California State becoming a real cancer to the rest of the United States of America

[Mac4Lyfe]

Florida or Hawaii most likely... I love the Ocean and warm weather.. I'm a total beach bum at heart... Not really thrilled about the humidity that goes along with it but I suppose I'd get use to it after a while.. Island fever might get to me after a while as well even on one of the larger Islands of Hawaii... Florida will probably be the ticket for me.. (No State Taxes in Florida which I also really like)
Getting hammered here in Cali every year now with the ever increasing State Tax bullhiiit that's being jacked up every year by the liberal leadership.

You either love California or you hate it. There's no in between. You're going to pay out the ass to stay. You can't beat Southern California weather, women, things to do and see. Florida and Hawaii are good places to visit but awfully boring to live. There's not much to do in either place once you do the tourist shit. Both places are very transient, very few "good" jobs and everything is imported, including the people. You don't like Hispanics taking over California, well they've already taken over South Florida, so you're not going to like that for sure. You can get by without speaking Spanish in California but it's a necessity in Miami.

Who cares about state income tax if you're going to retire? It's not a big deal once you settle down. It's the damn property tax you have to worried about. Florida and California are relatively cheap but you're going to have to pay this until your death. Texas property taxes are so high they don't need state taxes. They're going to get it out of you one way or another. Try paying 4% on a million dollar home every year.

[DISTROYA]

L.a. started tanking after the '94 earthquake, in terms of the quality of people living here. Home prices plummeted, scum of the earth and their offsprings moved here, scooped up cheap homes, had more kids, and now everywhere I go its crap. Cant visit a mall, public place in this city without being surrounded by shady people, cursing out loud, half naked chicks weighing 200+ pounds and ghetto bastards everywhere and anywhere. Its sad. It was a great city. The gap of ultra-rich and poor continue to widen, middle class getting wiped out. Business after business closing, cities like westwood have all these shut-down "for lease" signs, while there are lines to get into a supreme store to buy a 200-dollar t-shirt that says supreme. I took my son and his friends to melrose place (hadnt been there since 90's) its turned into a shithole with reefer reeking throughout the city. I was scared to walk there. And its only gonna get worse. Whats a good city to move to thats not crowded, has good business and you can raise your kids in this country, thats not freezing in the winter and deathly humid in the summer. Ive pretty much given up.
Skid row has extended pretty much to a 10-15 mile radius, feel so bad for them government overwhelmed with homelessness and they continue to take more and more people to immigrate here. Owner of a local small business, biz is virtually non-existent, unless your selling food or marijuana, or 1000x marked up bullshit clothing and apparel.

[hostile takeover]

Every single one of the people in the tents vote democrat if they vote at all.

It's all in the democrat playbook.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Walmart and now Amazon have killed the small business owner. The eroding of the middle class is what you're experiencing, where now it's just the rich surrounded by a lot of poor. It's happening everywhere but always easier to see in your own back yard. We're also all getting older, so we're seeing the erosion of common sense. We are the one's out of place. Most people look crazy but they look at us strange too. Everyone else feels comfortable but to us the world is looking abnormal. We're getting older.

[JIBBBY]

You either love California or you hate it. There's no in between. You're going to pay out the ass to stay. You can't beat Southern California weather, women, things to do and see. Florida and Hawaii are good places to visit but awfully boring to live. There's not much to do in either place once you do the tourist shit. Both places are very transient, very few "good" jobs and everything is imported, including the people. You don't like Hispanics taking over California, well they've already taken over South Florida, so you're not going to like that for sure. You can get by without speaking Spanish in California but it's a necessity in Miami.

Who cares about state income tax if you're going to retire? It's not a big deal once you settle down. It's the damn property tax you have to worried about. Florida and California are relatively cheap but you're going to have to pay this until your death. Texas property taxes are so high they don't need state taxes. They're going to get it out of you one way or another. Try paying 4% on a million dollar home every year.

Tell me about it Mac.. California is a blast and I do love living here even today.. So much to do and the weather is almost perfect year round.. I agree with everything you say... Florida and Hawaii could get boring but I'm getting ab bit older now and I don't need to be that entertained 24/7.. I do enjoy seeing Music concerts and the Hollywood Bowl events in Summer and I would miss that greatly.. Sporting events as well when I feel like going.. Staples Center just a hop and skip away up the 10 freeway (in traffic though still take an hour)...

Property taxes are insane in Cali, but not if you bought years ago like I did.. That I can deal with.. If a bought a property now it would be a different story.. Although my property taxes are up there, income taxes as well.. State taxes on the rise more then anything else..

I going to my tax accountant next week I made the same last year as I did this year, maybe a few thousand more so I will be able to see just how much more the State Taxes went up dollar for dollar...

Stay tuned.. I'll report back in this thread.. It's just a shame the Californians pay State and Gas taxes and the State is still basically broke and struggling and while the infrastructures continue to be neglected, public schools not keeping up with demand, and homelessness is growing around us.. It's a little mind blowing as I just don't see California progressing but only regressing under our current Liberal Democrat leadership..

That's keeping it real and honest.. I'd say the same if I voted for Hillary and hated Trump...

Cubans are Mexicans I don't hate as long as there are not 11 million of them pouring in around me illegally and at astronomical numbers... I don't hate on anyone or any race.. People are just people..

Hollywood bowl...



Dodger Stadium -





Staples Center -

[Mac4Lyfe]

Every single one of the people in the tents vote democrat if they vote at all.
It's all in the democrat playbook.

Wow, This is very wrong. You obviously have never went out to meet these people? It's not a 2 party bullshit system that you all have bought into. These are Americans that once believed in the American dream. Most of them do vote and I'd say most voted for Trump because they want/need change. How are so many of you so far sighted and out of touch with mainstream people? It's like you don't even take the time to talk to people?

[JIBBBY]

L.a. started tanking after the '94 earthquake, in terms of the quality of people living here. Home prices plummeted, scum of the earth and their offsprings moved here, scooped up cheap homes, had more kids, and now everywhere I go its crap. Cant visit a mall, public place in this city without being surrounded by shady people, cursing out loud, half naked chicks weighing 200+ pounds and ghetto bastards everywhere and anywhere. Its sad. It was a great city. The gap of ultra-rich and poor continue to widen, middle class getting wiped out. Business after business closing, cities like westwood have all these shut-down "for lease" signs, while there are lines to get into a supreme store to buy a 200-dollar t-shirt that says supreme. I took my son and his friends to melrose place (hadnt been there since 90's) its turned into a shithole with reefer reeking throughout the city. I was scared to walk there. And its only gonna get worse. Whats a good city to move to thats not crowded, has good business and you can raise your kids in this country, thats not freezing in the winter and deathly humid in the summer. Ive pretty much given up.
Skid row has extended pretty much to a 10-15 mile radius, feel so bad for them government overwhelmed with homelessness and they continue to take more and more people to immigrate here. Owner of a local small business, biz is virtually non-existent, unless your selling food or marijuana, or 1000x marked up bullshit clothing and apparel.

I agree... Yup.. Near the beach and Santa Monica it's not that bad yet but I'm sure it will get there with the new electric train system from LA direct to the Santa Monica Pier..

That new train system is under repair now because it already broke down and it was just built.. Shut down.. Great city planning at work there..

https://urbanize.la/post/metro-considers-temporary-shutdown-and-rebuild-blue-line

[Mac4Lyfe]

Stay tuned.. I'll report back in this thread.. It's just a shame the Californians pay State and Gas taxes and the State is still basically broke and struggling and while the infrastructures continue to be neglected, public schools not keeping up with demand, and homelessness is growing around us.. It's a little mind blowing as I just don't see California progressing but only regressing under our current Liberal Democrat leadership..
That's keeping it real and honest.. I'd say the same if I voted for Hillary and hated Trump...
Cubans are Mexicans I don't hate as long as there is not 11 million of them pouring in around me illegally... I don't hate on anyone or any race..

Jibbby - the 2 party system is a sham. You're fighting against the wrong people. It's not the Democrats (or Republicans) that are ruining things. It's people in power who don't give a damn. The system is in place for you to not know the game is being played, while the rich get richer. Everyone else keep fighting each other over the scraps. One day you're going to learn that they are ALL in cahoots together.

[JIBBBY]

Every single one of the people in the tents vote democrat if they vote at all.

It's all in the democrat playbook.

So do all the illegals when they get their State issued California Drivers licenses now and pick up that fake social security card down town for $40... Instant voting of millions there for Democrats illegally...

That's another reason why this State and it's liberal leaders have gone SO FAR LEFT now... They get the illegal votes now..

[VeggieDog]

Jibbby - the 2 party system is a sham. You're fighting against the wrong people. It's not the Democrats (or Republicans) that are ruining things. It's people in power who don't give a damn. The system is in place for you to not know the game is being played, while the rich get richer. Everyone else keep fighting each other over the scraps. One day you're going to learn that they are ALL in cahoots together.

It's a big club and you ain't in it.
--George Carlin

[The Kraken]

California State

[turbobets]

We have dreamers because kids didn't make the choice to hop the border when they were toddlers and shouldn't be thrown out of the only country they've ever known. It is a group of people that have been rigorously vetted, have shown to be productive members of society, educated, and are law abiding. Plenty of white trash out there lucky enough to be born in this country that can't say half of that, let alone all of it. Fighting against 'dreamers' is a losing battle because thankfully this country still has some compassion for those that consider themselves Americans. If you want to denigrate a group of people, find another group. Im sure almost everything you know about dreamers is untrue.

First I didn't denigrate anybody. Second I live in Arizona so trust me I know my fair share of them and have no problem with specifically dreamers being given citizenship. Third the reason we have dreamers is because Democrats decided they didn't want to lose one of their talking points. Trump offered to make many of them legal in exchange for the wall but again the Democrats won't do it.

[JIBBBY]

^^ Illegal Mexicans came over and tried to have anchor babies knowing that would seal the deal to becoming permanent residents here.. I don't blame them, it's all paid for and free medical care here in the States.. Call it dreamers or what you want.. The anchor babies slash dreamer only know America today and should stay but that still doesn't make it right.. Parents came in illegally...

[Mac4Lyfe]

^^ Illegal Mexicans came over and tried to have anchor babies knowing that would seal the deal to becoming permanent residents here.. I don't blame them, it's all paid for and free medical care here in the States.. Call it dreamers or what you want.. The anchor babies slash dreamer only know America today and should stay but that still doesn't make it right.. Parents came in illegally...

Jibbby - Do you really think it's just the Mexicans that are coming over here to have babies? In California, it's mainly Asian families, especially China. They have networks established for women to come here and have their babies. Right in your backyard, there's birth houses, setup for Chinese families, who want to get around the 1 baby rule and also get US citizenship all in one pop. Some of them are willing to pay top dollar, where everything is taken care of. There's a ton of Canadians, Europeans, Africans, and Australians who do it as well. 1 out of 10 babies born in the US is by a woman that's not a US citizen. Blaming Mexicans for what is a universal issue really doesn't address the problem.

Let's talk about solutions... Not point fingers at one ethnic group when it's people from all over the world that are taking advantage of our laws. Maybe we should abolish the 14th amendment??? Probably a better chance of that then the 2nd amendment.

[Mac4Lyfe]

^ I also mentioned before that Asians are responsible for much of the exploding cost of real estate across the country, even in Canada. Asians have unknowingly contributed to your California homelessness. Asians are taking much more white male jobs than blacks or Hispanics. MUCH MORE. Hispanics are not the threat to white males.

[Bert102]

Dumb people think it's a race war. They fight for no reason or the wrong reasons. Politics has and always be a CLASS war. Rich vs the poor, have vs have nots. It's been like that since the beginning of politics/time. But whatever suits your narrative guys. Whatever makes you feel better at night before you take your last look before you sleep 😴

[Bert102]

History of races

Why have we sought to differentiate people between races?

“The concept and application of ‘race’ as a concept has since its inception been inextricably linked to power,” Osborne said. “This is particularly true when it came to the classification of ‘types’ of people that went hand-in-hand with things like colonization, missionization, and the expansion of empires, particularly out of Europe.”

Osborne notes that the concept of races itself has evolved over time, pointing to the influx of European immigrants into the eastern U.S. and Canada. At that time, Italians, Irish and Scots were all considered “ethnic whites,” based on those observable traits such as their colour, noses or face shape. Today, however, the idea of “ethnic whites” has all but dissapeared.

[Bert102]

You guys fall for every made up human construct. I don't blame anyone as I use to be the same. We are all the same if we go back far enough. When you hate on someone you're really hating on yourself 💡 💡❤️🤷🏻*♂️💨

[JIBBBY]

Jibbby - Do you really think it's just the Mexicans that are coming over here to have babies? In California, it's mainly Asian families, especially China. They have networks established for women to come here and have their babies. Right in your backyard, there's birth houses, setup for Chinese families, who want to get around the 1 baby rule and also get US citizenship all in one pop. Some of them are willing to pay top dollar, where everything is taken care of. There's a ton of Canadians, Europeans, Africans, and Australians who do it as well. 1 out of 10 babies born in the US is by a woman that's not a US citizen. Blaming Mexicans for what is a universal issue really doesn't address the problem.

Let's talk about solutions... Not point fingers at one ethnic group when it's people from all over the world that are taking advantage of our laws. Maybe we should abolish the 14th amendment??? Probably a better chance of that then the 2nd amendment.

Asians are pouring in as well I agree but they aren't creating the problems that illegal Mexicans are when it comes to the State of California.. I know these things Mac.. I know the demographics of my State.. It's Mexican illegal immigration that is really hurting this State and just clogging up everything and frankly dirtying up everything also.. You've seen what Mexico looks like, do you really expect the Mexican illegal immigrants that sneak over to come and change?.. Maybe the 2nd generations will but not the first generations... East Los Angeles is dirty now..

Tijuana just across the border from San Diego is a crime ridden drug infested poor dirty shiiit hole.. Why do you think so many Mexicans want to come here Mac? For a better life... Sneak across as they can make money and send it back home.. I get that... America and California can't support that and sustain for much longer..

Pictures of Tijuana just across the border... It's disgusting...

[Bert102]

Spoken like someone who has put in hours of investigations. Am pretty sure you meet and talk to these people? Pretty sure your not using google for those images right? How many articles do you have to read to come to that conclusion? How many hours a day do you watch Fox News?Getting old sucks doesn't it?

[JIBBBY]

Spoken like someone who has put in hours of investigations. Am pretty sure you meet and talk to these people? Pretty sure your not using google for those images right? How many articles do you have to read to come to that conclusion? How many hours a day do you watch Fox News?Getting old sucks doesn't it?

I live here, I know many illegal immigrants personally now. I like them actually.. I probably know about 10 of them today that I speak to on occasion.... Some have been here for 10 or 15 years and speak perfect English.. They have all the fake documents and vote.. They agree with everything I say about what I said in my above post too.. I've been all over Mexico and Tijuana myself in past years also.. I know exactly what I'm talking about, do you Bert?

Democrats want open borders today to pick up more votes and it's as simple as that when you think about the politics of it all. I don't see the Nancy Palosi's and Maxine Waters living in East LA.. They are tucked away probably in Malibu where there is no illegals or crime present.. They only care about themselves and the party votes.. They don't care about the residents of California and the American Citizens like me born and raised here...

That's the hard truth.. ... Trump has started building the wall though, THANK GOD!!! Orange County fighting back now as well.. This is good news ...

[Bert102]

I live here, I know many illegal immigrants personally now. I like them actually.. I probably know about 10 of them today that I speak to on occasion.... Some have been here for 10 or 15 years and speak perfect English.. They have all the fake documents and vote.. They agree with everything I say about what I said in my above post too.. I've been all over Mexico and Tijuana myself in past years also.. I know exactly what I'm talking about, do you Bert?

Democrats want open borders today to pick up more votes and it's as simple as that when you think about the politics of it all. I don't see the Nancy Palosi's and Maxine Waters living in East LA.. They are tucked away probably in Malibu where there is no illegals or crime present.. They only care about themselves and the party votes.. They don't care about the residents of California and the American Citizens like me born and raised here...

That's the hard truth.. ... Trump has started building the wall though, THANK GOD!!! Orange County fighting back now as well.. This is good news ...

How do you know everything to be real including your memories from years ago? What is reality to you? The top scientists don't know what reality is do you? Your mind will seek and find things you want to find out. So why not focus on the positives? Everything is good and bad at the same time. So why not focus on the good?

[dlowilly]

Hey bert102 what exactly is your stance here? Are you saying there is nothing wrong with illegals and we should have no borders? All you seem to be for is serving your own self satisfaction by claiming to be better than those who criticize people breaking the law.

Do you really think people wouldn't have a problem if millions of Polish or Russian or Greek people snuck into this country and there were a bunch of dirty, drug infested, crime ridden tent cities around town full of them?

[Bert102]

Hey bert102 what exactly is your stance here? Are you saying there is nothing wrong with illegals and we should have no borders? All you seem to be for is serving your own self satisfaction by claiming to be better than those who criticize people breaking the law.

Do you really think people wouldn't have a problem if millions of Polish or Russian or Greek people snuck into this country and there were a bunch of dirty, drug infested, crime ridden tent cities around town full of them?

Everything will be taking care of. It's not up to us to worry about things we can't control. Before we look at what others are doing we must look at ourselves. None of us here who sin daily (gambling, misc.)can fix anything we are complaining about. Breaking the law you say? You mean Like betting on sports?. But am not bitching about it.🤣🤦🏻*♂️🤷🏻*♂️




[6] This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not. [7] So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone

[dlowilly]

Everything will be taking care of. It's not up to us to worry about things we can't control. Before we look at what others are doing we must look at ourselves. None of us here who sin daily (gambling, misc.)can fix anything we are complaining about. Breaking the law you say? You mean Like betting on sports?. But am not bitching about it.藍臘*♂️路*♂️




[6] This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not. [7] So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone

Now now Bert, u are being intellectually dishonest and obtuse

Me betting a game is a victimless illegality

invading a sovereign nation illegally and affecting that nation in many ways almost all of which are negative is something to be concerned about and something we can do something about as u can see with the recent presidential election and the organizing in Orange County

Can u not demand justice and punishment for a murderer or rapist because u bet on games? Stop it

[Bert102]

Now now Bert, u are being intellectually dishonest and obtuse

Me betting a game is a victimless illegality

invading a sovereign nation illegally and affecting that nation in many ways almost all of which are negative is something to be concerned about and something we can do something about as u can see with the recent presidential election and the organizing in Orange County

Can u not demand justice and punishment for a murderer or rapist because u bet on games? Stop it

Is sports betting not a federal crime? How have they affected your daily life?victimless? Sounds like a nice way to justify your sins. Whatever helps you sleep at night better. Invading a nation? And affecting people? Like the millions of natives that were here before that got wiped out. But am pretty sure you will find a way to justify this too. Am I right?

[Bert102]

Now now Bert, u are being intellectually dishonest and obtuse

Me betting a game is a victimless illegality

invading a sovereign nation illegally and affecting that nation in many ways almost all of which are negative is something to be concerned about and something we can do something about as u can see with the recent presidential election and the organizing in Orange County

Can u not demand justice and punishment for a murderer or rapist because u bet on games? Stop it

Victimless? We can maga by not sending our million or billions to shady people who run these sport books. You help fund organized crime, you may not see it but it's there...

[dlowilly]

Is sports betting not a federal crime? How have they affected your daily life?victimless? Sounds like a nice way to justify your sins. Whatever helps you sleep at night better. Invading a nation? And affecting people? Like the millions of natives that were here before that got wiped out. But am pretty sure you will find a way to justify this too. Am I right?

Lol what are u trying to say with all these deflections? There should be no laws and no enforcement of them because someone else either now or at some point in time broke them?

Illogical cuck thinking. Then earlier u asked how someone can be sure of reality. You obviously aren’t interested in serious discussion and just want to engage in abstracts and semantics, whatever is necessary to play devils advocate and continue an argument.

[dlowilly]

Victimless? We can maga by not sending our million or billions to shady people who run these sport books. You help fund organized crime, you may not see it but it's there...

No actually I’m an overall winner and have been booted from books. Time to frantically search for some other ridiculous unrelated straw man to divert from ur insane position that we should be fine with mass illegal immigration

[Bert102]

No actually I’m an overall winner and have been booted from books. Time to frantically search for some other ridiculous unrelated straw man to divert from ur insane position that we should be fine with mass illegal immigration

You don't sound like the 1 percent of lifetime winners! I would wager my life that no one here is a lifetime winner. So who's being delusional? Overall winner? At sports betting? That the craziest shit I heard all week🤣🤦🏻*♂️💩💨🤷🏻*♂️

[Bert102]

No actually I’m an overall winner and have been booted from books. Time to frantically search for some other ridiculous unrelated straw man to divert from ur insane position that we should be fine with mass illegal immigration

Why don't you post more since you're a lifetime winner? You should make a thread. A lot of people can benefit from your picks.. you will be buried in the first day. I would be lmfao🤣😂

[dlowilly]

You don't sound like the 1 percent of lifetime winners! I would wager my life that no one here is a lifetime winner. So who's being delusional? Overall winner? At sports betting? That the craziest shit I heard all week藍臘*♂️路*♂️

Why don't you post more since you're a lifetime winner? You should make a thread. A lot of people can benefit from your picks.. you will be buried in the first day. I would be lmfao藍

Deflection after deflection, but that’s what libtards do.

Anything but try to defend ur ridiculous position on the subject of this thread

[Bert102]

Deflection after deflection, but that’s what libtards do.

Anything but try to defend ur ridiculous position on the subject of this thread

You said you're a lifetime winner! Did you not say that?dilly dilly? Post tickets ot gtfo with that b.s your full of 💩. Prove me wrong. I don't partake in a stupid 2 party voting system. I'll be waiting for proof 🤥

[Bert102]

"No am actually a overall winner"
-dlowilly or dilly dilly it doesn't matter what his name is.

[Bert102]

Deflection after deflection, but that’s what libtards do.

Anything but try to defend ur ridiculous position on the subject of this thread

Your post to betpoints is turrible. You're not an overall winner.😂🤣😅 you loose 5 times before you win one. Your not even in my league with those post to points ratio. Lmfao