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  • Shute
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 03-20-17
    • 11835

    #1
    Healthcare bill
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  • miltondelgadoaVT
    SBR Rookie
    • 02-16-17
    • 31

    #2
    No one can describe their thoughts unless you tell us what this topic is about.
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    • Shute
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 03-20-17
      • 11835

      #3
      Healthcare bill . It is called the affordable health care. It was made law in USA 7 years ago.
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      • chico2663
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        • 09-02-10
        • 36915

        #4
        it screws the middle class and redistributes wealth to the rich. Expect premiums to go up 30% and the deductibles to increase 15%. But elections have consequences. Hillary was a horrible candidate but trump is taking care of the wealthy. He bragged about saving carrier but they just laid off 1000 employees
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        • jjgold
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 07-20-05
          • 388179

          #5
          nobody has any idea what it is all about actually here

          Would never listen to a guy on a forum talk abut health care
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          • ApricotSinner32
            Restricted User
            • 11-28-10
            • 10648

            #6
            All politicians are crooks and should not be trusted. If another man wants power or control over an entire population of millions he's likely to be a sociopath/narcissist with an agenda.
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            • EmpireMaker
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 06-18-09
              • 15583

              #7
              The ACHA, the new GOP healthcare bill is HORRIBLE, it screws everyone except the 1% richest people in the country who actually get a tax cut as a result. Higher premiums and higher deductibles. Massive price increases for seniors.
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              • Itsamazing777
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 11-14-12
                • 12602

                #8
                Welcome back big bear
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                • capitalist pig
                  SBR MVP
                  • 01-25-07
                  • 4998

                  #9
                  The Federal government should not be in the health care business. The only health care the government should be involved in is Medicare to people over 65.

                  Later
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                  • ApricotSinner32
                    Restricted User
                    • 11-28-10
                    • 10648

                    #10
                    Health care is one of the biggest scams in this country. You pay for health insurance and when you get really sick you will go bankrupt paying for the care. What's the point of paying for health insurance if it only covers basic shit? Almost every industry in this country is a scam it's insane.
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                    • rkelly110
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                      • 10-05-09
                      • 39691

                      #11
                      Originally posted by EmpireMaker
                      The ACHA, the new GOP healthcare bill is HORRIBLE, it screws everyone except the 1% richest people in the country who actually get a tax cut as a result. Higher premiums and higher deductibles. Massive price increases for seniors.
                      Nominated.

                      No one was buying Obama care when it was mandated which is why rates/ deductibles are so high. Those that
                      have insurance are using the hell out of it meaning, there's no pool to pull from. It's like living paycheck to
                      paycheck for the insurance companies.

                      This new bill does away with individual and corporate mandates meaning, your employer can say fuk you,
                      find your own insurance, I ain't paying.

                      They are separating the young from the old. The young, if they buy insurance at all, will have a lower rate.
                      The old and those with preexisting conditions will pay a lot more.

                      Across state lines for competition? If every insurance company has the same rates, that's a wash.

                      There's no other way around this. Govt has to step in. Either get health care costs to come down or everyone
                      has to have insurance to keep our costs down. Free market won't do shit if the hospitals and doctors keep
                      costs high. They are the culprit behind our high costs.
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                      • brooks85
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 01-05-09
                        • 44709

                        #12
                        the comedy is how anti-american idiots like rkelly all of the sudden care about healthcare after his sheepherder passed his bill in the most tyrannical way in US history to the detriment of the middle class; crippled them.

                        Rkelly got destroyed on this topic last week and ran away as usual.
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                        • rkelly110
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                          • 10-05-09
                          • 39691

                          #13
                          Health saving accounts? If you can't afford the premiums/ deductibles, how are you going to save?

                          In my area, conglomerates are getting hospitals and doctors offices to join together. How is a free market
                          going to work if they are a conglomerate?

                          All I can say is, our elected officials need to get out in the real world instead of golfing and jerking each other off.

                          Single payer, like every other industrialized nation, is the way to go.
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                          • Booya711
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                            • 12-20-11
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                            #14
                            Casper...saloon this shit
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                            • ApricotSinner32
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                              • 11-28-10
                              • 10648

                              #15
                              The people running this country are bought and paid for to serve the interest of the rich. It's that simple.
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                              • Sam Odom
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 10-30-05
                                • 58063

                                #16
                                Sammy has great HC

                                fuk everyone else
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                                • jjgold
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 07-20-05
                                  • 388179

                                  #17
                                  poor=lazy

                                  rich work hard
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                                  • ApricotSinner32
                                    Restricted User
                                    • 11-28-10
                                    • 10648

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by jjgold
                                    poor=lazy

                                    rich work hard
                                    Rich work smart enslaving people for their own gain. Rich people work smart not hard.
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                                    • Sam Odom
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 10-30-05
                                      • 58063

                                      #19
                                      Rich = dog bettors
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                                      • rkelly110
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                                        • 10-05-09
                                        • 39691

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Sam Odom
                                        Rich = dog bettors
                                        Never bet on the dogs. Horses, yes.
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                                        • ApricotSinner32
                                          Restricted User
                                          • 11-28-10
                                          • 10648

                                          #21
                                          And to say the poor are lazy is incorrect as well in a lot of cases the poor stay poor because they are ignorant and are being capitalized on not because they are not good workers but because they are just dumb.
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                                          • d2bets
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                                            • 08-10-05
                                            • 39995

                                            #22
                                            Trump says if not passed today then Obamacare stays.

                                            Too bad he's a liar.
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                                            • Auto Donk
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                                              • 09-03-13
                                              • 43558

                                              #23
                                              just left mark meadows a message ..... letting him know he's done in office if he sinks the bill later today
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                                              • Shute
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 03-20-17
                                                • 11835

                                                #24
                                                Bill failed. Next time hopefully
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                                                • d2bets
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                                                  • 08-10-05
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Shute
                                                  Bill failed. Next time hopefully
                                                  Trump says there is no next time. That was it. Obamacare stays.
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                                                  • d2bets
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                                                    • 08-10-05
                                                    • 39995

                                                    #26
                                                    It's very simple. Republicans had their chance to repeal and replace and they failed. Now they need to work on making changes to Obamacare to improve it. If they had any integrity at all, that's what they would do.
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                                                    • Snowball
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                                                      • 11-15-09
                                                      • 30058

                                                      #27
                                                      Health care in the U.S. was run by charitable institutions
                                                      and nobody complained about it until the 1980s came around
                                                      then costs started rising - and will always continue to rise -
                                                      as long as the for-profit corporations are allowed to own
                                                      hospitals and insurance companies hopped on the feeding
                                                      frenzy. Catholic hospitals were not kept alive by the Wall Street
                                                      banks.. they hate non-profits. Hundreds of large Catholic hospitals
                                                      have been acquired by Wall Street international bankers.

                                                      Look, the bottom line is that health care is supposed to be operated
                                                      on a non-profit basis by the community for the health of the community.

                                                      Unfortunately the current societal paradigm wants big government to take
                                                      over health care from the corporations. There is no win, both are bad, the
                                                      false right says banks and corporations. The false left says government.

                                                      Nobody is talking about the solution which is private non-profits with
                                                      price controls and protections, and the elimination of greedy middlemen
                                                      who do nothing but add layers of profit along the chain. This is why
                                                      health care is too expensive, because unnecessary layers of profit are
                                                      squeezed into the transmission of service. That is what the GOP seeks
                                                      to preserve, so they can receive millions in donations from the corporations.
                                                      The Democrats want government to take over.

                                                      We've lost and fallen prey to the false gods of capitalism and communism
                                                      which are both sides of the same coin, if you know your true history.
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                                                      • Shute
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 03-20-17
                                                        • 11835

                                                        #28
                                                        Round 2. Trying to "take away" an entitlement/right once it has been given out/declared is an impossible feat.
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