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  • jjgold
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-20-05
    • 388179

    #1
    Defensive gun use caught on camera
  • Kermit
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    • 09-27-10
    • 32555

    #2
    Nice. This isn't from the U.S. though is it?
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    • DiggityDaggityDo
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      • 11-30-08
      • 81450

      #3
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      • Auto Donk
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 09-03-13
        • 43558

        #4
        the second this mo fo goes back to his car, then back to the door, all defense goes right out the door as well for any additional shooting.....
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        • recon1
          SBR MVP
          • 08-13-12
          • 2579

          #5
          A harrowing defensive gun use was captured on home surveillance cameras last week. [Scroll down for video]
          In the video, a group of would-be robbers attempted to rob a couple as they pulled into their garage in Brazil. The group can be seen approaching the garage just as the door was about to close. One suspect stopped the door and approached the vehicle.
          When the driver’s side door opened, the suspect was greeted with a hail of gunfire from the driver. The suspect and his accomplices immediately fled. The suspect who approached the vehicle was shot multiple times and ultimately died of his injuries after fleeing the garage.


          Read more: http://controversialtimes.com/news/c...#ixzz3apBd2YMf
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          • NrmlCurvSurfr
            SBR MVP
            • 04-05-10
            • 2896

            #6
            Originally posted by Auto Donk
            the second this mo fo goes back to his car, then back to the door, all defense goes right out the door as well for any additional shooting.....
            Hes still on his property, any reasonable person would reload and make sure they aren't returning...looks like that's what he was doing. Not like he took off down the street...
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            • Kermit
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              • 09-27-10
              • 32555

              #7
              Says the homeowner was an off duty cop. Boy these criminals really know how to pick their targets.

              The robber(now deceased) looks like he actually did get a shot off as he was being fed lead.
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              • a4u2fear
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 01-29-10
                • 8147

                #8
                You can shoot to defend but shooting someone running away from you will only cost you lawyer fees and jail time
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                • Auto Donk
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 09-03-13
                  • 43558

                  #9
                  Originally posted by NrmlCurvSurfr
                  Hes still on his property, any reasonable person would reload and make sure they aren't returning...looks like that's what he was doing. Not like he took off down the street...
                  trust me, even in texas, he starts poppin off again out the garage door, down they alley, he goes to jail..... unless I'm defending, then he'll get a pretrial diversion if it's his first offense (actual case), deferred adjudication if his 2nd crim offense; probation if his 3d

                  just b/c he's still on his property doesn't mean he gets to take pot shots at fleeling felons running down the road........
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                  • Kermit
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                    • 09-27-10
                    • 32555

                    #10
                    Originally posted by a4u2fear
                    You can shoot to defend but shooting someone running away from you will only cost you lawyer fees and jail time
                    This was down in Brazil though. I think they play by a different set of rules.
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                    • Auto Donk
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                      • 09-03-13
                      • 43558

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Kermit
                      Says the homeowner was an off duty cop. Boy these criminals really know how to pick their targets.

                      The robber(now deceased) looks like he actually did get a shot off as he was being fed lead.
                      the best one of these "rob the cops" stories happened somewhere in central tex, killien or maybe even near Wacko, when some thugs decide to rob a breakfast joint like Ihop or denny's, and come bustin in, only to find 40-50 cops holding some kind of monthly breakfast meeting......
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                      • Kermit
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                        • 09-27-10
                        • 32555

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Auto Donk
                        the best one of these "rob the cops" stories happened somewhere in central tex, killien or maybe even near Wacko, when some thugs decide to rob a breakfast joint like Ihop or denny's, and come bustin in, only to find 40-50 cops holding some kind of monthly breakfast meeting......
                        ^^^I remember some dipshit that tried to rob a bar full of cops.

                        Here is another off duty Brazilian cop taking care of business.

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                        • NrmlCurvSurfr
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                          • 04-05-10
                          • 2896

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Auto Donk
                          trust me, even in texas, he starts poppin off again out the garage door, down they alley, he goes to jail..... unless I'm defending, then he'll get a pretrial diversion if it's his first offense (actual case), deferred adjudication if his 2nd crim offense; probation if his 3d

                          just b/c he's still on his property doesn't mean he gets to take pot shots at fleeling felons running down the road........
                          i didn't see the pot shots..I only saw him go back to his car and then stand watch at the garage door...but yeah if he took pot shots down the road, that is not defense.
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                          • Kermit
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                            • 09-27-10
                            • 32555

                            #14
                            Then you have these fools in Chicago.

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                            • The Kraken
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                              • 12-25-11
                              • 28918

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Auto Donk
                              trust me, even in texas, he starts poppin off again out the garage door, down they alley, he goes to jail..... unless I'm defending, then he'll get a pretrial diversion if it's his first offense (actual case), deferred adjudication if his 2nd crim offense; probation if his 3d

                              just b/c he's still on his property doesn't mean he gets to take pot shots at fleeling felons running down the road........
                              james ersland
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                              • jjgold
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 07-20-05
                                • 388179

                                #16
                                good work on all these killings

                                If you try and rob there could be a hefty price
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                                • Monitor-Tan
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 02-20-11
                                  • 4460

                                  #17
                                  In the US, if he hit that guy who was at 11 O'clock on the screen, running away, he'd be in jail, that's not self defense when the guy's running away.
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                                  • brooks85
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 01-05-09
                                    • 44709

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Monitor-Tan
                                    In the US, if he hit that guy who was at 11 O'clock on the screen, running away, he'd be in jail, that's not self defense when the guy's running away.
                                    true, only cops are allowed to do that.
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                                    • Monitor-Tan
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 02-20-11
                                      • 4460

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by brooks85
                                      true, only cops are allowed to do that.
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                                      • statnerds
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 09-23-09
                                        • 4047

                                        #20
                                        the world truly is shit

                                        great find though Gold

                                        ya know i used to detest the fact that you where the smiling clown leading these clueless posters (sheep) to the slaughter, but i have changed my stance

                                        just gettin your hustle on

                                        i can't hate you for that
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                                        • Fidel_CashFlow
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 12-03-12
                                          • 53970

                                          #21
                                          man that dude was pretty fast and efficient with that pistol
                                          notice how (in a split second) he realized the first guy with the pistol was neutralized
                                          he turned and started plugging at the other 2
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                                          • The Kraken
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                                            • 12-25-11
                                            • 28918

                                            #22
                                            This guys life sux

                                            he has to put a camera in his garage and carry a gun at all times

                                            Everything in his life is based around fear

                                            Guy would fit in well in America
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                                            • Fidel_CashFlow
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 12-03-12
                                              • 53970

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by The Kraken
                                              This guys life sux

                                              he has to put a camera in his garage and carry a gun at all times

                                              Everything in his life is based around fear

                                              Guy would fit in well in America

                                              guess you could put it that way then

                                              but if you asked him he would prolly tell you he's just happy to be alive

                                              people get killed in armed robberies in Brazil a heck a lot more than they do here in the States

                                              That fella did what he had to do to protect himself once others randomly came into his life to cause chaos
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                                              • The Kraken
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                                                • 12-25-11
                                                • 28918

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Fidel_CashFlow
                                                guess you could put it that way then

                                                but if you asked him he would prolly tell you he's just happy to be alive

                                                people get killed in armed robberies in Brazil a heck a lot more than they do here in the States

                                                That fella did what he had to do to protect himself once others randomly came into his life to cause chaos
                                                I see where you're coming from and dont disagree.

                                                Ultimately, different strokes for different folks.

                                                But this guy obviously lives in fear and that sux. He's obviously taking measures to ensure his safety and it paid off but could you imagine always checking your six?

                                                And imagine how his life has changed. He killed a man, thats gotta chamge a man. Especially because his fear has become realized.

                                                In my book, thats a sucky life. And in hid book, he's probably happier than a fly on shit because he's alive. Even though it's a false dilemma to assume he was going to die or even that his life was in imminent danger. Could've just been a simple robbery but thats off topic and for another thread. Point being, he's happy with his life and I think it sux.

                                                i used to carry a gun, had my CCL (everyone in Oklahoma did) and I was always a bit paranoid I'd have to use it. I would catch myself scanning or even just thinking about it because I had it. Since I've moved I tuck it away under my bed and feel much more liberated from an irrational fear.

                                                For the record, I have no qualms with what he did. I'm a staunch advocate for concealed carry and always will be, even though I no longer carry. Lifetime NrA member. Got the hat to prove it and the non-stip spam phone calls daily
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                                                • Kermit
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                                                  • 09-27-10
                                                  • 32555

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by The Kraken
                                                  I see where you're coming from and dont disagree.

                                                  Ultimately, different strokes for different folks.

                                                  But this guy obviously lives in fear and that sux. He's obviously taking measures to ensure his safety and it paid off but could you imagine always checking your six?

                                                  And imagine how his life has changed. He killed a man, thats gotta chamge a man. Especially because his fear has become realized.


                                                  He acted pretty much the way I would expect a Brazilian cop to act. Considering how bad the crime is down there, it's probably not the first time he plugged someone.
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                                                  • jjgold
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 07-20-05
                                                    • 388179

                                                    #26
                                                    I think you're going to start seeing more and more people carry guns… Gun business is booming and busier than ever before you cannot even buy ammunition
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                                                    • NrmlCurvSurfr
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                                                      • 04-05-10
                                                      • 2896

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Monitor-Tan
                                                      In the US, if he hit that guy who was at 11 O'clock on the screen, running away, he'd be in jail, that's not self defense when the guy's running away.
                                                      If I'm on a jury, I don't expect the homeowner to distinguish whether the home invaders are running away or running for cover, especially in a 3 on 1 situation...

                                                      I don't know where you live, but here, you probably wouldn't even see the back of a police car, let alone be taken to jail...
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                                                      • The Kraken
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                                                        • 12-25-11
                                                        • 28918

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Kermit
                                                        He acted pretty much the way I would expect a Brazilian cop to act. Considering how bad the crime is down there, it's probably not the first time he plugged someone.
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                                                        • recon1
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 08-13-12
                                                          • 2579

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by The Kraken
                                                          I see where you're coming from and dont disagree.

                                                          Ultimately, different strokes for different folks.

                                                          But this guy obviously lives in fear and that sux. He's obviously taking measures to ensure his safety and it paid off but could you imagine always checking your six?

                                                          And imagine how his life has changed. He killed a man, thats gotta chamge a man. Especially because his fear has become realized.

                                                          In my book, thats a sucky life. And in hid book, he's probably happier than a fly on shit because he's alive. Even though it's a false dilemma to assume he was going to die or even that his life was in imminent danger. Could've just been a simple robbery but thats off topic and for another thread. Point being, he's happy with his life and I think it sux.

                                                          i used to carry a gun, had my CCL (everyone in Oklahoma did) and I was always a bit paranoid I'd have to use it. I would catch myself scanning or even just thinking about it because I had it. Since I've moved I tuck it away under my bed and feel much more liberated from an irrational fear.

                                                          For the record, I have no qualms with what he did. I'm a staunch advocate for concealed carry and always will be, even though I no longer carry. Lifetime NrA member. Got the hat to prove it and the non-stip spam phone calls daily
                                                          Wo, the crack is a lifetime NRA member? ya don't say? Well, we need clarification, is the NRA you speak of the: National Revolutionaries anarchist association or the: National Rifle association?

                                                          Video proves why men should be armed and ready to defend themselves and family and you still think it's a bad idea to carry? You have so much conflict going on inside your head, you bleed of in-descion and that's what gets people killed is in-descion. The only way the event changed this man was he probably thankful to have had a peacemaker on his person, me personally i'd go eat a turkey sandwhich on rye bread, lightly toasted with tomatoes and never thought twice about the criminal again.
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                                                          • recon1
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 08-13-12
                                                            • 2579

                                                            #30
                                                            This off-duty cop in Brazil not as fast.

                                                            <iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.liveleak.com/ll_embed?f=866a5f5b41af" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
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                                                            • The Kraken
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                                                              • 12-25-11
                                                              • 28918

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by recon1
                                                              Wo, the crack is a lifetime NRA member? ya don't say? Well, we need clarification, is the NRA you speak of the: National Revolutionaries anarchist association or the: National Rifle association?

                                                              Video proves why men should be armed and ready to defend themselves and family and you still think it's a bad idea to carry? You have so much conflict going on inside your head, you bleed of in-descion and that's what gets people killed is in-descion. The only way the event changed this man was he probably thankful to have had a peacemaker on his person, me personally i'd go eat a turkey sandwhich on rye bread, lightly toasted with tomatoes and never thought twice about the criminal again.
                                                              Yep, the NRA.

                                                              Actually, its quite the opposite as what you describe. I have no indecision. I am 100% completely content with my decision to no longer carry and I feel better for it. I will fight for your right for concealed carry. I am in no way opposed to handguns and own many but I carried out of fear. Fear that what happened to those cops would happen to me. The odds are astronomically against any of us ever being in a position where CC would save our lives. Look at the cop you posted, he had his gun, pulled it and still lost. But I would still fight foe your rights.

                                                              I chose to no longer let fear dictate my actuons even if in your eyes it means I might be killed in a robbery.

                                                              Intersting, The NRA touts how gun ownership amd carrying protects the owner and saves lives. As if they're concerned about the citizens. Yet I don't see them telling any of us to stop smoking, stop drinking soda, eat healthier, you know the shit that could save millions of lives. I inderstnad thst's not their platform but it's a great hypocrisy. The NRA is a money-grab just like you think global warming is.
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                                                              • Fidel_CashFlow
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 12-03-12
                                                                • 53970

                                                                #32
                                                                for the most part I think we are all on the same page regarding this video
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                                                                • The Kraken
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                                                                  • 12-25-11
                                                                  • 28918

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Totally. We're off-topic in our disagreements at this point.

                                                                  Interstingly, whether recon admits it or not, we undoubtedly agree on more than we disagree on, we just choose to focus on differences and argue over them.

                                                                  I will convert him to a tree hugging hipster before I leave SBR
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                                                                  • jjgold
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 07-20-05
                                                                    • 388179

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by recon1
                                                                    This off-duty cop in Brazil not as fast.

                                                                    <iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.liveleak.com/ll_embed?f=866a5f5b41af" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
                                                                    that guy got some lucky shot in..I wonder if he died
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                                                                    • recon1
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 08-13-12
                                                                      • 2579

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by The Kraken
                                                                      Yep, the NRA.

                                                                      Actually, its quite the opposite as what you describe. I have no indecision. I am 100% completely content with my decision to no longer carry and I feel better for it. I will fight for your right for concealed carry. I am in no way opposed to handguns and own many but I carried out of fear. Fear that what happened to those cops would happen to me. The odds are astronomically against any of us ever being in a position where CC would save our lives. Look at the cop you posted, he had his gun, pulled it and still lost. But I would still fight foe your rights.

                                                                      I chose to no longer let fear dictate my actuons even if in your eyes it means I might be killed in a robbery.

                                                                      Intersting, The NRA touts how gun ownership amd carrying protects the owner and saves lives. As if they're concerned about the citizens. Yet I don't see them telling any of us to stop smoking, stop drinking soda, eat healthier, you know the shit that could save millions of lives. I inderstnad thst's not their platform but it's a great hypocrisy. The NRA is a money-grab just like you think global warming is.
                                                                      Now, that was a sensibile and fair response.
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