Anyone on here vegan?

[pboozer57]

I'm just wondering. I do eat meat but was thinking of trying to stay away from it. I do love meat but every time I eat it I feel sick. Maybe it's in my head but I think I would feel better staying away from it but it is hard.

[brainfreeze]

This is in the oven ... How can you say no ?

[pboozer57]

Trust me I get it. It's a fact though, any research will tell you meat is causing cancer. We aren't in biblical times anymore. These animals are being pumped with God knows what and organic, grass fed who knows the real truth. Unless you are growing it in your backyard, good luck. I figured we would have some vegans on here but maybe not. Would just like to see what they have to say. That steak looks mighty tasty, enjoy!!

[brainfreeze]

Trust me I get it. It's a fact though, any research will tell you meat is causing cancer. We aren't in biblical times anymore. These animals are being pumped with God knows what and organic, grass fed who knows the real truth. Unless you are growing it in your backyard, good luck. I figured we would have some vegans on here but maybe not. Would just like to see what they have to say. That steak looks mighty tasty, enjoy!!

Agreed & ty

[Ralphie Halves]

You were bred to eat meat. It's not bad for you if you do it right.

Grass fed and organic is the real deal. Countless studies out there to prove it. The "who knows" argument is nonsense, you can just up and say "who knows" about anything. The stuff you don't want in commercial meat resides in the fat of those animals, and all that crap effs with your endocrine system (hormones), making you fat, moody, tired, etc. Red meat is not causing cancer -- it's all the crap non-organic factory farms put in their animals.

Vegan will get you less flabby, but at the expense of a lot of protein/iron and even worse, a lot of enjoyment.

[PorkChop]

Spend 5 minutes on YouTube watching Animal Slaughters.

You'll consider vegan

[Ralphie Halves]

Spend 5 minutes on YouTube watching Animal Slaughters.

You'll consider vegan

Again, factory farms are the main culprit here. Gotta make that separation.

[zizoudane10]

I love meat. That said, there are plenty of good vegan meals. Me and the girl do it every year for about 3-4 weeks. Vegetarian, I could do if I had to. Vegan? Not really... While there are plenty of great meals, you are extremely limited. Not for me.

[pboozer57]

I love meat. That said, there are plenty of good vegan meals. Me and the girl do it every year for about 3-4 weeks. Vegetarian, I could do if I had to. Vegan? Not really... While there are plenty of great meals, you are extremely limited. Not for me.

Yeah I might try this. Could you tell a difference in how you felt after 3-4 weeks?

[innovation]

cut carbs...get your meat from a good source though...we have small family owned butchers around here that have excellent cuts

[pboozer57]

cut carbs...get your meat from a good source though...we have small family owned butchers around here that have excellent cuts

Yeah thats how it needs to be. Absolutely know where your meat is coming from.

[Snowball]

i have gone years without meat.
never been a regular meat eater.

anyone over 30 who cuts down significantly
on meat and alcohol will lose weight and look younger.

[Auto Donk]

Like redd foxx once said:

"Give up butter, cottage cheese, steaks.... you'll feel like a goddam idiot lying in a hospital bed someday dying of nothing! A friend of mine gave up smoking; a few months later he got killed -- ran over by a tobacco truck! Ran over his clean lungs!!!"

[leeloo]

Trust me I get it. It's a fact though, any research will tell you meat is causing cancer. We aren't in biblical times anymore. These animals are being pumped with God knows what and organic, grass fed who knows the real truth. Unless you are growing it in your backyard, good luck. I figured we would have some vegans on here but maybe not. Would just like to see what they have to say. That steak looks mighty tasty, enjoy!!

if you decide to follow your gut, here's a good place to start:
veganuarydotcom

[ClimbSomeRocks]

I became a vegetarian after listening to Rich Roll's Podcast, the episode was called "The 300 Pound Vegan" and talked about a defensive lineman (David Carter) who went vegan and the benefits he received. As an athlete, I certainly have noticed my own athletic gains from my diet change. Just know that you should not simply cut meat out, but also replace meat with beans, legumes, grains etc. I"m still figuring out the diet, but having more energy and not blowing up the toilet every time I sit is a plus.

[ttwarrior1]

lol at grains, a vegen that doesnt supplement will end up a dead vegen.

Meat is bad when cooked to well done.

Listen to vids of peter glidden, joel wallach and david wolfe

they are the ones telling the truth.

[The Kraken]

I'm just wondering. I do eat meat but was thinking of trying to stay away from it. I do love meat but every time I eat it I feel sick. Maybe it's in my head but I think I would feel better staying away from it but it is hard.

I typically don't support diets that cut entire food groups out except in the instance where that food group is making you sick. I'm big on everything in moderation.

So I say go for it. You never know until you try it.

If you go vegan and feel better, slowly try adding things back in and see if you can locate the source. You may find that you can eat fish, or chicken, etc.... but not red meat. Play around with it, that way you have more foods available to choose from, it makes the diet more sustainable.

We used to have a poster here, Milwaukee Mike, and I think was gay and vegan. Search for some of his posts

[pboozer57]

I typically don't support diets that cut entire food groups out except in the instance where that food group is making you sick. I'm big on everything in moderation.

So I say go for it. You never know until you try it.

If you go vegan and feel better, slowly try adding things back in and see if you can locate the source. You may find that you can eat fish, or chicken, etc.... but not red meat. Play around with it, that way you have more foods available to choose from, it makes the diet more sustainable.

We used to have a poster here, Milwaukee Mike, and I think was gay and vegan. Search for some of his posts

I start tomorrow. I will see how long I can go without it. Vegans say if you go 1 year without eating meat you save 200 animal lives. Will see if I feel better as well.

[BigDofBA]

Unless you're talking from a strictly food perspective, it's impossible to be a Vegan.

I had an ex gf that was totally batshit crazy that went Vegan. Then she got pissed when I pointed out that the seats in her BMW were leather, her Ugg boots were made out of an animal, and all the other shit she wore.

I also don't think it's as healthy as people think it is. You're missing out on a lot of protein and nutrients your body needs. With that said, Vegans always find weak sources of this type of nutrition and eat shit like tofu.

If you want to do it, more power to you. I just don't see the point.

[Ralphie Halves]

Vegans say if you go 1 year without eating meat you save 200 animal lives. .

This part is the one I disagree with most. If it wasn't for meat consumption, those animals wouldn't have died, but they wouldn't have been BORN either, so you're not "saving lives", that's ridiculous. It's not like we're sniping cows from their lovely habitats in the wild. They're born, cared for (way better in organic farms), and put to death quickly (in organic farms). That's a way better death than most animals get.

I hope you cure what ails ya, but just don't buy in too much to the vegan propaganda.

[pboozer57]

This part is the one I disagree with most. If it wasn't for meat consumption, those animals wouldn't have died, but they wouldn't have been BORN either, so you're not "saving lives", that's ridiculous. It's not like we're sniping cows from their lovely habitats in the wild. They're born, cared for (way better in organic farms), and put to death quickly (in organic farms). That's a way better death than most animals get.

I hope you cure what ails ya, but just don't buy in too much to the vegan propaganda.

I agree with you. Have you been to an organic farm? I haven't but they say "Vegans that is" it's just as cruel. I'm just under the opinion that organic or not the meat is still tainted. The only way to see if anything is different or worse is to try it. Then I can have a real opinion. Vegans ask "would you kill it yourself and eat it?". I say if I'm hungry enough I would eat you (a vegan). The claims they make are stupid. Obviously none of us are starving around here but if I was a cow would look absolutely delicious. Lucky enough we have choices and if going without meat could make me healthier and feeling better than I will try it. If not I will be putting a fat steak from ruth's chris steak house on my plate.

[habitualwinning]

boozer57, I've been Vegetarian for 10 years and Vegan for the past 5. Idk what it is exactly that you wish to know but if you have any questions or anything fire away and I'll do my best to help you. I will admit that when I first started I wasn't doing it for ethical reasons, as it sounds like you might be, but rather merely as a health experiment that worked so well that I stuck with it to this day. Anyone that says it's impossible to be a Vegan is quite frankly an ignorant fool. A simple google search will yield a list of people who are Vegans and profoundly more successful than everyone on this site added together. From movie stars, to musicians, to high profile athletes and world class doctors.

[chipper]

I love eating out at the local vegetarian restaurant. Freakin' delicious! I always say that if I had a chef at home that could cook the way that place does I'd have no problem at all being a vegan.

[pboozer57]

boozer57, I've been Vegetarian for 10 years and Vegan for the past 5. Idk what it is exactly that you wish to know but if you have any questions or anything fire away and I'll do my best to help you. I will admit that when I first started I wasn't doing it for ethical reasons, as it sounds like you might be, but rather merely as a health experiment that worked so well that I stuck with it to this day. Anyone that says it's impossible to be a Vegan is quite frankly an ignorant fool. A simple google search will yield a list of people who are Vegans and profoundly more successful than everyone on this site added together. From movie stars, to musicians, to high profile athletes and world class doctors.

I appreciate that! Don't get me wrong I do love animals and I feel I have done enough research and study to make the decision to try and see exactly what I feel like after doing this. I hope I feel great and it lasts forever. My wife and I are actually doing this together. I also have a 5 year old daughter and she wants to try it as well. With research it started with not eating pig anymore and now it has exceeded to this. No I am not muslim but they have there points when it comes to not eating pig. I urge anyone to look into this! I wish people including myself really knew what we were eating. Obviously dairy is a big problem as well not just meat. Cheese is going to be extremely difficult for me but I will take it a day at a time. Usually I make my mind up and I stick to it but eating meat and dairy has been extremely convenient so I just need to be prepared with fruit and vegetables before hand. We have prepared meals so wish us luck! Thanks again for your feedback. I'm sure I will be asking you for meal plans and ideas.

[pboozer57]

if you decide to follow your gut, here's a good place to start:
veganuarydotcom

Thanks for the website!

[Ralphie Halves]

I agree with you. Have you been to an organic farm?

I have, agriculture and horticulture farms both, and volunteered at a couple.

They don't mess around. They're usually owned by hippies and lesbians that are very anti-factory farming. Their margins aren't nearly as big, but they love doing it, and put in some serious work. I could never keep up.

Are 100% of them like that? Probably not, but there are strict regulations in place, we can assume they're pretty legit by now. It's makes more sense than just blindly assuming they're a sham, and the meat is "tainted".

[TheAntFather]

I'm just wondering. I do eat meat but was thinking of trying to stay away from it. I do love meat but every time I eat it I feel sick. Maybe it's in my head but I think I would feel better staying away from it but it is hard.

I'm a Vegan. Iv'e never felt better in my life since I gave up meat. The shit is sickness. It's the #1 cause of Cardiovascular Disease, Cancer and a array of other diseases. Iv'e never been sick or been to the doctor in years.

[TheAntFather]

[TheAntFather]

You were bred to eat meat. It's not bad for you if you do it right.

Grass fed and organic is the real deal. Countless studies out there to prove it. The "who knows" argument is nonsense, you can just up and say "who knows" about anything. The stuff you don't want in commercial meat resides in the fat of those animals, and all that crap effs with your endocrine system (hormones), making you fat, moody, tired, etc. Red meat is not causing cancer -- it's all the crap non-organic factory farms put in their animals.

Vegan will get you less flabby, but at the expense of a lot of protein/iron and even worse, a lot of enjoyment.

Everything you said on here is wrong on so many levels. If you only knew the truth about protein. Your body CAN'T store more than 30 grams of protein a day. This is the weight of about 10 pennies. Protein is not important for your body like you think it is. You're body can survive without protein for 75 days. Show me anywhere where anyone has died of a disease called Protein or Chicken Flesh deficiency.

You just here people dying of heart attacks, strokes and cancer. Which is everything that is caused by Simply Animal flesh, or meat. Just cut out meat and you'll easily live a longer and pain free life.

[MoMoneyMoVaughn]

When a sandwich comes calling, you gotta accept the charges.

[TheAntFather]

i have gone years without meat.
never been a regular meat eater.

anyone over 30 who cuts down significantly
on meat and alcohol will lose weight and look younger.

Exactly, I'm 34 and people swear up and down that I'm 24. I still have a full head of hair. No receding hairline like you see in people who eat meat regularly. People don't know that one of the signs of cancer is a receding hairline and a loss of hair over the years. The more you eat meat, the more you destroy your body. Most people don't know they have cancer until they are so sick that they have to go to a doctor to get diagnosed, when the fact is that they had cancer for years! Kids are dying of cancer now. All they eat is fking meat nowadays. The shit is sickening.

[TheAntFather]

lol at grains, a vegen that doesnt supplement will end up a dead vegen.

Meat is bad when cooked to well done.

Listen to vids of peter glidden, joel wallach and david wolfe

they are the ones telling the truth.

Not true at all. It's sickening how the government who makes 400 Billion a year in Pharmaceutical sales and Billions donated in cancer research have the public fooled. Mostly anything cooked creates Acrylamide; which is a cancer causing and neurotoxic chemical. The only healthy way of cooking is boiling and steaming.

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/07/17/acrylamide.aspx

[TheAntFather]

boozer57, I've been Vegetarian for 10 years and Vegan for the past 5. Idk what it is exactly that you wish to know but if you have any questions or anything fire away and I'll do my best to help you. I will admit that when I first started I wasn't doing it for ethical reasons, as it sounds like you might be, but rather merely as a health experiment that worked so well that I stuck with it to this day. Anyone that says it's impossible to be a Vegan is quite frankly an ignorant fool. A simple google search will yield a list of people who are Vegans and profoundly more successful than everyone on this site added together. From movie stars, to musicians, to high profile athletes and world class doctors.

Well said.

[Ralphie Halves]

Everything you said on here is wrong on so many levels. If you only knew the truth about protein. Your body CAN'T store more than 30 grams of protein a day. This is the weight of about 10 pennies. Protein is not important for your body like you think it is. You're body can survive without protein for 75 days. Show me anywhere where anyone has died of a disease called Protein or Chicken Flesh deficiency.

You just here people dying of heart attacks, strokes and cancer. Which is everything that is caused by Simply Animal flesh, or meat. Just cut out meat and you'll easily live a longer and pain free life.

First off, it's 30g of protein per meal, not a day, and some of that depends on your size. You can survive without a lot of protein, but optimal health requires it. And where did I say it would kill you? Where did you come from?

Much of India is vegetarian, and they often die of cancer too, so let's not say dumb things like simply meat causes cancer.

And I already mentioned earlier that it's the chemicals that are found in the fat of factory farmed meat that is the main problem of a lot of those diseases. Not all farms go this route now thankfully, and there are much better options.

[TheAntFather]

First off, it's 30g of protein per meal, not a day, and some of that depends on your size. You can survive without a lot of protein, but optimal health requires it. And where did I say it would kill you? Where did you come from?

Much of India is vegetarian, and they often die of cancer too, so let's not say dumb things like simply meat causes cancer.

And I already mentioned earlier that it's the chemicals that are found in the fat of factory farmed meat that is the main problem of a lot of those diseases. Not all farms go this route now thankfully, and there are much better options.

Just watch what the real doctor tells you on post #28. He's done open heart surgery and bypass surgeries for years on people. He's drawn peoples blood for decades. You're going to tell me you know more than this doctor on how much protein your body needs?

It's a proven fact that USA is #1 in the world in Osteoporosis. Osteoporosis is caused by the over consumption of protein; which protein is not all important for your body like you think it is and how USA has the public fooled that you need it so badly. The human body CAN'T store over 30 GRAMS of protein a day. If you take in more than this daily, you are slowing dissolving your bones with all the Arachidonic Acid that is in all animal protein.

Also, please watch "FORKS OVER KNIVES" on Netflix. It will change your life. It has 2 Doctors (1 from Yale and 1 from Cornell) that explain how meat is the #1 Cause of Cancer in the world.