Anyone else see all b.s. in this?

[R.P. McMurphy]

Lol Nasher these guys clowning you for whatever reason. Yes $110 k annually is a very nice salary and probably at the very high end of middle class. Certainly more than majority of Americans make and last I checked about 2.5x more than avg college grad. You can live at least modestly on that wage in any city in Merica and very well in most.

[PaperTrail07]

depends where you live...110K in New York HA....small midwest city....you can act and spend like your in the MLB...

Lol Nasher these guys clowning you for whatever reason. Yes $110 k annually is a very nice salary and probably at the very high end of middle class. Certainly more than majority of Americans make and last I checked about 2.5x more than avg college grad. You can live at least modestly on that wage in any city in Merica and very well in most.

[R.P. McMurphy]

Said modestly in any city and quite well in most. I lived in L.A. for several years and 110k would have been just fine. Course I'm speaking for a single person or couple....if a person has kids that's another story and problem and maybe shouldn't have made that gamble lol

[IlluminatedOne]

The new question here could be: For those of us who are awake, what change would WE like to experience now. The particular system that is in operation now only breeds more codependency. This country (USA) along with pretty much every nation on this planet operate from a codependent point of view. You need to seek me out in order to..... In my humble opinion if one desires change bad enough, he or she will BECOME that change. Many are not ready for change, most are so addicted to the "drama". Until the illusion of separation comes to an end, this way of "life" will continue.

[R.P. McMurphy]

Good post yeah codepency is one problem in this country. However part of my thread title ALL this b.s. encapsulates a lot for me. Take the shooting in S.C. yesterday at the church which has sparked yet again all the gun control b.s. As usual we don't look deeper into anything or what's impacting so many of these people to just lose it and go off.

I'm no gun person not the outdoorsy red neck type and don't feel a need owning 1 for defense either. That's my personal choice but I'm not against guns and see it as our right to bear arms as written by our forefathers. Blame the fukking gun all you want but hate is your heart and crazy in the brain folks. If you wanna truly harm people a damn gun isn't necessary pretty sure a 10 year old half wit could figure out a can of gasoline and match could have taken that church down just as easy. Moral to story if there is a will there is a way!

And let's not fool ourselves guns will ALWAYS be in this country come hell high water. Ban them see what happens and watch the importation, distribution, violence that comes in aftermath when flowing thru on black market like drugs. Not to mention most would probably just be in hands of law enforcement and true hardcore criminals which is not a comforting thought either.

[IlluminatedOne]

I understand the "bs" that is going on around here and other parts of the world, and that "bs" has to with the OUR reluctance to part ways with this silly illusion, WE ARE SEPARATE FROM ONE-ANOTHER. NO THING could be further from the truth. I just chimed in looking for like minded people who want to create change, instead of whining about it. Solid post by the way, not many peeps on here question anything

[scumbag]

And you really need to think before you spew your verbal diarrhea. Socialism refers to a theory that resources of the world or country being owned in common by the population, as opposed to for sale and profit which is capitalism.
Upper class refers to elite. Middle class refers to those (usually working professionals) and has more than enough capital to live on, but can't compete with the elite.

Under socialism there are no classes, a society living with no private property.

Social classes has nothing to do with socialism you idiot, a social class refers to a group of individuals who hold a similar position in the economic system of production.

Apples an oranges retard, turn off Bill Maher, you drink too much kool ade and not capable of original thought like so many others that walk around muttering catch phrase talking points like "we must get down to zero carbons" or "Hillary says this" and "Al Gore says that" so it's fact

so... who is suggesting socialism? you dumb cun.t

[scumbag]

Lol Nasher these guys clowning you for whatever reason. Yes $110 k annually is a very nice salary and probably at the very high end of middle class. Certainly more than majority of Americans make and last I checked about 2.5x more than avg college grad. You can live at least modestly on that wage in any city in Merica and very well in most.

what does this matter? bernie isn't coming for his middle-class ass. he's not rich or elite and he never will be. he's a penetrating idiot who buys into class politics that his 100k somehow means he's better than some single mom working two jobs for 30k.

[R.P. McMurphy]

Well higher taxes can screw anyone really those who make ov around 75k do start feeling it more. Think Nash was saying he won't be contributing to politician "Bernie's" campaign fund is how I took it. And yeah the super elite wealth are who really pitch in and buy/own "Bernie" to some degree and influence policy however these guys seek out those $10, $20, $100 contributions as well it all adds up from the middle class and poor.

[R.P. McMurphy]

Donations of any kind should be looked at with a sharp eye. Most these charitable orgs begging for $ to help a cause is also full of b.s. lol. Sad but true generally pennies on a dollar go to actually helping the real cause once going thru all filters. What I really love about these smooth hustlers tho is they are taking it to the street now and getting in your face.

Can't even pump gas now if you prepay or go in for a soda with out some shithead asking if you wanna donate an extra buck for whatever cause when checking out. Smooth thing about it is they know their is peer pressure or wanting to look like a good samaritan with others around so it encourages you to donate. It's across the board fast food joints, gas stations, dept stores all fronting this racket and yeah it's only a buck but if you get hit up 5x a day it adds up. And aside from the $ I just don't like being hustled. Fukk them too I don't give em shit

[Killer_Demo]

I am the poster child for middle class.
110K plus perks, I make my mortgage and every other bill with ease because I am smart with my money.

Techological advances can not eliminate my job because that is exactly what I do for a living.
Even if I did lose my job tomorrow, which I can't because where I work I'm locked into a contract for another 12 years, I could make the same money working for myself.

I can eliminate any virus on any small business computer or home computer while charging you 85 dollars an hour to do so.
Because 90 percent of the population are either too stupid or too lazy to learn how to do it themselves.

And that's just for starters.

While I'm at it Pauly, which one are you, too stupid or too lazy?
My money is on too stupid.

Nasher just sh!t on him

[downsouth]

I am the poster child for middle class.
110K plus perks, I make my mortgage and every other bill with ease because I am smart with my money.

Techological advances can not eliminate my job because that is exactly what I do for a living.
Even if I did lose my job tomorrow, which I can't because where I work I'm locked into a contract for another 12 years, I could make the same money working for myself.

I can eliminate any virus on any small business computer or home computer while charging you 85 dollars an hour to do so.
Because 90 percent of the population are either too stupid or too lazy to learn how to do it themselves.

And that's just for starters.

While I'm at it Pauly, which one are you, too stupid or too lazy?
My money is on too stupid.

I need someone to clean up my computer at home. I am both too lazy and stupid to figure it out for myself. Can I pay you in betpoints?

[PAULYPOKER]

I can eliminate any virus on any small business computer or home computer while charging you 85 dollars an hour to do so.
Because 90 percent of the population are either too stupid or too lazy to learn how to do it themselves.

And that's just for starters.

While I'm at it Pauly, which one are you, too stupid or too lazy?
My money is on too stupid.

I hope you're not serious..

I had many viruses on my computer which I got rid of all on my own..

I never had any computer tech education in my life..

Lol.....

I guess I'll start advertising my expertise as I once thought was fukkin common sense,Lol......

[R.P. McMurphy]

Pauly stop being a condescending troll idiot. Good gawd there are able bodied people out there who pay others to mow their fukking yard. This is Merica if you can make 100k a year doing some basic legal service for others more power to ya I say!

[PAULYPOKER]

You better forget you ever saw the boogie man Murpher...

Go back to sleep cause you ain't changin shit....

[R.P. McMurphy]

Never said I was dipshit? This thread is about recognizing and being alert to what's truly happening today. Neither you nor myself have the power or ability to truly change or influence things mentioned in this thread. Now pump the brakes pseudo tuff guy and let your hard on for Nash relax

[PaperTrail07]

He is 100% right....pauly...bigger business people dont have time to figure out computers....tech companies can charge whatever they want....you arent giving yourself enough credit i guess....

I hope you're not serious..

I had many viruses on my computer which I got rid of all on my own..

I never had any computer tech education in my life..

Lol.....

I guess I'll start advertising my expertise as I once thought was fukkin common sense,Lol......

[meader99]

He is 100% right....pauly...bigger business people dont have time to figure out computers....tech companies can charge whatever they want....you arent giving yourself enough credit i guess....

Correct. The rich create jobs. Nobody here has ever been hired by a poor person.

[scumbag]

Correct. The rich create jobs. Nobody here has ever been hired by a poor person.

you don't understand simple economics; google aggregate demand. the real job creators are the people spending 100% of their income (i.e. the working-class).

[meader99]

you don't understand simple economics; google aggregate demand. the real job creators are the people spending 100% of their income (i.e. the working-class).

So, you've been hired by a poor person?

[scumbag]

So, you've been hired by a poor person?

if working-class has extra money business hire. if the working-class can barely pay the rent, business don't hire as much; see how that works guy?

it's not all or one. many things go into job creation. businesses, consumers, government (either through actually hiring people for jobs directly or creating jobs by spending money the creation of infrastructure which allows private business to succeed).

go pick up a penetrating book guy.

[Ra77er]

You need the capital to start the business in the first place let alone create jobs. If we were all middle class we would be a bunch of hamburgers looking for a bun.

[scumbag]

nobody disputes your first sentence.

but if you don't think that aggregate demand creates jobs too -- you'd be mistaken.

[Ra77er]

I do think aggregate demand can create jobs as well but I think it is a by- product of big money. Scumbag I liked the G code avatar fyi. Do not politically deconstruct my post as I am just a simpleton on a gambling forum. I hope all your dreams will be realized in your lifetime.

[meader99]

if working-class has extra money business hire. if the working-class can barely pay the rent, business don't hire as much; see how that works guy?

it's not all or one. many things go into job creation. businesses, consumers, government (either through actually hiring people for jobs directly or creating jobs by spending money the creation of infrastructure which allows private business to succeed).

go pick up a penetrating book guy.

If the working class don't have jobs, they have no money to spend. Rich people hire folks to do the jobs they don't want to do. Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

[rkelly110]

If the working class don't have jobs, they have no money to spend. Rich people hire folks to do the jobs they don't want to do. Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

So do the middle class. 99% of my jobs comes from working class folk. You see landscapers a dime a dozen on the
highways, parked along the road doing residential or small business lawns. I see many small contractors at Lowes
buying stuff for their customers projects.

Lazy or a lack of knowledge to do it themselves has exploded the service industry. Most, if not all are the working
middle class creating the most jobs.

Point is, you don't have to suck on the penis of the rich to get ahead in life, they are irrelevant.

[Ra77er]

I wouldn't say they are irrelevant Rkelly but interesting points nonetheless. Someone who wants to work harder than the next guy should be rewarded in my opinion. The problem is when the rich think that everyone should have the same desires/goals/drive when in reality some really do enjoy doing small contract work or just being the garbage guy.

The worst kind are the ones that work for just a paycheck and expect others to carry their weight. Poor workers kill businesses imho. (just as an aside)

Personally I would love to own a small farm with 1 cow and 2 women, amazing food grown from my garden, and mlb package on cable (direct tv ). The haters would point at any flaw possible or tell you that you aren't really living because your girls are ugly or your vehicle isn't a 2018 hybrid or you should be paying taxes to the government or you should have a real job etc. Even if I never reach my modest dreams, I intend on enjoying every step of the way.

True Kings could be found in any environment.