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  • cburland10
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 11-26-13
    • 802

    #1
    to those who have recovered from drug addiction?
    how did you do it? fight it cold turkey? Check in to a facility? Is that the only way? Any ideas are good. Would like to hear input from people who have been there
  • TDKJET1717
    SBR Sharp
    • 11-11-14
    • 339

    #2
    my buddy had a kid 10 years ago, he took his last shot of oxy on the birth night...
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    • jjgold
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 07-20-05
      • 388208

      #3
      what is issue Burly??

      Coke??
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      • cburland10
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 11-26-13
        • 802

        #4
        Originally posted by jjgold
        what is issue Burly??

        Coke??
        benzos

        specifically Xanax

        very hard to kick

        dosing 4x the amt I started at
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        • Smoke
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 10-09-09
          • 48111

          #5
          Originally posted by cburland10
          benzos

          specifically Xanax

          very hard to kick

          dosing 4x the amt I started at
          rehab is only way. you will eventually overdose and die if you continue. do the right guy
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          • jjgold
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 07-20-05
            • 388208

            #6
            Burly common man......get into rehab

            I am sure its hard but do it

            I doubt you can quit with reduced dosage each week


            Heck get off that stuff and go to weed if you have to ..at least its safe
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            • gauchojake
              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
              • 09-17-10
              • 34131

              #7
              You should probably detox in a facility bro. Benzos are no joke.
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              • sourtwist
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 11-10-12
                • 9364

                #8
                Gl kid...happy to see no judgment in this thread.

                Youre not alone. I like to dabble from time to time with a few things myself, and im sure im older than you.
                Have a close family member that recovered from heroin also...she did it, anyone can, and I know that xanax isnt even in same ballpark. Friends, and support along with the desire will get you back to being yourself again.
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                • Footballtime
                  SBR MVP
                  • 01-20-10
                  • 3229

                  #9
                  I personally do not have a drug issue, but i will tell you have seen many go down that road and some have made it back and some well they just use, go to jail, use again, go to jail etc... Its a pattern that i can tell you 10 or more guys i know have never seemed to be able to kick. These guys were into coke, crack heroin etc...

                  The guys i know that have made it back to the good life style did it this way... They stayed away from the friends they used with or who were supporters of drug use. 2nd thing they did is not go where they could score the drugs, some moved completely away fromt eh place they called home, some were able to stay right at home but not go to the neighborhood where they "scored" their dope. Once you are able to be clean and have the strength to say "im good" or "No Thanks" only then will you be able to hang in those old neighbopprhood spots or with your old friends that still continue to use...stay well and stay strong, we all have issues be a strong and overcome them. Best of luck buddy, fbt
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                  • seaborneq
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 09-08-06
                    • 22556

                    #10
                    Who is your pusher? Kill him/her and your problem is solved.
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                    • Double Bogey
                      SBR MVP
                      • 07-24-10
                      • 1465

                      #11
                      With xanax, I would definitely check into a rehab. I don't think it's even safe to go cold turkey.

                      But definitely seek help, With that kind of addiction it's either get off them and get a better life, or stay on the road you're currently on and die. I hope the first option is your choice. good luck
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                      • mr. leisure
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 01-29-08
                        • 17507

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Double Bogey
                        With xanax, I would definitely check into a rehab. I don't think it's even safe to go cold turkey.

                        But definitely seek help, With that kind of addiction it's either get off them and get a better life, or stay on the road you're currently on and die. I hope the first option is your choice. good luck

                        Cold turkey withdrawal from benzodiazepines can never be safe if not medically supervised.
                        The possibility ( or should I better say probability) of a seizure with complications is so high that this part is not feasible with DIY methods.

                        Found this on Drugs-Forum , BE CAREFUL
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                        • SteveKerrsJunk
                          SBR MVP
                          • 10-25-13
                          • 2706

                          #13
                          I have a script for xanax right now and it's some messy stuff. Let your ego go, if you feel like you need help then get some help as hard as it may be. You need someone close to talk to about your drug issues that won't condemn you and will be on your side. Fighting any addiction is tough, I suggest therapy and possibly an outpatient program, but every situation is different. Best of luck whatever you choose.
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                          • Vinnie Paz
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 03-27-12
                            • 12177

                            #14
                            You have to taper off gradually. Decrease your dosages week by week. Similar to with cigarettes. Absolutely do not cold turkey. If you're scared or worried or can't afford it or whatever then look up on google different methods to quit and dealing with withdrawal and what not. Myself, family members, close friends and acquaintances have been hooked on all kinds of different drugs and none of us went to a rehab clinic or anything. So it can be done on your own. With those pills it's dangerous because you're physically dependant so if you don't do it correctly it could mean death. So I'm not advising against, you're obviously much better off getting professional help, but it can be done without.

                            If it were me id seek help. These drugs that make you physically dependant upon them are no joke. Good luck pal. Check in and let us know how you're doing
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                            • Dirty Sanchez
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 03-01-10
                              • 16031

                              #15
                              Originally posted by cburland10
                              how did you do it? fight it cold turkey? Check in to a facility? Is that the only way? Any ideas are good. Would like to hear input from people who have been there
                              I dealt with a ton of folks and drug issues in the military...there is no other way than getting help for your problem because of the grip it has on you. The other danger is the obvious health aspect of what you're doing to the organs in your body that have to process the bad stuff your throwing into your system....that's another important reason to be in a treatment facility because they can help with all aspects of your recovery from the psychological to the medical and educational as well
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                              • cburland10
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 11-26-13
                                • 802

                                #16
                                wow bunch of great guys on here

                                thanks everyone

                                Might be a dumb question, but if I am to seek professional help, there is no way I'd face legal trouble correct? Since the dosages I'm taking are so high, I have a few different people I hit up for scripts. If I am to go somewhere the last thing I want to be asked is where I get them from.
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                                • SteveKerrsJunk
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 10-25-13
                                  • 2706

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Dirty Sanchez
                                  I dealt with a ton of folks and drug issues in the military...there is no other way than getting help for your problem because of the grip it has on you. The other danger is the obvious health aspect of what you're doing to the organs in your body that have to process the bad stuff your throwing into your system....that's another important reason to be in a treatment facility because they can help with all aspects of your recovery from the psychological to the medical and educational as well
                                  I never agree with the Sanchez but he is spot on. Addictions completely destroy you from the inside out. Get help, you can live a great life without giving in to your body's compulsive cravings.
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                                  • Vinnie Paz
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 03-27-12
                                    • 12177

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by cburland10
                                    wow bunch of great guys on here

                                    thanks everyone

                                    Might be a dumb question, but if I am to seek professional help, there is no way I'd face legal trouble correct? Since the dosages I'm taking are so high, I have a few different people I hit up for scripts. If I am to go somewhere the last thing I want to be asked is where I get them from.
                                    I'm 90% sure they don't question where you get it from, or any details like that. They just want to help you get straight, not get all paranoid and worried about cops and shit. They'll obviously ask how much you regularly take but they aren't gonna ask where. I'm pretty sure everything is sworn to remain confidential too
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                                    • Dirty Sanchez
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 03-01-10
                                      • 16031

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by SteveKerrsJunk
                                      I never agree with the Sanchez but he is spot on. Addictions completely destroy you from the inside out. Get help, you can live a great life without giving in to your body's compulsive cravings.
                                      Gee thanks for the ringing endorsement Cbur that's a legal question so it's out of my area of expertise...but from the people that I know that have entered rehab that stuff was never discussed from what I understand
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                                      • edawg
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 07-09-11
                                        • 2866

                                        #20
                                        Was addicted to xanax very tough withdrawal. You Do NOT want to cold turkey I did and had mini seizures and had over a 200 heartrate laying in bed.
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                                        • The Kraken
                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                          • 12-25-11
                                          • 29085

                                          #21
                                          I hate the idea of rehab. They're typically expensive and ineffective. You can get the same thing with a family support system and an addiction counselor or specialist. Start looking for ones in your area.

                                          But the guys are right, cold turkey from benzos is not the way to go. There is the potential for seizures but honestly they're rare.

                                          You have options here so don't act hastily. This will be a life time battle, nothing will be won or lost tomorrow.

                                          I'll post a few things for you in a minute.

                                          I've been through it and it sucks. I absolutely despise benzos now. I wouldn't give a damn if they went the way of qualudes.
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                                          • The Kraken
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                                            • 12-25-11
                                            • 29085

                                            #22
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                                            • The Kraken
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                                              • 12-25-11
                                              • 29085

                                              #23

                                              generally regarded as the bible for safely and effectively withdrawing from benzos, called the Ashton manual.

                                              If you're serious about this, you will need to likely involve an MD at some point to get a script for either Klonopin or Valium. I'm aware they're benzos but they act differently and have a place in weaning off of Xanax.

                                              Start gathering info and then go slowly. Remember, relapses are a part of recovery, a relapse does not mean you failed and you start over from scratch or have a freebie, it just means one step back.

                                              Let me know if you need anything else, I may know a guy that's traveled down yhe road you're about to embark on.

                                              also, if you don't mind sharing, how many milligrams per day are you taking? You said 4x's per day, what is each dose? And do you tend to run out of your meds early each month?
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                                              • The Kraken
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                                                • 12-25-11
                                                • 29085

                                                #24
                                                Lastly, if you choose to go through with it, I'll PM you one last link
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                                                • edawg
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 07-09-11
                                                  • 2866

                                                  #25
                                                  Kraken is on point. There are many factors such as how long you have been on them and what dosage. If you took them every day or would abuse them in high doses a couple times a week? Benzos depress the CNS and gaba receptors and the short half life of xanax makes it troublesome. There used to be a forum called Benzo Buddies that had some excellent information.
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                                                  • recon1
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 08-13-12
                                                    • 2579

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by cburland10
                                                    how did you do it? fight it cold turkey? Check in to a facility? Is that the only way? Any ideas are good. Would like to hear input from people who have been there
                                                    If i were going to take any drug usage advice here it would be from kraken. Man was or may still be a human garbage disposal of illegal narcotics. I've never consumed drugs, but was in a unique position to help those who did. If you live in a large metro area go up to a cop make sure you don't have any dope on you or high at the time. Tell them you're addiction and that you need help. LEO's are on front lines of knowing which programs work and which ones are a waste. You'll find low cost free type rehab programs run by ex-junkies work best. I personally saw a local church in Florida who helped the most with a high success rate. Worst run programs were the expensive ones from what i witnessed. Good-luck
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                                                    • The Kraken
                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                      • 12-25-11
                                                      • 29085

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by edawg
                                                      Kraken is on point. There are many factors such as how long you have been on them and what dosage. If you took them every day or would abuse them in high doses a couple times a week? Benzos depress the CNS and gaba receptors and the short half life of xanax makes it troublesome. There used to be a forum called Benzo Buddies that had some excellent information.
                                                      Good points, e. Other than heroin, Xanax is considered one of the toughest drugs to wean off of for a multitude of reasons, some you touched on.

                                                      I certainly don't envy the man weaning off Xanax but even more I pity the guy that stays on them.
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                                                      • The Kraken
                                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                        • 12-25-11
                                                        • 29085

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by recon1
                                                        If i were going to take any drug usage advice here it would be from kraken. Man was or may still be a human garbage disposal of illegal narcotics. I've never consumed drugs, but was in a unique position to help those who did. If you live in a large metro area go up to a cop make sure you don't have any dope on you or high at the time. Tell them you're addiction and that you need help. LEO's are on front lines of knowing which programs work and which ones are a waste. You'll find low cost free type rehab programs run by ex-junkies work best. I personally saw a local church in Florida who helped the most with a high success rate. Worst run programs were the expensive ones from what i witnessed. Good-luck
                                                        Fukk you, you pos. Only advice I'd have for you is to take the whole bottle and eat a bullet
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                                                        • brainfreeze
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 05-13-14
                                                          • 5565

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by recon1
                                                          If i were going to take any drug usage advice here it would be from kraken. Man was or may still be a human garbage disposal of illegal narcotics. I've never consumed drugs, but was in a unique position to help those who did. If you live in a large metro area go up to a cop make sure you don't have any dope on you or high at the time. Tell them you're addiction and that you need help. LEO's are on front lines of knowing which programs work and which ones are a waste. You'll find low cost free type rehab programs run by ex-junkies work best. I personally saw a local church in Florida who helped the most with a high success rate. Worst run programs were the expensive ones from what i witnessed. Good-luck
                                                          Good post, ... If you really want off that crap for good, and your sick and tired of being sick and tired... Let God help you, pray to Jesus and give Him your problems. It might not happen over night like it did for me, but for sure God works. I agree with what recons saying here as well, hope you well.
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                                                          • brainfreeze
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                                                            • 05-13-14
                                                            • 5565

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by The Kraken
                                                            Fukk you, you pos. Only advice I'd have for you is to take the whole bottle and eat a bullet
                                                            What is your problem ? He says your right.... and you have good advice here, I don't agree with him calling you still a drug user or whatever, but com'on kraken, you don't need to say all of that.
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                                                            • recon1
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 08-13-12
                                                              • 2579

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by brainfreeze
                                                              What is your problem ? He says your right.... and you have good advice here, I don't agree with him calling you still a drug user or whatever, but com'on kraken, you don't need to say all of that.
                                                              Yeah, he sure did take it wrong. I think what I said he's pretty much admitted to such in his own words. Guy has serious experience in this area and can help others if he really wanted to.
                                                              I don't think Mrs. Shari would appreciate him saying all those things to me. I hope he erases before she does her patrol rounds.
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                                                              • mpaschal34
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 02-04-13
                                                                • 12087

                                                                #32
                                                                Guess I should feel good that I never even heard of benzos until coming into this thread. I enjoy a good beer or bottle of wine, but never had any interest in any recreational drugs.
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                                                                • Ghenghis Kahn
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 01-02-12
                                                                  • 19736

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by mpaschal34
                                                                  Guess I should feel good that I never even heard of benzos until coming into this thread. I enjoy a good beer or bottle of wine, but never had any interest in any recreational drugs.
                                                                  have you been living under a rock or something? benzos are probably the most prescribe drugs in the us.

                                                                  to op, do some research on quitting and don't ever do it cold turkey, i've heard withdrawal from it can literally drive you insane.

                                                                  and don't listen to the religious nuts, they are clueless...
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                                                                  • Swaggy P
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 01-28-14
                                                                    • 1091

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by cburland10
                                                                    how did you do it? fight it cold turkey? Check in to a facility? Is that the only way? Any ideas are good. Would like to hear input from people who have been there
                                                                    I would strongly advise seeking some professional help. Cutting cold turkey is a rare feat that only a few are capable of doing as most addicts have zero self control and will power. Also besides getting professional treatment, if you have any religious affiliation you can try to find a like minded group of people that you can meet up with from time to time to talk about things. That can prove to be be beneficial when you find yourself in the recovery process.

                                                                    Good luck man.
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                                                                    • sourtwist
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 11-10-12
                                                                      • 9364

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by mpaschal34
                                                                      Guess I should feel good that I never even heard of benzos until coming into this thread. I enjoy a good beer or bottle of wine, but never had any interest in any recreational drugs.
                                                                      Helpful post.
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