GOD

[Fidel_CashFlow]

of course BiteMe will discredit this video as proof God exists ... since its on youtube as well

[TheAntFather]

I love all these screw ups that are scumbags their whole life, go to jail and then find Jesus. Funny how Jesus wasn't a part of your life before. You are a dime a dozen. A total failure in life who goes from one extreme to another. From screw up to relying on some nonsense to be a good person. Couldn't figure that one out on your own?? You think the fact you are not a dirtbag anymore proves their is a God???? That is hilarious. Maybe you got tired of jail. There are only a million logical answers for your transformation. They are all rooted in human behavior.
Wow. You sound like you were a real tough guy. I had to knock out some punks like you when I was younger. I was and still am a trained fighter. You guys go down real easy when you meet up people who knows how to hurt people but only do so as a last resort. Thanks for proving how ridiculous GOD stories can be.

Exactly. I train brazilian jiu jitsu and muay thai in Houston. I run into these punk christian boys who try an bully and judge other people at my job into believing in their bullshit. They try and act like they're better than everyone else and make fun of people and make them feel weird about not believing in their god. It's getting to the point of bullying. It's sickening how arrogant they are about their beliefs with no proof and they try and shove it down peoples throats everyday. They don't try their Jesus BS on me, they know what I'm about already and know I will break their jaws.

[BiTeMe UsAdOj]

of course BiteMe will discredit this video as proof God exists ... since its on youtube as well

Joan not performing this song au naturel in her Birthday Suit (as her God made her/intended) obviously suggests a lack of trust in Him/Her and clearly reveals a lack of conviction in her faith.

Consequently: DISCREDITED & DISMISSED

Now, if we can only get Annie & Shari to perform this song together naked as jaybirds @ the upcoming BASH... well, then the cacophonous chorus of "OH MY GOD!!!" by the likes of Iwin, Mug, Reload and both Reload and Chico's moms would probably go a long way to proving God's existence, I should think.

[Bostongambler]

Oh do tell

[maggiethebestdog]

No proof that God doesn't exist??? There is a mountain of scientific evidence that God does not exist. Please don't comment on facts when you obviously don't know what that word means.

[brainfreeze]

vetted = scholarly studies or treatises by experts in specific academic field(s), citing irrefutable historical artifacts/documents to illuminate the veracity of said study or treatise


... and not just some guy with a YouTube account with an agenda to tilt things however one wants to tilt them to advance their own particular agenda.

That's the point bite, it will be tilted when we are talking about a subject as this one. Either we will believe ape ancestors ( and this tilted line of " factual " evidence ) and the big bang type of " factual evidence " or we will believe the Bible and God created man and earth ... Regardless, we have to take a step on belief either way, there is no way to prove either.

[BiTeMe UsAdOj]

That's the point bite, it will be tilted when we are talking about a subject as this one.

Oh boy...

Either we will believe ape ancestors ( and this tilted line of " factual " evidence )

Oh boy...

and the big bang type of " factual evidence "

Oh boy...

or we will believe the Bible and God created man and earth ...

Oh boy...

Regardless, we have to take a step on belief either way, there is no way to prove either.

(<----- look, a Trinity!)

Freezer, there is so much wrong in what you wrote above it's comical, TBH. Not trying to be disrespectful, cuz I like you, but your "we have to take a step on belief either way" is genuinely sidesplitting.

Hmm, let's see: Instead of blind belief, how about we properly understand what the real scientific evidence reveals to us and let the scientific facts lead us to what we should appropriately believe, intellectually; you know, that same silly scientific stuff that allows us to talk over the internet, view far off objects in space, cure/ameliorate diseases and on & on & on.

The mistake peeps like you always make is: just because science (at this moment in time) can't dot every "i" and cross every "t"... you guys always want to throw the baby out with the bathwater. IRREFUTABLE FACTS ARE: There exists *mountains* of scientific evidence to support evolution and the Big Bang (or something similar); just because every nuance, at this moment, can't be explained soup to nuts, doesn't mean the mountains of scientific evidence already gathered is incorrect. These are outrageously complicated concepts science is endeavoring to figure out; to dismiss what is already concretely scientifically known is just intellectually silly.

For the record: I don't subscribe to the belief (as many atheists do, for example) that you die... that's it... void and nothingness blah blah. That to me is as intellectually lazy as most religious people are; how can they possibly come to that absolute conclusion? They're as lost as the religious folks that think they've got it all figured out.

Like Vonnegut, I consider myself a FREE THINKER (not an atheist). All Religions, for the most part, are exercises in mental masturbation for the (mostly, not all) weak-minded. Weak-minded people need someone/something to provide them order & structure for the complicated world we live in; while conceding religion has done some good, the amount of bad things that religion has foisted on the world throughout human history is abominable and dwarfs any good religion has provided.

I'm a science guy: The Bible and other religious texts are mostly myths and fables (as Joseph Campbell reminded us, myths are important constructs for humans throughout history). Myths and fables serve a purpose to humans, but they aren't THE TRUTH OF EXISTENCE. And, as a science guy... there is ample scientific evidence to suggest there is way more going on in our World than what we as humans can detect via our senses (quantum ideas of particles existing in more than 1 place at the same time, energy never being extinguished but rather changing to something else and on & on & on).

But, the religious concept(s) of a benevolent "Man Upstairs" keeping tally like an ethereal Santa Claus on who's been naughty or nice to enter the Pearly Gates or be cast into eternal damnation is, well, intellectually immature. Plus, he apparently cares a lot about which teams win sporting events! (and we won't even get into all the inconsistencies/hypocrisies of religion already superbly put forth by maggie, BigBofA and others etc. in this thread).

Oh, and Freezer... please... don't regurgitate the same YT vids when you were going back and forth with Trip D moons ago in this thread and others (last time I paid any attention to it prior to now, tbh). Straight up: Trip D always intellectually kicked your hiney six ways to Sunday in those exchanges; But, you will never open up YOUR mind to possibly explore YOU may be wrong and will forever hold tight to your religious dogma, so....

[maggiethebestdog]

That's the point bite, it will be tilted when we are talking about a subject as this one. Either we will believe ape ancestors ( and this tilted line of " factual " evidence ) and the big bang type of " factual evidence " or we will believe the Bible and God created man and earth ... Regardless, we have to take a step on belief either way, there is no way to prove either.

OH MY GOD!!!! REALLY??? Evolution is not a theory. It is 100% scientific fact. Same thing with the Big Bang. They prove how the universe and humans were created. The only reason you don't know that is that it contradicts your delusional fairytales. It is hard to believe that anybody could be that ignorant of facts.

[brainfreeze]

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Freezer, there is so much wrong in what you wrote above it's comical, TBH. Not trying to be disrespectful, cuz I like you, but your "we have to take a step on belief either way" is genuinely sidesplitting.

i don't see it that way, I see those debates ( like a nye vs ham ) will be subject to the perspective of the viewer. There's evidence for both cases, both ways, historical evidence ..and to start I don't feel like going back over what I already have.. Your opinion is bias to what you believe is factual evidence, no Christian has a problem with science, we like science, ( the guy that made the MRI machine is Christian ) we don't like the stuff that gets passed off as science that is just much of a dogma that you are claiming the opposite of.

. Hmm, let's see: Instead of blind belief, how about we properly understand what the real scientific evidence reveals to us and let the scientific facts lead us to what we should appropriately believe, intellectually; you know, that same silly scientific stuff that allows us to talk over the internet, view far off objects in space, cure/ameliorate diseases and on & on & on.

well in this case it's history ... Now, do you believe " historical " Jesus existed, yay or nay? The rest I would assert my above response to the last paragraph.

.The mistake peeps like you always make is: just because science (at this moment in time) can't dot every "i" and cross every "t"... you guys always want to throw the baby out with the bathwater. IRREFUTABLE FACTS ARE: There exists *mountains* of scientific evidence to support evolution and the Big Bang (or something similar); just because every nuance, at this moment, can't be explained soup to nuts, doesn't mean the mountains of scientific evidence already gathered is incorrect. These are outrageously complicated concepts science is endeavoring to figure out; to dismiss what is already concretely scientifically known is just intellectually silly.

science will never disprove God... Never has, never will, you have better hope of artificial intelligence doing it lol...but there is nothing concrete that disproves God, you know this bite.. The /\ /\mountains /\/\ you speak of were created during different points in times pass, the actual formation is a creation from God. There are holes all through the facts of evolution, they even passed off lies for a while, I'm sure you know this...just to keep (the bigger lie) in progress..

. For the record: I don't subscribe to the belief (as many atheists do, for example) that you die... that's it... void and nothingness blah blah. That to me is as intellectually lazy as most religious people are; how can they possibly come to that absolute conclusion? They're as lost as the religious folks that think they've got it all figured out.

Ok.. Then where do you think you're going after this life in the flesh bite? Interesting you aren't following complete pursuit to their damned doctrine of (fake science) .. What do you think happens next? I hope you don't think it all explodes itself in a thousand pieces and finds itself again, like kabbalah teaches.

. Like Vonnegut, I consider myself a FREE THINKER (not an atheist). All Religions, for the most part, are exercises in mental masturbation for the (mostly, not all) weak-minded. Weak-minded people need someone/something to provide them order & structure for the complicated world we live in; while conceding religion has done some good, the amount of bad things that religion has foisted on the world throughout human history is abominable and dwarfs any good religion has provided.

i was never weak minded bite, and I don't follow behind tradition or family blindly.. I lead, I set the line that God allows me to, and I do need Christ Jesus, I wouldn't want to live the way I did, lost, dumb, and blind.. Thinking I was cool, and having fun, its a false sense of reality. It's not what life's for or about, but yes structure ... Order, morals come from God...

I ask you, where do morals come from?

if you were honest, you would have to say Gods laws, His commandments.. There has to be a line, where does this line arise of morality and what it is to be act with morals, goodness, holiness..

As for other religions, talk to them bite, don't put us all in one box, show me where I've called for violence on others because of what they believe. I do believe in defending our country from extreme radical islam terrorist, but I don't call for anyone's blood because of what they believe, I hope they stop harming people for what they believe, innocent people. They do have some that say they come in the name of Christ and do harm to others, but those who know better know that's not from Christ, God is love, I love the Arab, I hate the religion, and how it has oppressed their women and brought the worse kinds of torture for the smallest crimes, a hungry man steals a apple.. Off with his hand! Type of stuff, they toss gays off the roofs, and chop off heads, this is crazy bite.. I agree, but this is their law, this is shia law. Now go look at Gods commands in the Bible, show me where God calls for anyone's death ( except for someone that would hurt little ones )

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I'm a science guy: The Bible and other religious texts are mostly myths and fables (as Joseph Campbell reminded us, myths are important constructs for humans throughout history). Myths and fables serve a purpose to humans, but they aren't THE TRUTH OF EXISTENCE. And, as a science guy... there is ample scientific evidence to suggest there is way more going on in our World than what we as humans can detect via our senses (quantum ideas of particles existing in more than 1 place at the same time, energy never being extinguished but rather changing to something else and on & on & on).

This is your opinion bite, you say it's fables, I say they are Gods stories and it's not all God knows but what He has left to man to have an understanding of Him. Your right there is more going on that meets the eye, this only helps my case that God is all powerful and has created the most minuet things that help in our Eco-systems that we don't even know about, we are still finding new species of animals all the time, then to think about the bacteria and different forms that work the way they do together, it's amazing, God doesn't need us, we need Him.. We can't even study at the depths of His oceans yet.. You say you believe in something that goes on beyond this physical life that you can't prove yet you are confident to call something a fable, interesting.

. But, the religious concept(s) of a benevolent "Man Upstairs" keeping tally like an ethereal Santa Claus on who's been naughty or nice to enter the Pearly Gates or be cast into eternal damnation is, well, intellectually immature. Plus, he apparently cares a lot about which teams win sporting events! (and we won't even get into all the inconsistencies/hypocrisies of religion already superbly put forth by maggie, BigBofA and others etc. in this thread).

I don't believe it's like that, I think once we are covered in Christ, He sees us as perfect. There is consequences in this life for screw ups though, we cheat on the wife, we get caught, we wil probably be some lonely bastards on child support. I don't think God won't forgive you, and let God help through situations but being saved isn't a fix all type of deal, we still have to live in the flesh, and go through the same problems everyone else does, only differnce is we have learned and are learning self control, and have a Helper with angels that lead and guide our paths. Only one hanging on to a sinful past is lucifer our accuser, I do believe there is a high court after this life, and we are either sealed in the book of life and saved washed in the blood of Jesus, or we are not, and the accuser wins the case for these individuals.

. Oh, and Freezer... please... don't regurgitate the same YT vids when you were going back and forth with Trip D moons ago in this thread and others (last time I paid any attention to it prior to now, tbh). Straight up: Trip D always intellectually kicked your hiney six ways to Sunday in those exchanges; But, you will never open up YOUR mind to possibly explore YOU may be wrong and will forever hold tight to your religious dogma, so....

i don't think I regurgitated but did state some of the same facts I presented then. I love you guys, your funny sometime bite, trip used to help me with point loans all the time with hardly any interest, even being on the other side of this ...( Whatever you want to call it) debate... Y'all are both extremely well at poker to, I'm glad that we can discuss some of this being kind to one another, without having to belittle the other or throw jabs as most do in these occasions. I respect you guys, and look into some of what you present to see where it stands in the argument, my mind, and my heart... I would hope you can do the same. Peace

[Papa_jonjon]

Brainfreeze.....these blind sheep are thinking about the here and now...with no concept of eternal life or with whom they with be spending it with. You've told them repeatedly its a personal conscience choice to have faith....they have faith in science and monkeys and whatever the next thing is. Your a great messger and soldier for trying to help lost people.......and I bet if any of them have a change of heart or at least soften heart.......you would be the first one to help and guide them.....they need people like you.....they are just blind. The same hearts is how Jesus ended up on the cross,the people didn't even believe him ! God bless you man.....Jesus is smiling 😊

[brainfreeze]

OH MY GOD!!!! REALLY??? Evolution is not a theory. It is 100% scientific fact. Same thing with the Big Bang. They prove how the universe and humans were created. The only reason you don't know that is that it contradicts your delusional fairytales. It is hard to believe that anybody could be that ignorant of facts.

You must not keep up with your own beliefs ...

"So when we say that the universe begins with a big bang, we really have no right to say that," Brandenberger told Live Science.

http://www.livescience.com/49958-theory-no-big-bang.html

[brainfreeze]

Brainfreeze.....these blind sheep are thinking about the here and now...with no concept of eternal life or with whom they with be spending it with. You've told them repeatedly its a personal conscience choice to have faith....they have faith in science and monkeys and whatever the next thing is. Your a great messger and soldier for trying to help lost people.......and I bet if any of them have a change of heart or at least soften heart.......you would be the first one to help and guide them.....they need people like you.....they are just blind. The same hearts is how Jesus ended up on the cross,the people didn't even believe him ! God bless you man.....Jesus is smiling 

Thank you brother, really appreciate the kind words..and your right, but we were once these doubtful blind sheep, I can't help but want to help them, and want to see them come to Jesus, that the Angels rejoice and more lost sheep be found in Him.

Have a blessed day

[maggiethebestdog]

Thank you brother, really appreciate the kind words..and your right, but we were once these doubtful blind sheep, I can't help but want to help them, and want to see them come to Jesus, that the Angels rejoice and more lost sheep be found in Him.

Have a blessed day

I will say it is noble to want to help people even if it is ignorant and condescending to do so. Trust me, I am far from lost. Your buddy is right. I don't think about eternal life because it does not exist, just like Jesus. Keep arguing with scientific fact.

[BigDofBA]

It doesn't seem fair or logical that out of the 4,200 religions, none of them are correct. But it's sure arrogant to think that.

My point went way over your head. Even if I play along with your theory of God, that means one out 4000+ religions is correct. So that means 99.9 percent of religion is wrong. You can't even disagree with that.

Good job on trying to take cheap shots at me on the typos. I posted that on my cell phone. I'm surprised there were only two typos considering....at any rate, I have two college degrees but I'm not here to try to prove my intelligence to anyone as it's a waste of my time and I don't really care.

You haven't really answered any of my questions. There are roughly 4200 religions. What makes your religion any better than any other religion? What makes yours the "right one"? To me, that is arrogance.

You keep saying that there are scientists that believe in God. I've already cited sources that over 90% of both physicists and biologist do not believe in god. I'm sure there are a few people that do believe in God but they are not the majority. My source is the National Academy of Science.

The irony of this entire conversation is that you epitomize everything I've been talking about. You show anger, lose control, and result to name calling and insults when you get agitated by simple questions. Then you claim to be a man of God....that is hypocrisy at it's finest.

What's even funnier is that you're on an internet message board about online and illegal sportsbetting, and you're trying to act like a man of God. Again, another instance of a religious person acting holier than thou but not really acting out in a way that is supposed to be indicative of their beliefs.

I spoke of people being born into religion and asked about Children in the Middle East. You basically said if you're a baby born into ISIS you're going to Hell. That sounds really fair.....I think I made my point there.

You keep citing a few Scientists that believe in God. I site the National Academy of Science that states over 90% of Physicists, Biologists, and Astronomers don't believe in God. I think I made my point there as well.

The other questions you can't answer, specifically in regards to my comment that man wrote the Bible when man wasn't very smart, you basically result to insults and name calling.

I don't think there is much more for me to say. The more you type, the worse you look. I can respect Brainfreeze because at least he was able to articulate well thought out thoughts and he was respectful. Maybe you should try to learn from him. He seems to be a better example of what you are trying to represent.

[maggiethebestdog]

I believe we are getting trolled. Most religious people could do way better than they are. Nobody could seriously argue like this.

[TheAntFather]

[bobbywaves]

Even if I play along with your theory of God, that means one out 4000+ religions is correct. So that means 99.9 percent of religion is wrong. You can't even disagree with that.

Even if I play along with your theory of Atheism, that means out of 4,000+ religions none are correct? As I just demonstrated, you can't have it both ways. So your point was ignorant.

I have two college degrees but I'm not here to try to prove my intelligence to anyone as it's a waste of my time and I don't really care.

If you really don't care & not here trying to prove your intelligence, then there would be no need to state your educational credentials hypocrite.

You haven't really answered any of my questions. There are roughly 4200 religions. What makes your religion any better than any other religion? What makes yours the "right one"? To me, that is arrogance.

Coming from a guy who didn't address my questions asked several times: You stated your family is religious, what did they have to say about your religious concerns & Atheism belief? You don't have to listen to myself & BF, listen to them.

Not sure why I even bother to address your regurgitated nonsense. You're obviously set in your ways & not interested in learning:

Why should anyone trust in Christianity over Islam, Buddhism, Mormonism, or anything else? It is because there are absolute truths. Only in Christianity are there accurately fulfilled prophecies of a coming Messiah. Only in Christianity do we have the extremely accurate transmission of the eyewitness documents (gospels), so we can trust what was originally written. Only in Christianity do we have the person of Christ who claimed to be God, performed many miracles to prove His claim of divinity, who died and rose from the dead, & who said that He alone was the Way, the Truth, & the Life (John 14:6).

All this adds to the legitimacy & credibility of Christianity above all other religions--all based on the person of Jesus. It could not be that Jesus is the only Truth, & other religions also be the truth. Either Jesus is true & all other religions are false, or other religions are true & Jesus is false. There are no other options. I opt to follow the risen Lord Jesus. You choose Atheism, when it's not a viable option to intellectuals.

You keep saying that there are scientists that believe in God. I've already cited sources that over 90% of both physicists and biologist do not believe in god. I'm sure there are a few people that do believe in God but they are not the majority. My source is the National Academy of Science.

First, the National Academy of Sciences represents a small number of scientists. The Academy itself comprises only about 2,000 members, while there are more than 2 million scientists employed in the United States as a whole. This fact means that the NAS only represents about one-tenth of 1% of all scientists in the nation. Using this statistic alone to prove scientists are overwhelmingly atheists would be obviously inaccurate.


A more accurate description comes from the Pew Research Center, which reported in 2009 that 51% of scientists believe that God or some higher power exists, while 41% of scientists reject both of those concepts. In addition, while only 2% of the general population identifies as atheist, 17% of scientists identify themselves with that term.


Now we have to consider another important set of factors: Is it science that turns people into atheists? Or is it atheism that turns people into scientists?


Elaine Ecklund’s book Science vs. Religion: What Scientists Really Think shows that scientists are more religious than we realize. In the course of her interviews she found that many scientists reject religion for personal reasons prior to becoming scientists (as opposed to rejecting religion solely on scientific grounds).


It's unfortunate that secular people feel more compelled to study the natural sciences than religious people, because some of our greatest scientific discoveries have come from people of faith (Gregor Mendel and Fr. Georges Lemaitre).

The irony of this entire conversation is that you epitomize everything I've been talking about. You show anger, lose control, and result to name calling and insults when you get agitated by simple questions. Then you claim to be a man of God....that is hypocrisy at it's finest.

I just call it as it is, I'm a straight shooter. I know the truth hurts you, I get it.

Hypocrisy at it's finest is stating you really don't care proving your intelligence to anyone, while stating you have 2 college degrees.

What's even funnier is that you're on an internet message board about online and illegal sportsbetting,

Your ignorance is amazing. It's not illegal to place an online bet offshore. If it was, I would have been in jail 10 years ago. I strongly suggest you report me to the proper authoritites & have me locked up, good luck with that.

What's funny is your presence on a sportsbetting review website, when you don't "illegaly" bet or play poker. You're just another broke dick troll, who can't afford a c-note to support this very site he trolls.

I spoke of people being born into religion and asked about Children in the Middle East. You basically said if you're a baby born into ISIS you're going to Hell. That sounds really fair.....I think I made my point there.

You didn't make any point. If an ISIS child is old enough to know right from wrong, yet follows the brainwashing of parents to suicde bomb & cut off human heads killing innocent victims, then there's a special warm place awaiting them. Satan doesn't discriminate against age.

There have been multiple reports of kids in Hell, by people who saw Hell via near death experiences.

You keep citing a few Scientists that believe in God. I site the National Academy of Science that states over 90% of Physicists, Biologists, and Astronomers don't believe in God. I think I made my point there as well.

You keep citing "National Academy of Science," which I already debunked above.

The other questions you can't answer, specifically in regards to my comment that man wrote the Bible when man wasn't very smart

What you just showed is the likelyhood that the scriptures were inspired by God. If the common intelligence level was not high enough to come up with such an elaborate story from several different times in history, then it stands to reason it was inspired by a higher intelligence. Have you tried reading the Holy Bible to give yourself an idea of the divine truth within? God gave the writers the words to write down! God is the source of all truth.

If the Bible was written by lower intelligent people, then why do the Atheists have such a hard time understanding it?

I don't think there is much more for me to say.

Thank God......no pun intended.

There can't be much more for you to say, you've been constantly repeating yourself ad nauseum as it is.

I can respect Brainfreeze because at least he was able to articulate well thought out thoughts and he was respectful. Maybe you should try to learn from him. He seems to be a better example of what you are trying to represent.

I can't learn from Brainfreeze, as I already agree with many things he says. I don't care if you learn from BF instead of myself. Just do yourself a solid & educate yourself, before it's too late.

[BigDofBA]

You're obviously bothered and uncomfortable by my simple questions which is why you have long winded responses that lack any substance in regards to my questions.

So you agree there are over 4,000 religions yet you're positive your religion is the only right one? This is why I said you were arrogant and also proves my point that most religions are wrong. Even if you could prove your beliefs were the only correct beliefs in the world, this would render all of the other religions wrong.

You believe God exists so it shouldn't be hard to provide some evidence. It's hard for me to prove something does'nt exist. How would you prove to me that the Tooth Fairy doesn't exist?

You should also research Atheism. I have no evidence God exists, therefore I don't believe. Provide me with me real proof, and I could change my mind. To me this is a logical way of thinking.

I wouldn't expect you to believe in the Tooth Fairy because someone told you a personal testimony. I wouldn't tell you to have faith in the Tooth Fairy. Hopefully you would use the knowledge you have about he world and reach a logical conclusion that the Tooth Fairy is not real.

I'm not trying to change your beliefs. I'm trying to make you understand other people's beliefs.

[maggiethebestdog]

People in cults can not be reasoned with. All cult members have to be deprogrammed if they ever want to live a normal life. Only the willing can ever live and think free.

[bobbywaves]

You're obviously bothered and uncomfortable by my simple questions which is why you have long winded responses that lack any substance in regards to my questions.

Unlike you, I address your comments & questions. My responses contain a plethora of substance, which you choose to ignore.

So you agree there are over 4,000 religions yet you're positive your is the only right one? This is why I say you are arrogant and also proves my point that most religions are wrong. Even if you could prove your beliefs were the oil correct believes in the world, this would render all of the other religions wrong & atheist wrong.

Fixed that last sentence for you. Apparently you didn't read my last post, as I already addressed why I believe my faith is correct. As previously stated...if my faith is wrong I'm no worse off than you, since you believe in nothing. But if my faith is correct, sorry for your lost soul.

Out of 4,000+ religions, you're arrogant to think Atheism is correct. But we can continue going around in circles with this.

What does "oil" has to do with this? You may want to proofread or edit your posts to correct all the mistakes, so you can be easily understood & appear less ignorant.

You believe God exists so it shouldn't be had to provide some evidence.

I already provided evidence of Gods existence, apparently you can't comprehend my posts. But here it is again for you: http://www.everystudent.com/features/isthere.html

It's hard for me to prove something doesnt exist.

I've noticed. Yet without proof you still claim God doesn't exist, by making some ignorant comparison to the tooth fairy.

Provide me with me real proof, and I could change my mind.

I have provided proof multiple times in this thread, click on the link above.

I wouldn't expect you believe in the Tooth Fairy because someone told you a personal testimony. I wouldn't tell you to have faith in the Tooth Fairy. Hopefully you would use the knowledge you have about he world and reach a logical conclusion that the Tooth Fairy was not real.

Sorry for your kids when they lose a tooth. They're not getting a buck under their pillow, when you can't afford pro status to support this site.

[maggiethebestdog]

Come on Bobby, just admit you are jerking our chain. You can't possibly believe anything you have written. No sane person could.

[bobbywaves]

Come on Bobby, just admit you are jerking our chain. You can't possibly believe anything you have written. No sane person could.

I'm serious as a widowmaker heart attack, which I had last year.

I firmly believe God answered the many prayers by sparing me, as survival rate is not very good.

[BigDofBA]

Unlike you, I address your comments & questions. My responses contain a plethora of substance, which you choose to ignore.



Fixed that last sentence for you. Apparently you didn't read my last post, as I already addressed why I believe my faith is correct. As previously stated...if my faith is wrong I'm no worse off than you, since you believe in nothing. But if my faith is correct, sorry for your lost soul.

Out of 4,000+ religions, you're arrogant to think Atheism is correct. But we can continue going around in circles with this.

What does "oil" has to do with this? You may want to proofread or edit your posts to correct all the mistakes, so you can be easily understood & appear less ignorant.



I already provided evidence of Gods existence, apparently you can't comprehend my posts. But here it is again for you: http://www.everystudent.com/features/isthere.html



I've noticed. Yet without proof you still claim God doesn't exist, by making some ignorant comparison to the tooth fairy.



I have provided proof multiple times in this thread, click on the link above.



Sorry for your kids when they lose a tooth. They're not getting a buck under their pillow, when you can't afford pro status to support this site.

I feel like you care about this conversation way more than I do.

Does it make you feel better that you're a Pro and I'm not? I didn't realize $200 meant status in today's world. If that makes you feel good about yourself because you're a "Pro" on an internet gambling forum I feel bad for you.

I don't proofread everything because I'm not out to try to prove anything to some faceless person on the internet. I don't care that much. I'm not trying to prove how smart I am. Apparently you are.

Maybe you were weak and got picked on when you were younger or maybe you're just really insecure. I'm not sure why you are so offended and angry. This is just the type of person you come off as.

Please continue talking shit on an internet gambling forum, trying to justify your worth, while claiming to be a man of God.

[BigDofBA]

Bobby, I'm sorry about your heart attack and I'm glad you made it through it.

With that said, you should really do a self assessment of yourself. Based on you're writing style and personal attacks towards a few posters in this thread you come off as someone who is introverted and didn't have much of a social life growing up. Essentially you're an asshole.

Check this out.

https://science.slashdot.org/story/16/03/31/1644258/study-says-people-who-continually-point-out-typos-are-jerks

Cheers to being an asshole. You fit in perfect here.

Bobby, when you get accepted into Heaven, will God allow you to keep up with what's going on at SBR? Do you think there will be gambling?

[bobbywaves]

I feel like you care about this conversation way more than I do.

Perhaps..since I'm defending God, while you're defending literally nothing. But that's debatable, since you continue to comment.

Does it make you feel better that you're a Pro and I'm not?

No, just the opposite. The more pros, the better for this site. It's just sad you troll a sportsbetting forum, when you don't even gamble. The least you can do is support the site you spend time on. If you do, I'm sure SBR will hook you up with a nice garden variety troll badge:

I feel bad for you.

No sympathy needed, but the feeling is mutual.

I don't proofread everything because I'm not out to try to prove anything to some faceless person on the internet. I don't care that much.

It would just be nice to read a coherent post is all, without having to guess what you meant. For someone with nothing to prove & who doesn't care, you sure post a lot.

I'm not trying to prove how smart I am

Apparently.

I'm not sure why you are so offended and angry.

Not angry. Simply trying to educate, while defending God from your non existence claims.

[brainfreeze]

Perhaps..since I'm defending God, while you're defending literally nothing. But that's debatable, since you continue to comment.



No, just the opposite. The more pros, the better for this site. It's just sad you troll a sportsbetting forum, when you don't even gamble. The least you can do is support the site you spend time on. If you do, I'm sure SBR will hook you up with a nice garden variety troll badge:





No sympathy needed, but the feeling is mutual.



It would just be nice to read a coherent post is all, without having to guess what you meant. For someone with nothing to prove & who doesn't care, you sure post a lot.



Apparently.



Not angry. Simply trying to educate, while defending God from your non existence claims.

God doesn't need us to defend him BW, just help Him plant seeds, help them open their heart to see how wretched us as people really are, the need for forgiveness & to repent... I think your post are getting good,

God bless

[brainfreeze]

1 Corinthians 3:6-7


6 I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase. 7So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.

[bobbywaves]

you should really do a self assessment of yourself.

I did, it's why I'm posting in this thread. I have many charity donations on this site & gave out many pt loans, certainly not the behavior of an asshole. So your opinion doesn't hold water. I state truths & don't sugarcoat things, so I can see how that can that rub folks with thin skin the wrong way.

Check this out.
https://science.slashdot.org/story/1...ypos-are-jerks

Wouldn't have to point it out, if there weren't so many mistakes creating incoherent sentences. To not use spellcheck & proofread is pure laziness, a total disrespect to the folks trying to read the BS.

Bobby, when you get accepted into Heaven, will God allow you to keep up with what's going on at SBR? Do you think there will be gambling?

I would like to think so. Some have theorized thunder is caused by angels gambling on bowling matches, angels have been known to play poker as well:

[ACoochy]

Used to be a Catholic until I reached the age of reason...

[maggiethebestdog]

I'm serious as a widowmaker heart attack, which I had last year.

I firmly believe God answered the many prayers by sparing me, as survival rate is not very good.

So God, not medical care was the reason you survived??? If God wanted you to survive, why did he give you a heart attack in the 1st place?? If God saved you instead of the science of medicine, then just stop using any medical services all together. You don't need it. Of course you won't do that because you would surely die. Funny how your human survival instincts, which are our strongest instincts, get you to the doctor, while your insane beliefs give credit to everything except the actual reason you survived. Our life expectancy would be 6 yrs old if it wasn't for science. The fact you don't acknowledge that shows how ignorant you really are.

[JIBBBY]

God is good, God is great, so we all musn't hate!!!

Remember - Life if gift from God that we all must enjoy!!! Rock on fellas!!

[brainfreeze]

So God, not medical care was the reason you survived??? If God wanted you to survive, why did he give you a heart attack in the 1st place?? If God saved you instead of the science of medicine, then just stop using any medical services all together. You don't need it. Of course you won't do that because you would surely die. Funny how your human survival instincts, which are our strongest instincts, get you to the doctor, while your insane beliefs give credit to everything except the actual reason you survived. Our life expectancy would be 6 yrs old if it wasn't for science. The fact you don't acknowledge that shows how ignorant you really are.

Quick little fable,

there was a man stranded on a island where it was beginning to flood, people were getting on their boats to leave ahead of the flood... Some people on the boat noticed the man, and said com'on aboard it's about to flood the whole island!! The man said no, God will save me,... They left in the boat..

next a guy on a jetski was trying to save his jetski and had room for the man, once spotting him, he said com'on it's starting to flood, jump on let's get out of here... The man said no thank you, God will save me..

now the water was getting real high with the wind blowing, and a man with his little canoe with some belongings packed said jump in... or you are going to die, the man said no thanks, God will save me..

the man died in the flood, when he got to heaven, he asked God... Why didn't you save me from the flood? God said I tried, I sent people with boats, a jetski, and a man with a canoe.

Why didn't you just get in one of them?

[BigDofBA]

So God, not medical care was the reason you survived??? If God wanted you to survive, why did he give you a heart attack in the 1st place?? If God saved you instead of the science of medicine, then just stop using any medical services all together. You don't need it. Of course you won't do that because you would surely die. Funny how your human survival instincts, which are our strongest instincts, get you to the doctor, while your insane beliefs give credit to everything except the actual reason you survived. Our life expectancy would be 6 yrs old if it wasn't for science. The fact you don't acknowledge that shows how ignorant you really are.

I pointed this out earlier but no one ever really addressed it.

I don't understand how people can give credit to God in situations like that. Why did God let him have the heart attack?

Every time a big tragedy happens a few of he survivors always thank God. Does this mean God didn't care about the people that died?

It makes no sense. If you have a heart attack you don't lay in bed hoping God will save you. You get your ass to the hospital.

Hundreds of years ago people would have just died while they laid there and preyed to God.

I feel like these questions are very logical that you and I are asking.

[brainfreeze]

I pointed this out earlier but no one ever really addressed it.

I don't understand how people can give credit to God in situations like that. Why did God let him have the heart attack?

Every time a big tragedy happens a few of he survivors always thank God. Does this mean God didn't care about the people that died?

It makes no sense. If you have a heart attack you don't lay in bed hoping God will save you. You get your ass to the hospital.

Hundreds of years ago people would have just died while they laid there and preyed to God.

I feel like these questions are very logical that you and I are asking.

Regardless we pray to God,

and I did answer " the why did God do this " stuff...some pages back

God doesn't give people heart attacks, sin has allowed hiv, cancers, heart attacks, zika viruses, and all kinds of other problems into the world.. People sin, on a major level has allowed this, not God...

if everyone turned to God and really lived by Him, we would live in a dream land... So peaceful, no killings, and cancers... No big problems, there will still be problems because mans flesh is just sinful by nature, and there would be consequences but to the level it is now, just look at the shape the worlds in compared to 100 years ago, with lgbtq people, autism, zika, suicide, murder, rape sickness this is satan on the attack, and the only counter is God..

[brainfreeze]

Where are those " rocks are billions of years old " guys ..

ever heard of this find?

http://www.creationevidence.org/displays/london_artifact.php