Watch with an open mind... VAXXED

[KVB]

LOL...If vaccines truly worked, why would people like you blame the non-vaccinated? According to your theory, only people that should worry are the ones that aren't immune to the said disease...

Not true.

Whooping cough is an example. It turns out the vaccine did work, but wore off by age 11 or 12.

I don't disagree with your post, but it's tough to make a general statement or blanket policy there.

Clearly, over vaccinating can be an issue, but some vaccines would be foolish to give up.

Declining all vaccines has already shown to be a public health issue, don't need some randomly funded study to show that.

I don't agree with much of the western medicine university growth funded by the Roths grants, but we don't need to make things worse for communities.

[VeggieDog]

I don't have kids, and I really don't understand why people are fighting about this.

If vaccinations really work, why would a vaccinated kid be at risk of catching a disease from a kid that isn't vaccinated?

[KVB]

I don't have kids, and I really don't understand why people are fighting about this.

If vaccinations really work, why would a vaccinated kid be at risk of catching a disease from a kid that isn't vaccinated?

Because some vaccines can wear off.

We can go from almost eliminating a disease form public record with children being immune, to bringing it back into hospitals and clinics because groups of people failed to get early immunity.

It can and has happened.

[VeggieDog]

Because some vaccines can wear off.

We can go from almost eliminating a disease form public record with children being immune, to bringing it back into hospitals and clinics because groups of people failed to get early immunity.

It can and has happened.

Ah. I see now. Thanks.

[DroopyDog]

I would like to see a Venn diagram of anti-vaxxers and flat earthers

[Auto Donk]

well shit, no video to view.....

guess I'll go finish shaving my balls.....

[Sanity Check]

No, you still don't get it.

The research is out there, I've given you the facts.

Not sure you understand what higher mortality means. Or maybe you don't understand what a lower birth rate means.

Either way, you are misguided when you point the finger at Bill Gates based on his Ted Talk and, like I said, you give those of us that do understand the problems with mandatory vaccines and more generally the geopolitical backdrop a bad name.

Take another, more valid, angle Sanity.

It's not about Bill Gates.

I think you're the one that doesn't get it.

Bill Gates says in the future we'll have 9 billion people.

BUT if we use vaccines correctly, we'll end up with 10% to 15% less people on earth than 9 billion.

You can't explain how that happens because you don't understand what he's talking about.

[gauchojake]

Can anyone find a YouTube video interview with a parent whose child has polio in 2019? I'd like to see that although I'm sure they are probably just a crisis actor

[KVB]

I think you're the one that doesn't get it.

Bill Gates says in the future we'll have 9 billion people.

BUT if we use vaccines correctly, we'll end up with 10% to 15% less people on earth than 9 billion.

You can't explain how that happens because you don't understand what he's talking about.

Already explained it, you just refuse to accept reality and that gross misunderstanding is embarrassing.

Look, when all of the things, not just vaccines, but all of the things Gates mentioned are employed the population ends up having less kids.

That's the research he's following.

He's not talking about killing people, he's talking the rate of population growth and how certain methods are shown to lessen that rate.

It's a given, which is why he glosses over it in the Ted Talk.

Yet your guy wants to focus on that little bit of an entire Talk that is actually about progressing to zero.

It's a terrible example, you should delete it.

[KVB]

Can anyone find a YouTube video interview with a parent whose child has polio in 2019? I'd like to see that although I'm sure they are probably just a crisis actor

Exactly.

This thread is embarrassing at this point. There is cause for some debate with some of this, but the uneducated (on this topic) entering the discussion just doesn't help.

People just don't have the right to endanger other people, but that's really a small part of it all.

[antifoil]

man, i watched that behind the curve documentary on netflix. hilarious.

[Thor4140]

You don’t even understand what Gates was saying and you use that misinterpretation to form the basis of your misbelief.

Is it really surprising that Sanity is once again on the wrong side of science on an important issue? I love these vaccine deniers where i get older and older and my immune system gets taxed even more, and we got these idiots who know more than the science behind it. And of course not vaccinating their kids

[Optional]

I think you're the one that doesn't get it.

Bill Gates says in the future we'll have 9 billion people.

BUT if we use vaccines correctly, we'll end up with 10% to 15% less people on earth than 9 billion.

You can't explain how that happens because you don't understand what he's talking about.

I think it's unlikely that Gates stood up at a TED talk and intentionally advocated vaccine use to lower birth rates and increase overall mortality.

But if he said something like you have quoted, I'd be interested to know what he is thinking there too.

[A Quant]

man, i watched that behind the curve documentary on netflix. hilarious.

That video was awesome!!

When the flat earther uses the gyroscope and observes a 15 degree per hour shift---his mind almost explodes.

Even when he sees the evidence-- NOT ONCE, but 3 different times, he still can't admit he's a lunatic.

Same with the guy and the laser beam---f'in hysterical.

[KVB]

...But if he said something like you have quoted, I'd be interested to know what he is thinking there too.

Read my posts, I explain it.

He was talking about much more than vaccines and he is following research that shows a decrease in population growth when these health factors are introduced to an area.

Some posters just want to make it sound like he's trying to use vaccines to kill people.

Obviously, not using the vaccine would kill more. But let's not go there.

It's clear that this topic and specifically what Gates is talking about flew far over the heads of some, which is probably why a youtube video showing parts of Gate's statements with a lot of editorializing comments was posted as opposed to anything with truth to it.

Embarrassing.

[KVB]

man, i watched that behind the curve documentary on netflix. hilarious.

I keep seeing a trailer for it.

The guy is like "Science just throws math at you."

Can't make this shit up.

[Optional]

Read my posts, I explain it.

He was talking about much more than vaccines and he is following research that shows a decrease in population growth when these health factors are introduced to an area.

Some posters just want to make it sound like he's trying to use vaccines to kill people.

Obviously, not using the vaccine would kill more. But let's not go there.

It's clear that this topic and specifically what Gates is talking about flew far over the heads of some, which is probably why a youtube video showing parts of Gate's statements with a lot of editorializing comments was posted as opposed to anything with truth to it.

Embarrassing.

I don't doubt you are correct. I haven't even looked at the video, but common sense says that only someone wanting to destroy the vaccination system would claim it is, or suggest it should be, used to essentially "kill" people off.

Sanity quoted a Gates statement that goes against that common sense. The context or an explanation for those particular words is what I was interested in. (but not interested enough to go and work it out for myself)

[HurryUpAndDrink]

[A Quant]

I keep seeing a trailer for it.

The guy is like "Science just throws math at you."

Can't make this shit up.

Just all that crazy math and stuff.

Same for idiot anti-vaxxers. They couldn't read or understand a clinical study if it sat on their hepatitis-infected mouth and wiggled.

[HurryUpAndDrink]

Just all that crazy math and stuff.

Same for idiot anti-vaxxers. They couldn't read or understand a clinical study if it sat on their hepatitis-infected mouth and wiggled.

yeah sure, go be an NWO slave with a smile on your face you stupid sack of shit

nothing involving your body should be mandatory

[jts1207]

yeah sure, go be an NWO slave with a smile on your face you stupid sack of shit

nothing involving your body should be mandatory

Worry about your shithole country lol

[HurryUpAndDrink]

Worry about your shithole country lol

I have numerous family/friends in the US you stupid sack of shit, of course I worry

[gauchojake]

The US government does not mandate that people get vaccinated which is why you see outbreaks of contagious diseases like measles in pockets of unvaccinated populations.

As far as autism goes and it's prevalence/growth consider the following

Older men and women are more likely than young ones to have a child with autism, according to multiple studies published in the past decade. Especially when it comes to fathers, this parental-age effect is one of the most consistent findings in the epidemiology of autism.

The average age of fatherhood has increased by three-and-a-half years in the past 44 years, according to a Stanford University report, up to 30.9 years from 27.4 years old. The researchers used data from the National Vital Statistics System, which is part of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Men over the age of 40 make up 9% of all U.S. births (that number more than doubled from 4.1% since 1973), whereas men over the age of 50 account for nearly 1%.

[A Quant]

yeah sure, go be an NWO slave with a smile on your face you stupid sack of shit

nothing involving your body should be mandatory

Die Junkie die. You sell that dog yet for a fix?

[A Quant]

I have numerous family/friends in the US you stupid sack of shit, of course I worry

You don't have any fukking friends, junkie.

It is why you try so hard on gambling forums.

Let's be honest, you'll be dead soon enough. I know it, you know it, anyone who knows you understands it.

Vaccines wouldn't make any sense to you, because you're just a junkie.

[gauchojake]

Wow

[HurryUpAndDrink]

[gauchojake]

https://annals.org/aim/fullarticle/2727726/measles-mumps-rubella-vaccination-autism-nationwide-cohort-study

I know science isn’t all that exciting but coincidentally a 10 year study to determine if there was a link to the MMR vaccine and autism was published about 2 days ago. Peer reviewed science and all that...The answer is no.

[gauchojake]

Also I posted that from mobile just so fatty knows it can be done with a working link

[HurryUpAndDrink]

But autism is not the only condition discussed regarding vaccination, there are far more allergic reactions and such that have nothing to do with austism

[The Kraken]

But autism is not the only condition discussed regarding vaccination, there are far more allergic reactions and such that have nothing to do with austism

Millions of kids have been enrolled in studies worldwide looking at side effects of vaccinations and nothing has ever been linked with vaccinations.

People (not you) love to let their imaginations get the best of them and think the global elites are thinning the population through vaccinations. While that might make a good movie, or maybe not, the reality is science has settled this debate long ago. Now they’re just piling on.

That UK dr did a ton of damage with his 12 kchild study when he concluded there was a link between mmr vaccs and autism. Absolute tragedy

[PromiseLand]

"An unvaccinated Oregon boy almost died from tetanus, the first case of the bacterial infection in the state in 30 years. The cost of his care was almost $1 million"

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/kids-health/unvaccinated-boy-almost-died-tetanus-hospital-bill-was-more-800-n981256?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma

Measles outbreak: 1 Student got 21 others sick- "Public officials and health experts had given several warnings: Do not allow a student in school if they had not been vaccinated against measles. Still, during New York City’s largest measles outbreak in a decade, a school in Brooklyn ignored that advice, resulting in one student infecting at least 21 other people with the virus."

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/07/nyregion/measles-outbreak-vaccine-nyc.html

"As of Thursday, 55 cases have been confirmed this year, most of them in unvaccinated children under age 10. The outbreak's epicenter is Clark County, Wash., just north of Portland, Ore."

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...hwest-outbreak

[bozeman]

All the vaccine atheists multiplying these days, and walla we have a measles outbreak in vancouver and other civilized parts of the world. All i think is flu shot should not be part of the package cause it actually has mercury in it, most other shots dont

[bozeman]

Kids nowadays( and adults) are involved in much worse behaviors to screw gheir lives. Anyone buys keloggs for their kids breakfast? Do they ever wonder how much their kids insulin levels spike after a bowl of that poison? My wife is called skjnny at work and everywhere she goes in canada, and she measured herself recently and she is 90-59-89 what used to be a standard, all the whales arohnd her think slmething is wrong with her, but they fail to see their own flaws.

I went to school with this kid who was slightly weird, but super strong, speech was a bit like a robot-like. Went to vlass with everyone else, earned a B on average. And he had Poleo! No wheel chair, no assistance whatsoever, cause his parents made him exercise from toddler age and he almost defeated the decease comlletely. So parents who sit on their ass eat shit, wait till they retire to have a first child ( your dna gets worse each year) wonder why they have autiatic or allergic kids. And its all the vaccines to blame makes me sick