-05
      • 388179

      #3
      The illegals are much better workers in the Americans and much more skilled

      I bankrupted for businesses in Jersey because of gambling
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      • reigle9
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 10-25-07
        • 17879

        #4
        Originally posted by KRIT
        Complaining because an illegal is taking business from you is laughable. If you can't operate a business without them getting in the way maybe you should close down.
        next level stupid

        you and hareeba should hook up
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        • Heltah Skeltah
          SBR MVP
          • 12-05-17
          • 3499

          #5
          Originally posted by KRIT
          Complaining because an illegal is taking business from you is laughable. If you can't operate a business without them getting in the way maybe you should close down.
          You are clueless..these illegals work for nothing at all and undercut the hard working guy trying to provide for his family.
          I feel your pain Gmen..I live in CT and this have went downhill fast. Years ago you could make a good living do hard and honest good work..nowadays it is a shitshow
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          • Gmen30
            SBR MVP
            • 10-13-10
            • 1405

            #6
            Originally posted by KRIT
            Complaining because an illegal is taking business from you is laughable. If you can't operate a business without them getting in the way maybe you should close down.
            STFU. You're fukkin clueless.
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            • KRIT
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 01-11-14
              • 12878

              #7
              Where do you live where there are so many illegals? How do you know they are illegals?
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              • KRIT
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 01-11-14
                • 12878

                #8
                I don't know what to tell you. This is how America is. They are here, you got to deal with it. Either get left behind or adapt.
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                • Gmen30
                  SBR MVP
                  • 10-13-10
                  • 1405

                  #9
                  Originally posted by KRIT
                  I don't know what to tell you. This is how America is. They are here, you got to deal with it. Either get left behind or adapt.
                  You're not a contractor. So you don't need to say anything further.
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                  • High3rEl3m3nt
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 09-28-10
                    • 8022

                    #10
                    It's a huge problem here in oregon and sw washington.
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                    • topgame85
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 03-30-08
                      • 12325

                      #11
                      In VA you can get 30-70% above bottom bids. Need to know how to SELL. Explain why you can't compete with basement pricing and why they shouldn't work with those contractors. If your market has any type of $ you can win projects. Also offer financing. 18 mo. WPDI that costs 4-5% can raise your ticket 20%.
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                      • Hman
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 11-04-17
                        • 21429

                        #12
                        Originally posted by KRIT
                        Where do you live where there are so many illegals? How do you know they are illegals?


                        Not sure where you live, but in some areas, seeing/spotting the difference between Illegal vs Mexican-Americans is as easy as telling the difference between an apple & an orange.

                        They look nothing alike.
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                        • Gmen30
                          SBR MVP
                          • 10-13-10
                          • 1405

                          #13
                          Originally posted by jjgold
                          The illegals are much better workers in the Americans and much more skilled

                          I bankrupted for businesses in Jersey because of gambling
                          When was the last time you were on a job site? The BIGGEST misnomer is that Latinos work harder than Americans.

                          This is simply not true.
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                          • topgame85
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 03-30-08
                            • 12325

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Gmen30
                            When was the last time you were on a job site? The BIGGEST misnomer is that Latinos work harder than Americans.

                            This is simply not true.
                            Correct. They don't.
                            They know the game. They look busy and do the same job in 14 hrs that an American crew does in 9. Hours worked does not equal hard working.
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                            • High3rEl3m3nt
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 09-28-10
                              • 8022

                              #15
                              In Oregon and SW Washington, most of the illegals are hired by Latino American contractors, who are terrible at selling/presenting value to the home owner as a general rule of thumb. My company does not struggle against them competition-wise, as much as some of the smaller outfits who tend to try and win bids by being the lowest.
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                              • jjgold
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 07-20-05
                                • 388179

                                #16
                                Too many American kids that work for contractors are drug addicts or have issues basically real screwballs

                                Lazy

                                Whites are traditionally lazy
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                                • Gmen30
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 10-13-10
                                  • 1405

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by topgame85
                                  Correct. They don't.
                                  They know the game. They look busy and do the same job in 14 hrs that an Ameeican crew does in 9. Hours worked does not equal uard working.
                                  Absolutely spot on.
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                                  • eaglesfan371
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 01-08-19
                                    • 4079

                                    #18
                                    Voted for trump, don't like trump now BUT I do want that fukking wall built. BUILD IT NOW.
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                                    • RudyRuetigger
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 08-24-10
                                      • 65084

                                      #19
                                      golf course is same way bro
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                                      • MC PICKS
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 01-10-10
                                        • 6644

                                        #20
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                                        • Gmen30
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 10-13-10
                                          • 1405

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by ** PICKS
                                          I'm grabbing a fake badge of some sort from Dollar Tree tonight and doing this tomorrow on the job site. I wanna see those fukkers run into the woods.
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                                          • MC PICKS
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 01-10-10
                                            • 6644

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Gmen30
                                            I'm grabbing a fake badge of some sort from Dollar Tree tonight and doing this tomorrow on the job site. I wanna see those fukkers run into the woods.
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                                            • 19th Hole
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 03-22-09
                                              • 18954

                                              #23
                                              Where the heck is OPIE?
                                              He single-handedly rebuilt the entire state (Republic) of Texas
                                              and never stopped for one moment to see if there were any illegals behind him.

                                              OPIE and Pecos Bill could build that Trumpian Wall with a lasso and a branding iron.
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                                              • High3rEl3m3nt
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 09-28-10
                                                • 8022

                                                #24
                                                The Latino contractors out here that hire illegal labor not only avoid paying into the system, but they cause a lot of small local outfits that play by the rules to go out of business because they can't land any jobs.
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                                                • BeatTheJerk
                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                  • 08-19-07
                                                  • 31794

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by KRIT
                                                  Complaining because an illegal is taking business from you is laughable. If you can't operate a business without them getting in the way maybe you should close down.
                                                  What you do for a living to make such an ignorant claim ? If you ignore my inquiry “fuk off”.
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                                                  • KVB
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 05-29-14
                                                    • 74817

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by ** PICKS
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                                                    • Gmen30
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 10-13-10
                                                      • 1405

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by High3rEl3m3nt
                                                      The Latino contractors out here that hire illegal labor not only avoid paying into the system, but they cause a lot of small local outfits that play by the rules to go out of business because they can't land any jobs.
                                                      Right on point, Higher. And their quality of work is lackluster at best.
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                                                      • gauchojake
                                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                        • 09-17-10
                                                        • 34116

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by ** PICKS
                                                        The Amazing Racist was hilarious
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                                                        • KRIT
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 01-11-14
                                                          • 12878

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by BeatTheJerk
                                                          What you do for a living to make such an ignorant claim ? If you ignore my inquiry “fuk off”.
                                                          I have my own business and do just fine. Illegals don’t get in my way. Maybe I shouldn’t have responded, but complaining about illegals taking your work does nothing. They are here. Will be here. Adapt or get left behind. I’m a democrat, could care less if they build the wall. Maybe just do it so everyone will stop talking about it. But if you actually think that building the wall will solve illegals from getting in then you are wrong.
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                                                          • cecil127
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 11-19-09
                                                            • 7310

                                                            #30
                                                            I roof. they roof harder. we now make $ together. tomales are awesome. pull into a job and ask for one. might change your tune pdq
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                                                            • BeatTheJerk
                                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                              • 08-19-07
                                                              • 31794

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by KRIT
                                                              I have my own business and do just fine. Illegals don’t get in my way. Maybe I shouldn’t have responded, but complaining about illegals taking your work does nothing. They are here. Will be here. Adapt or get left behind. I’m a democrat, could care less if they build the wall. Maybe just do it so everyone will stop talking about it. But if you actually think that building the wall will solve illegals from getting in then you are wrong.
                                                              Are you in any kind of construction ?
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                                                              • firstclass
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 12-10-08
                                                                • 2653

                                                                #32
                                                                Same thing here in MD .. But we still compete but its hard because homeowners just want cheap...atleast some do.
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                                                                • gauchojake
                                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                  • 09-17-10
                                                                  • 34116

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Go after high end clients. There's no margin in cheap.
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                                                                  • DiggityDaggityDo
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 11-30-08
                                                                    • 81450

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by cecil127
                                                                    I roof. they roof harder. we now make $ together. tomales are awesome. pull into a job and ask for one. might change your tune pdq
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                                                                    • eaglesfan371
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 01-08-19
                                                                      • 4079

                                                                      #35
                                                                      If you’re selling to homeowners:

                                                                      For an extra $500 on your $3000 project, you will get born Americans trying to support their families. The work will be higher quality and several of my workers are [insert certification]. Or you can go with the cheaper option, get less quality, support undocumented workers who are causing some Americans to starve and have issues with communications throughout.

                                                                      (No experience in construction, somewhat joking above, somewhat not)
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