Palestine, Texas. Police involved shooting.

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  • JMobile
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 08-21-10
    • 19074

    #1
    Palestine, Texas. Police involved shooting.




    The guy who was shot fit the description of a theft that occurred at Walmart. Guy was hiding at the restroom inside an Applebee's and was acting strange and nervous. When he went outside, he pulled out what looked like a handgun and got shot.

    After math: Handgun was a BB gun (but no orange tip). Guy's brother said he wanted to change his life around. No riots.
    Bottom line: Deal with the consequences and make better decisions if you get a second chance.

    #AllLivesMatter
  • sourtwist
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 11-10-12
    • 9364

    #2
    Jade helm preview?
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    • Ra77er
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 06-20-11
      • 10969

      #3
      Mobile why did the guy not tell them he had a bb gun in his waist? Unbelievable
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      • itchypickle
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 11-05-09
        • 21452

        #4
        Clean shoot. Idiot.

        Glad there was a camera on the cop. Now people see just how fast shitt goes sideways.
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        • JMobile
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 08-21-10
          • 19074

          #5
          Originally posted by Ra77er
          Mobile why did the guy not tell them he had a bb gun in his waist? Unbelievable
          That's just part of the consequences. If it looks like a gun, it must be a gun. Guy becomes a threat making it justifiable to give it to him.
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          • DiggityDaggityDo
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 11-30-08
            • 81450

            #6
            Stay Muddy, My friends.
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            • Ra77er
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              • 06-20-11
              • 10969

              #7
              Originally posted by JMobile
              That's just part of the consequences. If it looks like a gun, it must be a gun. Guy becomes a threat making it justifiable to give it to him.

              Yea I agree Mobile but I'm trying to put myself in that guys shoes. How on earth after walking from the pisser all the way outside and he can't say hey I got a bb gun in the waist?? I know why the cops shot his dumbass I just can't believe the guy was that stupid.

              My only tin foil hat guess is....he had been arrested previously or decided he didn't wanna go to jail and basically cop suicide deal.
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              • jtoler
                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                • 12-17-13
                • 30967

                #8
                Nothing to see here only a stupid person would pull a stunt like that.
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                • Roadtrip635
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 12-07-10
                  • 6129

                  #9
                  Have you seen those stupid iPhone gun-shaped cases? Those will get someone killed guaranteed


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                  • jjgold
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 07-20-05
                    • 388179

                    #10
                    great police work

                    idiot guy
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                    • Auto Donk
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 09-03-13
                      • 43558

                      #11
                      "never bring a bb gun and a "stay muddy, my friends" t-shirt to a .38 special gunfight"

                      justified shooting.....

                      yet unnecessary shooting. should have had him "turn around, hands on your head" in the shitter.... "put hands behind your back," cuff him, search him, find fake gun and remove it. walk him out and put him in car.... he'd still be alive, and the cops wouldn't be dealing with the emotional impact of having killed him........
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                      • TheLock
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 04-06-08
                        • 14427

                        #12
                        Quiet thread for cop haters
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                        • recon1
                          SBR MVP
                          • 08-13-12
                          • 2579

                          #13
                          Guy was mentally impaired and apparently wanted to die. Very sad a human goes this low, but it will get worse as economical reality sets in. Cops had no choice and if i were on IA board they'd be cleared in 24 hours.
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                          • recon1
                            SBR MVP
                            • 08-13-12
                            • 2579

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Auto Donk
                            "never bring a bb gun and a "stay muddy, my friends" t-shirt to a .38 special gunfight"

                            justified shooting.....

                            yet unnecessary shooting. should have had him "turn around, hands on your head" in the shitter.... "put hands behind your back," cuff him, search him, find fake gun and remove it. walk him out and put him in car.... he'd still be alive, and the cops wouldn't be dealing with the emotional impact of having killed him........
                            Double edged sword Donker. Cuff a suspect and people and his attorney will cry; 'Cops treated client like suspect without knowing if they had right guy" 'They had it out for my client from square one' etc etc.
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                            • Auto Donk
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 09-03-13
                              • 43558

                              #15
                              Cop already gave the defense that by saying, upon first approaching, he was a suspect, ie., defense already had that giving to them by the cop, irrespective of what happens next. Besides, I'd much rather deal with a defense attorney making that argument than with what unfolded here.... they can "detain" and disarm without arresting, which is what I feel they should have done here....

                              Quite certain cop training includes never turn back on an individual you have already informed is a suspect in a crime, which he immediately did upon first approaching him.... Cop lucky he didn't have a real gun as he walked out of the restaurant right in front of the suspect with his back to him. Doubt the ladycop behind would have been able to stop him had he made a move, and even is she did, the other cop would be directly in her line of fire..... bad police procedure here........
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                              • recon1
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                                • 08-13-12
                                • 2579

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Auto Donk
                                Cop already gave the defense that by saying, upon first approaching, he was a suspect, ie., defense already had that giving to them by the cop, irrespective of what happens next. Besides, I'd much rather deal with a defense attorney making that argument than with what unfolded here.... they can "detain" and disarm without arresting, which is what I feel they should have done here....

                                Quite certain cop training includes never turn back on an individual you have already informed is a suspect in a crime, which he immediately did upon first approaching him.... Cop lucky he didn't have a real gun as he walked out of the restaurant right in front of the suspect with his back to him. Doubt the ladycop behind would have been able to stop him had he made a move, and even is she did, the other cop would be directly in her line of fire..... bad police procedure here........
                                Yeah, i noticed male officer was walking ahead with back turned, but the male officer did slide the forks and knife set sitting on table further out of reach. HAHA
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                                • itchypickle
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 11-05-09
                                  • 21452

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Auto Donk
                                  Cop already gave the defense that by saying, upon first approaching, he was a suspect, ie., defense already had that giving to them by the cop, irrespective of what happens next. Besides, I'd much rather deal with a defense attorney making that argument than with what unfolded here.... they can "detain" and disarm without arresting, which is what I feel they should have done here....

                                  Quite certain cop training includes never turn back on an individual you have already informed is a suspect in a crime, which he immediately did upon first approaching him.... Cop lucky he didn't have a real gun as he walked out of the restaurant right in front of the suspect with his back to him. Doubt the ladycop behind would have been able to stop him had he made a move, and even is she did, the other cop would be directly in her line of fire..... bad police procedure here........
                                  I'm with you on the back turning. I could see it if the female cop in the rear had him either in cuffs or by the arm leading him out, SOME form of control/restraint, but definitely not just walking like a normal scenario. Guess they did;t want to 'offend the patrons' in the Applebee's by 'being rough' on him....you see the big 400 pound chick eating her meal as they walk past....she was waiting to catch them interrupting her feast.
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                                  • itchypickle
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 11-05-09
                                    • 21452

                                    #18
                                    Thank GOD the dude was white though. Even with the cameras we's have heard they manipulated parts of the footage and the one cop planted the gun on him to make it seem like he pulled it himself because they had it out for him. Or they didn't need to fire all the shots they did, one would have been sufficient. Or they needed to have asked him to drop it first, or better yet asked for a timeout to inspect the weapon first before they proceeded to shoot first.
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                                    • itchypickle
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 11-05-09
                                      • 21452

                                      #19
                                      Did the guy have on a Sheriff's ball cap?

                                      Also the lead cop walked right past a knife on the table and thought of moving it but didn't....sloppy up to the shooting but great work once it kicked off.
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                                      • DiggityDaggityDo
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 11-30-08
                                        • 81450

                                        #20
                                        Good work by the male cop.

                                        The lady cop was too busy screaming, and the guy was already dead by the time she started shooting him.
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                                        • Auto Donk
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 09-03-13
                                          • 43558

                                          #21
                                          pretty sure I saw an aTm symbol on the side of his cap..... doubt this dude was an Aggie tho.......

                                          i'd have to go watch it again, that recall was from this morning's viewing, and i was still a tad bit hung over......
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                                          • Auto Donk
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 09-03-13
                                            • 43558

                                            #22
                                            ps. to the cop..... "pssstt.... hey buddy, you might wanna think about reloading.... pointing that empty gun at him ain't gonna do yo any good if he suddenly sits up and pulls out a daisy red ryder from under his shirt....."

                                            haha... bustin the cops balls, his adrenaline was thru the f'n roof; he was still processing what he'd just done, couldn't possibly realize what a tool he was gonna look like aiming an empty weapon at a dead suspect...........
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                                            • Auto Donk
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 09-03-13
                                              • 43558

                                              #23
                                              love the wit of the female officer: "let me tell you what page we're on..... [awkward silence.....] Get outside!!!! That's what page we're on......"

                                              she was all hell bent on exercising, in the words of Cartman, her "AUTH - OR- IH- TIEE!!!!" when the guy stumped her with his "I'm just waiting for ya'll to get on the same page" comment....

                                              her "adeptness" in responding reminded me of this guy:

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                                              • brooks85
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 01-05-09
                                                • 44709

                                                #24
                                                always get the same sheep defending these morons

                                                here you go sheepies, get to work!

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                                                • recon1
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 08-13-12
                                                  • 2579

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by brooks85
                                                  always get the same sheep defending these morons

                                                  here you go sheepies, get to work!


                                                  Two plain-clothes who are apparently only armed with sidearms tries to stop the suspect in red. Cop tries grabbing his wrist to place in cuffs and suspect throws hands up first. Fist-fight ensues, totally legit.
                                                  Uniforms arrive then they take to ground and cuff. Armed with only a firearm what else is cop supposed to do? Suspect was not going anywhere. Video does not show "Everything" as videographer claims.
                                                  I'm no sheep, but i do expect rule of law to rule all day, every day. Regardless if your pants sag to the politician in a 1k suit.
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                                                  • brooks85
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 01-05-09
                                                    • 44709

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by recon1
                                                    Two plain-clothes who are apparently only armed with sidearms tries to stop the suspect in red. Cop tries grabbing his wrist to place in cuffs and suspect throws hands up first. Fist-fight ensues, totally legit.
                                                    Uniforms arrive then they take to ground and cuff. Armed with only a firearm what else is cop supposed to do? Suspect was not going anywhere. Video does not show "Everything" as videographer claims.
                                                    I'm no sheep, but i do expect rule of law to rule all day, every day. Regardless if your pants sag to the politician in a 1k suit.
                                                    you're a moron and stop lying, you're not a kid anymore.
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                                                    • DiggityDaggityDo
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 11-30-08
                                                      • 81450

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by brooks85
                                                      always get the same sheep defending these morons

                                                      here you go sheepies, get to work!

                                                      How many times did that annoying fukker say "I got everythang on camera"?
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                                                      • frostno98
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 09-11-07
                                                        • 9769

                                                        #28
                                                        Wow, I can't believe how stupid that dude is? Man, you only live once, and a ton of living to do and things to still see in the world. The guy must of been really depress, sad story.
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                                                        • CountNo_Account
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                                                          • 12-04-12
                                                          • 3410

                                                          #29
                                                          Bad police work.suicide by cop. SMH
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                                                          • Kermit
                                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                            • 09-27-10
                                                            • 32555

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by brooks85
                                                            always get the same sheep defending these morons

                                                            here you go sheepies, get to work!

                                                            Here is the first punch thrown.

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                                                            • Kermit
                                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                              • 09-27-10
                                                              • 32555

                                                              #31
                                                              And not surprising that you post a video that has the entire beginning edited off where the guy is trying to bullshit the cop.
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                                                              • GunShard
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                                                                • 03-05-10
                                                                • 10031

                                                                #32
                                                                Suicide by cop.
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                                                                • brooks85
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 01-05-09
                                                                  • 44709

                                                                  #33
                                                                  actually you silly sheep I posted that video for a reason because I knew one of you sheep would work to defend it hence why I said "get to work."

                                                                  The beginning of the video is completely irrelevant which is why I left it out for one of you sheep to bring it up and you did lol "where the guy is trying to bullshit the cop" and that is relevant how?

                                                                  The fact is you couldn't even begin to understand a logical debate on this but ends with the cop acting completely irresponsible but you're too much of a sheep to see that as I proved with the "get to work." You went to work without any logic obviously.
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                                                                  • Kermit
                                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                    • 09-27-10
                                                                    • 32555

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by brooks85
                                                                    actually you silly sheep I posted that video for a reason because I knew one of you sheep would work to defend it hence why I said "get to work."
                                                                    The beginning of the video is completely irrelevant which is why I left it out for one of you sheep to bring it up and you did lol "where the guy is trying to bullshit the cop" and that is relevant how?
                                                                    It's relevant becasue it shows how patient and restrained that the cop was while this asshole is trying to give him a load of shit.

                                                                    Sorry I cracked your video. I had a thread about it and had already posted the pic of the punch posted to another tiddly-wink who said the guy was scared to fight back when in fact he threw the first blow.
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                                                                    • brooks85
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                                                                      • 01-05-09
                                                                      • 44709

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Kermit
                                                                      It's relevant becasue it shows how patient and restrained that the cop was while this asshole is trying to give him a load of shit.

                                                                      Sorry I cracked your video. I had a thread about it and had already posted the pic of the punch posted to another tiddly-wink who said the guy was scared to fight back when in fact he threw the first blow.
                                                                      try to use some logic, again completely irrelevant info

                                                                      you didn't crack the video, you walked right into my trap you moron lol, it is not about who threw the first punch you dummy
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