The Moon. Do you really think they went there and back

[jtoler]

[Snowball]

NUTS, flat earth is bullcrap designed to make the real investigations look bad
and to group serious questioners in with moronic, easily disproven theories.
The flat earth mayhem suspiciously started just after The Principle movie
was made. The Principle and Galileo Was Wrong are cutting-edge productions
about geocentrism. Geocentrism has not been disproven - even Einsten admitted
that whether space (the ether) revolves around a fixed, stable earth or the earth
spins itself is only a matter of perception. It is relative.

Now, let me really blow your minds if you're listening. When Armstrong said in his speech
that truth's protective layers have to be removed, and that there are worlds beyond belief
he meant that the widely believed and promoted science does not explain what is really
out there past the atmosphere (protective layers).
That it would simply be beyond belief in the current viewpoint what is really out there.

I want you to think a moment. Think about how our perception of light and color is determined
by the atmosphere. We see stars and the sun through this lens. Beyond the atmosphere there
is NO LENS. There is nothing to bend the light and nothing to shield it. I will direct your attention
to the flammarion from the 16th century. See how the man peers through the atmosphere only
to discover another lit world.


Now, listen carefully to the brilliant scientist Eric P. Dollard describe this and let it sink in.
Videos like this are suppressed by You Tube, their counts are held down.
You may have to pause this just to give your mind some time to fight off the cognitive
dissonance it is experiencing. The mind-blowing stuff is from 2:30-5:00.

[jtoler]

I listened Dollard videos sometime last year I think it was Snow. Its always the guys that arnt promoted who one should study more, Auguste Piccard kept on the low also. When you look at all the supposed astronomers and scientists after the Protestant Reformation that were heavily promoted they were all catholic or promoted out of Rome. Why was Galileo treated the way he was if he was promoting heliocentrism also?

[brooks85]

NUTS, flat earth is bullcrap designed to make the real investigations look bad
and to group serious questioners in with moronic, easily disproven theories.
The flat earth mayhem suspiciously started just after The Principle movie
was made. The Principle and Galileo Was Wrong are cutting-edge productions
about geocentrism. Geocentrism has not been disproven - even Einsten admitted
that whether space (the ether) revolves around a fixed, stable earth or the earth
spins itself is only a matter of perception. It is relative.

Now, let me really blow your minds if you're listening. When Armstrong said in his speech
that truth's protective layers have to be removed, and that there are worlds beyond belief
he meant that the widely believed and promoted science does not explain what is really
out there past the atmosphere (protective layers).
That it would simply be beyond belief in the current viewpoint what is really out there.

I want you to think a moment. Think about how our perception of light and color is determined
by the atmosphere. We see stars and the sun through this lens. Beyond the atmosphere there
is NO LENS. There is nothing to bend the light and nothing to shield it. I will direct your attention
to the flammarion from the 16th century. See how the man peers through the atmosphere only
to discover another lit world.


Now, listen carefully to the brilliant scientist Eric P. Dollard describe this and let it sink in.
Videos like this are suppressed by You Tube, their counts are held down.
You may have to pause this just to give your mind some time to fight off the cognitive
dissonance it is experiencing. The mind-blowing stuff is from 2:30-5:00.

I'm left speechless after hearing it because that guy must be crazy on some level.

[Snowball]

I listened Dollard videos sometime last year I think it was Snow. Its always the guys that arnt promoted who one should study more, Auguste Piccard kept on the low also. When you look at all the supposed astronomers and scientists after the Protestant Reformation that were heavily promoted they were all catholic or promoted out of Rome. Why was Galileo treated the way he was if he was promoting heliocentrism also?

The answer to that question has nothing to do with the Catholic Church or even Protestantism
per se, but everything to do with Freemasonry and Kabbalah societies.
Have you heard of the Collins brothers, Philip and Paul Collins, their book Ascendancy of the
Scientific Dictatorship really lays the facts out there.

[Snowball]

I'm left speechless after hearing it because that guy must be crazy on some level.

I assure you he is not crazy at all. He is, however, suddenly dying from bone cancer.
Updates on his website (the real website is only EricPDollard.com)

Maybe this guy looks "less crazy" to you ? I'm glad your mind was blown, that proves
you actually listened.

[jtoler]

The answer to that question has nothing to do with the Catholic Church or even Protestantism
per se, but everything to do with Freemasonry and Kabbalah societies.
Have you heard of the Collins brothers, Philip and Paul Collins, their book Ascendancy of the
Scientific Dictatorship really lays the facts out there.

Havent read that book, can agree with on where I think youre going, classic Galileo story is a hoax also. Where are you going with freemasonry and kabbalah, we may be thinking along the same lines. Ive studied both along with catholicism quite a bit, not an expert or scholar on them though.

[brooks85]

I assure you he is not crazy at all. He is, however, suddenly dying from bone cancer.
Updates on his website (the real website is only EricPDollard.com)

Maybe this guy looks "less crazy" to you ? I'm glad your mind was blown, that proves
you actually listened.

yeah I already looked at his website and saw he is sick which sucks. His earthquake predicting thing is interesting. From what I saw it seems like he is an electrical/physics guy so while I wouldn't challenge him on his science skills compared to mine I can say without a doubt what he said in that youtube video is incorrect for multiple reasons but neutrinos being the best example.

Unless you're going to argue it's a big coverup and dozens upon dozens of experiments which have captured neutrinos never happened. I'd say trusting college kids to keep their mouth shut is obviously not what is happening.

[KVB]

The rock from Holland could have been switched out with petrified wood before entering the guys collection. The discovery that it was wood came decades after it had been thoroughly vetted by countless individuals. If they didn't think was wood then, maybe it wasn't. So much time had passes with no real evidence of chain of custody.

Remember, "moon rocks" were be stolen during this time.

The Nixon call was not live, and for this I will say "you idiots" (don't take it personally) it was a Presidential P R stunt.

Of course, the call was recorded ahead of time and video taped.

Even if it was an unrealistic call from a land line, that is no suggestion that men were not on the moon.

I'm not siding either way, but these two pieces of "evidence" aren't even weak, they aren't even evidence.

Can you do any better?

[KVB]

...Videos like this are suppressed by You Tube, their counts are held down...

There's a way to test this and did you? What is your evidence for this statement?

You either tested it, or you didn't.

Can you disprove that they don't suppress view counts?

[Harry N. Lloyd]

What does "I lived through it" mean? We've all lived through alot of fake things that most still think are real.

You mean, like, Brandon Lang correctly picking something like 20 Super Bowls in a row.....?

[KVB]

One thing is for sure Snowball, things aren't what they seem. This is a simplistic video that stems from current research by those who actually "create" knowledge.

What a great time to be an astrophysicist, save the restrictions on the questions scientists are allowed to ask.

The evidence shows Plato was right and materialism never had a chance...

[Nitrogen]

1. Moon landing (the earth actually being flat). All the info is there. If you have an open mind the flat earth theory is way stronger than the globe theory.

Or you can spend $150 and launch a camera into the stratosphere and see the curvature yourself.

[Snowball]

yeah I already looked at his website and saw he is sick which sucks. His earthquake predicting thing is interesting. From what I saw it seems like he is an electrical/physics guy so while I wouldn't challenge him on his science skills compared to mine I can say without a doubt what he said in that youtube video is incorrect for multiple reasons but neutrinos being the best example.

Means nothing, because the neutrinos they've observed (supposedly) were observed from the
Ice Cube Neutrino Observatory in Antarctica. Obviously, that's under the atmosphere.
Hubble is only about 330km high. The exosphere extends much further:

[jtoler]

The rock from Holland could have been switched out with petrified wood before entering the guys collection. The discovery that it was wood came decades after it had been thoroughly vetted by countless individuals. If they didn't think was wood then, maybe it wasn't. So much time had passes with no real evidence of chain of custody.

Remember, "moon rocks" were be stolen during this time.

The Nixon call was not live, and for this I will say "you idiots" (don't take it personally) it was a Presidential P R stunt.

Of course, the call was recorded ahead of time and video taped.

Even if it was an unrealistic call from a land line, that is no suggestion that men were not on the moon.

I'm not siding either way, but these two pieces of "evidence" aren't even weak, they aren't even evidence.

Can you do any better?

Where and when has the gov't ever said it was a pr stunt? I dont think they ever have therefore the narrative is still that he called from the oval office to the moon. Hard to type that without laughing.

[NUTSonYAchin]

Or you can spend $150 and launch a camera into the stratosphere and see the curvature yourself.

show me one video of any curvature...meanwhile I'll whip out my camera phone and film mountains many miles away (here in California, Arizona, New Mexico, or Colorado). which you wouldn't be able to see if there was curvature at 7.98 in/mile squared like NASA says there is. Checkmate. Have a nice day thinking you live on a spinning ball traveling thousands of miles thru space and every few weeks we are just super lucky to avoid some asteroid hitting earth..

If we live on a ball, you can just travel West by jumping over and over...I mean the earth is moving 1000mph right? You'd be able to save a ton on travel expenses

[KVB]

Where and when has the gov't ever said it was a pr stunt? I dont think they ever have therefore the narrative is still that he called from the oval office to the moon. Hard to type that without laughing.

...Even if it was an unrealistic call from a land line, that is no suggestion that men were not on the moon...

So let's say the Oval office lied about the call. It's still doesn't present evidence that there was no men on the moon.

You've got to at least put a thinking cap on if you are going to engage in what is essentially a thought experiment as no parties will accept that the other has valid information.

It's not without cause, of course, we've been lied to so many times. Who can you trust? Once one reads something like the released documents on Pearl Harbor, and how those who "lived through it" have always thought, and always taught that there was surprise attack...or about the RMS Lusitania, it seems nothing is off limits. Sure, some were surprised, but you know what I mean.

[Foxx]

show me one video of any curvature...meanwhile I'll whip out my camera phone and film mountains many miles away (here in California, Arizona, New Mexico, or Colorado). which you wouldn't be able to see if there was curvature at 7.98 in/mile squared like NASA says there is. Checkmate. Have a nice day thinking you live on a spinning ball traveling thousands of miles thru space and every few weeks we are just super lucky to avoid some asteroid hitting earth..

If we live on a ball, you can just travel West by jumping over and over...I mean the earth is moving 1000mph right? You'd be able to save a ton on travel expenses

Jesus man. Are you for real?

[KVB]

show me one video of any curvature...meanwhile I'll whip out my camera phone and film mountains many miles away (here in California, Arizona, New Mexico, or Colorado). which you wouldn't be able to see if there was curvature at 7.98 in/mile squared like NASA says there is. Checkmate. Have a nice day thinking you live on a spinning ball traveling thousands of miles thru space and every few weeks we are just super lucky to avoid some asteroid hitting earth..

If we live on a ball, you can just travel West by jumping over and over...I mean the earth is moving 1000mph right? You'd be able to save a ton on travel expenses

No, because of inertia, we are moving just as fast when we jump.

And I have been high enough into the mountains to see the curvature of the Earth myself. For people in high rises, the sun sets later than those on the ground.

[jtoler]

No, because of inertia, we are moving just as fast when we jump.

And I have been high enough into the mountains to see the curvature of the Earth myself. For people in high rises, the sun sets later than those on the ground.

Call me crazy but I lean round like they say myself, once you go back into where the ball originated from and why and from who it starts to make sense why the truth may have been turned on its head. These are the same people who claim to be christians but killed bible believing christians everywhere they went in history. Cmon bro, youve seen no curvature. If so anyone from a high rise could easily take a pic and show it.

[reigle9]

Good question.

because it's expensive and pointless...and overly dangerous back then, now it's still expensive and pointless, and doesnt have the funding

didn't read the thread, but hopefully sanity prevailed (lol)

[KVB]

After the overwhelming evidence that can be reproduce over and over again by even the simplest of people and technology there can be no doubt that the Earth displays curvature.

It's demonstrated day after day. And those who would choose not to belief the evidence either refuse to confirm what they can see for themselves, live under a rock, or who knows what.

Of course I've seen the curvature of the Earth myself.

[reigle9]

sbr is the most predictable site ever

stupid thought:
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it's not a coincidence, stupid people are fukking poor

[Nitrogen]

show me one video of any curvature...meanwhile I'll whip out my camera phone and film mountains many miles away (here in California, Arizona, New Mexico, or Colorado). which you wouldn't be able to see if there was curvature at 7.98 in/mile squared like NASA says there is. Checkmate. Have a nice day thinking you live on a spinning ball traveling thousands of miles thru space and every few weeks we are just super lucky to avoid some asteroid hitting earth..

If we live on a ball, you can just travel West by jumping over and over...I mean the earth is moving 1000mph right? You'd be able to save a ton on travel expenses

You're unable to view the hundreds of youtube videos of people launching their own camera equipped balloons into the stratosphere?

Using your "logic", jumping up, even a few inches should cause you to go crashing into the front of a flying jet that you're on.

By all means stay stupid though. Or continue trolling. Either way, you're top shelf at both.

[KVB]

They'll get back to the moon, guys, don't worry. They'll even tow an asteroid into the moon's orbit because it is easier to study and work on it with the proximity.

When they go back, "they" are going to go big, from mining to a stepping stone for further exploration.

[reigle9]

lol of course jtoler thinks it's a conspiracy.



They passed out rocks to 50 states and 100+ countries, if they were fake it would be the dumbest conspiracy ever. Run a con then pass out evidence it was a con to 150+ entities around the world... no, that did not happen obviously.

It never ends. Stupid people want to think they're not stupid, so everything is a conspiracy only they know.

[KVB]

I should add, as far as seeing the curvature of the Earth, it was in the mountains over lookng the Ocean. There appeared to be curvature, but we watched from the point multiple effects of the curvature.

Both from lighting and military ships in the distance.

[KVB]

One more thought, seeing the curvature of the Earth does deserve a little discussion because it's almost impossible. You can see the effects but you need to be very high and have a wide view to see the actual curve.

I think I best saw the curvature from the front part of an airplane.

[stevenash]

[stevenash]

it's not a coincidence, stupid people are fukking poor

And (say it with me)
You can't fix stupid.

[jtoler]

Thats silly. Can easily dust could easily have a certain weight or vid speed could be adjusted. I wonder why we never saw the sun while they were up there. Indoctrination since birth causes one to never think about anything especially when no one else ever questions anything. Its like the experiments done in class where the entire class is in on it except one student, the teacher asks a question another student gives a blatant wrong answer. The student not in on it thinks the answer is wrong but doesnt raise his hand because every one seems ok with the wrong answer and he doesnt want to feel stupid.

[stevenash]

Thats silly. Can easily dust could easily have a certain weight or vid speed could be adjusted. I wonder why we never saw the sun while they were up there. Indoctrination since birth causes one to never think about anything especially when no one else ever questions anything. Its like the experiments done in class where the entire class is in on it except one student, the teacher asks a question another student gives a blatant wrong answer. The student not in on it thinks the answer is wrong but doesnt raise his hand because every one seems ok with the wrong answer and he doesnt want to feel stupid.

The sun is in he back of the photo.
Now you can tell me the photo is photo shopped, I'm not going to go back and forth with anybody regarding this topic.

a) I've read and seen enough evidence to convince me it happened.
b) If one believes it never happened chances are I'm not going to change one's mind.
c) this debate isn't worth the time and energy. It really isn't, you want to believe it never happened, so be it, not going to change my life one iota, doesn't make you a nut job either, I've heard arguments regarding the moon landing from both sides that are much more educated and smarter than you and I.

Kennedy assaination, moon landing, 9/11 attack, Sandy Hook shooting, etc etc etc are all debates not worth my energy anymore, I have my opinions, you have yours, and if we both disagree chances are no one is going to move the other off their stance, so why exert the energy.

[reigle9]

^cool guy

love your mindset

i fukk with these guys in the trump thread for personal entertainment, but don't actually give a shit

[Foxx]

The sun is in he back of the photo.
Now you can tell me the photo is photo shopped, I'm not going to go back and forth with anybody regarding this topic.

a) I've read and seen enough evidence to convince me it happened.
b) If one believes it never happened chances are I'm not going to change one's mind.
c) this debate isn't worth the time and energy. It really isn't, you want to believe it never happened, so be it, not going to change my life one iota, doesn't make you a nut job either, I've heard arguments regarding the moon landing from both sides that are much more educated and smarter than you and I.

Kennedy assaination, moon landing, 9/11 attack, Sandy Hook shooting, etc etc etc are all debates not worth my energy anymore, I have my opinions, you have yours, and if we both disagree chances are no one is going to move the other off their stance, so why exert the energy.

Good points.

[reigle9]

Nash, just curious...what are your feelings on each?

yes or no, with a sentence explanation

Kennedy assassination - you could probably talk me into anything that made sense at this point, when i was a young kid and wanted to believe lol (mafia for me is like the internet kids of now)...thought bonanao had it done

moon landing - i just think this one is silly

9/11 attack - a rich saudi with all the power, nothing to do with the US...i dont give two shits if the US had a building "pulled", it probably made sense at the time

Sandy Hook - could not be more retarded