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  • Seaweed
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    • 01-19-12
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    #1
    Are You A Liberal or Conservative or Marxist?
    Please vote to see if there is a connection between picking winners and where you stand
  • jjgold
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    • 07-20-05
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    #2
    I don't even know what that stuff is I am handicapper seaweed and a good one
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    • SharkAA
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      • 11-10-13
      • 2005

      #3
      Liberal/Conservative/Marxist in what? Social beliefs or economic beliefs?
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      • Sawyer
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        • 06-01-09
        • 7761

        #4
        This is a betting forum. A bettor cannot be a marxist.

        I'm not conservative.
        I support free market economy. I don't like socialism.
        I'm liberal, a bloody capitalist. Hell, yeah!
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        • Snowball
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          • 11-15-09
          • 30058

          #5
          I'm a Distributist.
          Intelligent search from Bing makes it easier to quickly find what you’re looking for and rewards you.
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          • N0rB3tz
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            • 02-24-15
            • 2

            #6
            I'm a Marxist for sure, and think capitalism is the root of devil!
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            • Eddy Munny
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              • 08-13-13
              • 15768

              #7
              I've aligned myself with the wig party.
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              • SharkAA
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                • 11-10-13
                • 2005

                #8
                Originally posted by Sawyer
                This is a betting forum. A bettor cannot be a marxist.

                I'm not conservative.
                I support free market economy. I don't like socialism.

                I'm liberal, a bloody capitalist. Hell, yeah!
                Many conservatives adapted free-market economy. However, being conservative in social beliefs, is another thing if you were referring to that.
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                • TasalTime
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                  • 02-25-15
                  • 9

                  #9
                  Why are these the only 3 choices? Not even good ones at that. Marxism isn't even on the same axis or argument reason as the other two, and Marxism isn't communism nor socialism.

                  I am pretty sure all 3 of them are failures as systems and ways of thought, and all 3 produce losers, so you probably won't find any meaningful connection, OP.
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                  • Big Bear
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 11-01-11
                    • 43253

                    #10
                    what if i say i hate politics and i dont believe my opinion matters on politics so there for i dont have a political opinion???!

                    i honestly i dont give a fukk

                    for all i care they can make USA a communist country.


                    fukk it.

                    i am already broke.
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                    • Big Bear
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 11-01-11
                      • 43253

                      #11
                      and fukk laws too

                      laws are made to be broken
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                      • Sawyer
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                        • 06-01-09
                        • 7761

                        #12
                        Originally posted by SharkAA
                        Many conservatives adapted free-market economy. However, being conservative in social beliefs, is another thing if you were referring to that.
                        Classifications of "left" and "right" are no longer meaningful in the modern complex world. Although these terms continue to be used, I advocate a more complex spectrum that attempts to combine political, economic and social dimensions.

                        I'm not in pure right or pure left side. Mix of both sides. I'm not conservative. I'm anti-conservative in social beliefs but also support capitalist economy. I don't like proletariat dictatorship. I'm a libertarian.



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                        • Sawyer
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                          • 06-01-09
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by N0rB3tz
                          I'm a Marxist for sure, and think capitalism is the root of devil!
                          A bettor cannot be a marxist.
                          Because sports betting is a form of wealth redistrubution.
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                          • Itsamazing777
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 11-14-12
                            • 12602

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Eddy Munny
                            I've aligned myself with the wig party.
                            It's Whig.
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                            • louisvillekid
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                              • 08-14-07
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                              #15
                              Independent!!!!!
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                              • SharkAA
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                                • 11-10-13
                                • 2005

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Sawyer
                                Classifications of "left" and "right" are no longer meaningful in the modern complex world. Although these terms continue to be used, I advocate a more complex spectrum that attempts to combine political, economic and social dimensions.

                                I'm not in pure right or pure left side. Mix of both sides. I'm not conservative. I'm anti-conservative in social beliefs but also support capitalist economy. I don't like proletariat dictatorship. I'm a libertarian.



                                Sadly, many people buy into 'left-right' bullshyt. Fortunately, I don't.
                                As for socialism and capitalism: I don't really like them both, but I'd take capitalism over socialism if I had to.
                                Socialism actually worked decades ago and I'm speaking for Yugoslavia. The unemployment rate was very low back then and life was pretty much ok at that time. However, it doesn't work in the 21st century and I don't like it for a simple fact that the min:max monthly wage ratio is only 1:5 and nationalization of real-estates takes place.
                                I don't like capitalism much, because there is a min:max monthly wage ratio of 1:100 or maybe even 1:200 and because it allows monopolisation.
                                With that being said, I find these 2 options unacceptable for me, because there is absolutely no moderation involved and everything goes into extreme measures.

                                I'm also in the mix of both sides. I support free-market economy, because I believe that government shouldn't run the majority of the companies and therefore, the majority should be privatized. I think that free-trade should be a bit moderated, but under certain conditions. I'm pro-nationalism, but anti ultra-nationalism. As for religion, culture, crime and society, I lean more on left-wing.
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                                • Seaweed
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                                  • 01-19-12
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                                  #17
                                  Yugoslavia did not work

                                  It failed because communism fails
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                                  • SharkAA
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                                    • 11-10-13
                                    • 2005

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Seaweed
                                    Yugoslavia did not work

                                    It failed because communism fails
                                    That is totally false. The real reason, why it fell apart, was inner political crisis within Yugoslavia and consequently, brotherhood and unity started to fall apart. And it did.
                                    Btw, Yugoslavia never adopted communism. Socialism can transit to communism, but in that case, it didn't. There were Communist Parties, but that doesn't mean, communism got adopted.
                                    I don't know, where have you read that shyt, Seaweed, but please stop reading it.
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                                    • Eddy Munny
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                                      • 08-13-13
                                      • 15768

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Itsamazing777
                                      It's Whig.
                                      No thank you. Their foreign relations policies are absurd.

                                      The hairpiece party is where it's at.
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                                      • rkelly110
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                                        • 10-05-09
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                                        #20
                                        Liberal conservative here. Liberal in social programs and live my life conservative.

                                        Privatizing govt run programs will not give you a low cost to the public that govt run programs do.
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                                        • Seaweed
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                                          • 01-19-12
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by SharkAA
                                          That is totally false. The real reason, why it fell apart, was inner political crisis within Yugoslavia and consequently, brotherhood and unity started to fall apart. And it did.
                                          Btw, Yugoslavia never adopted communism. Socialism can transit to communism, but in that case, it didn't. There were Communist Parties, but that doesn't mean, communism got adopted.
                                          I don't know, where have you read that shyt, Seaweed, but please stop reading it.
                                          It was only Socialist by name. The problem was that the right balance was never struck between federalist power at the centre and that of the federalized republics. Authoritarian communist administration was the downfall of Yugoslavia.
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                                          • MoMoneyMoVaughn
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                                            • 05-08-14
                                            • 14988

                                            #22
                                            My theory is that Yugoslavia failed because all Eastern Europeans hate every single person who isn't directly related to them.

                                            I am as centrist as they come. Typical fence sitting Canadian.
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                                            • SharkAA
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 11-10-13
                                              • 2005

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Seaweed
                                              It was only Socialist by name. The problem was that the right balance was never struck between federalist power at the centre and that of the federalized republics. Authoritarian communist administration was the downfall of Yugoslavia.
                                              Again, you're spewing lies. There are differences between communism and socialism and Yugoslavia was a perfect example of socialism. Communism has been spotted in Romania and Soviet Union. There is not one theory that proves that Yugoslavia was communist.
                                              And I told you, why it fell apart. Does the name Slobodan Milošević tell you anything? Nations couldn't live together anymore and that's the reason, why it fell apart. And that was fueled by the inner political crisis.
                                              Please read something that is actually not biased, Seaweed. Every Slovene, Croat, Serb, Macedonian, Bosnian and Montenegran, will tell you pretty much the same.
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                                              • scumbag
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                                                • 11-02-13
                                                • 3504

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Sawyer
                                                This is a betting forum. A bettor cannot be a marxist.

                                                I'm not conservative.
                                                I support free market economy. I don't like socialism.
                                                I'm liberal, a bloody capitalist. Hell, yeah!
                                                if you're a liberal you must be ok with a certain degree of "socialism". i'm a democratic socialist and even i recognize capitalism is the best economic system. but, as marx said, unfettered capitalism is a revolutionary force.

                                                our own country proves that. in the 20's there was big move to lower taxes on the rich and deregulate. it had devastating consequences which nearly brought capitalism down, luckily we had a leader like FDR.

                                                we did it again in the reagan era ramped it up in the clinton/bush era's and again, it nearly ruined the world.

                                                so ya, that's where i stand. and i've probably won more money betting sports the last 4 years than anyone poster on the site.

                                                government and unions are the only checks on the ruling elites, without either, the elites would have us in eternal subjection.
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                                                • Let's Go Rangers
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                                                  • 03-18-12
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                                                  #25
                                                  None of the above


                                                  I am the moderate voice in the polarized political forum
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                                                  • Let's Go Rangers
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                                                    • 03-18-12
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Eddy Munny
                                                    I've aligned myself with the wig party.



                                                    Ohhhh....
                                                    You meant WHIG Party
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                                                    • guitarjosh
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                                                      • 12-25-07
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                                                      #27
                                                      Locofoco.
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                                                      • BigToe
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                                                        • 02-22-15
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Eddy Munny
                                                        I've aligned myself with the wig party.
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                                                        • BigToe
                                                          SBR Hustler
                                                          • 02-22-15
                                                          • 96

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by scumbag
                                                          if you're a liberal you must be ok with a certain degree of "socialism". i'm a democratic socialist and even i recognize capitalism is the best economic system. but, as marx said, unfettered capitalism is a revolutionary force.

                                                          our own country proves that. in the 20's there was big move to lower taxes on the rich and deregulate. it had devastating consequences which nearly brought capitalism down, luckily we had a leader like FDR.

                                                          we did it again in the reagan era ramped it up in the clinton/bush era's and again, it nearly ruined the world.

                                                          so ya, that's where i stand. and i've probably won more money betting sports the last 4 years than anyone poster on the site.

                                                          government and unions are the only checks on the ruling elites, without either, the elites would have us in eternal subjection.
                                                          blah blah blah blah blah blah
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                                                          • SharkAA
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 11-10-13
                                                            • 2005

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by rkelly110
                                                            Liberal conservative here. Liberal in social programs and live my life conservative.

                                                            Privatizing govt run programs will not give you a low cost to the public that govt run programs do.
                                                            Govt run programs/companies have one big issue. Political staffing. I don't know if this is the case for the USA, but it's pretty common in Europe. Other than that, I find it ok, if it's being ran pretty well by the government.
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                                                            • BigToe
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                                                              • 02-22-15
                                                              • 96

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by rkelly110

                                                              Privatizing govt run programs will not give you a low cost to the public that govt run programs do.
                                                              in what country does this apply?
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                                                              • rkelly110
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                                                                • 10-05-09
                                                                • 39691

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by BigToe
                                                                in what country does this apply?
                                                                USA. Our right wing party wants to do away with most govt programs, because there is a huge waste of taxpayer dollars.
                                                                They claim by privatizing them, the govt won't have to fund them saving us tax payers money. A for profit company
                                                                doing the same as a govt run program will be more expensive to the consumer. IMO.
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                                                                • chipper
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                                                                  • 01-07-10
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  I'm socially liberal but fiscally moderate.
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                                                                  • MoMoneyMoVaughn
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                                                                    • 05-08-14
                                                                    • 14988

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Does the wig party bear any relation to the Whig Party?
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                                                                    • Eddy Munny
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                                                                      • 08-13-13
                                                                      • 15768

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by MoMoneyMoVaughn
                                                                      Does the wig party bear any relation to the Whig Party?
                                                                      Not at all, dummy...

                                                                      One is a political party, formed in the 1800's, founded by individuals united in their antagonism to President Andrew Jackson's war on the Second Bank of the United States... and the other is an accessory JJGold tops his dome with.

                                                                      Unreal.
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