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  • Seaweed
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    • 01-19-12
    • 26316

    #3081
    Brainfreeze, are you protestant?

    Protestants have thousands of DIFFERENT denominations with each claiming to interpret scripture through the guidance of the Holy Spirit. Is the Holy Spirit confused? How can this be? Which Church was established and has lasted since Christ unchanged through the centuries? My Christ was not founded by man, my Church was founded by Christ and established the Magesterium so that there would not be division, but unity. The one true holy and apostolic Church is One and universal (Catholic). I will pray for you.
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    • brainfreeze
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 05-13-14
      • 5689

      #3082
      Originally posted by Seaweed
      Brainfreeze, are you protestant?

      Protestants have thousands of DIFFERENT denominations with each claiming to interpret scripture through the guidance of the Holy Spirit. Is the Holy Spirit confused? How can this be? Which Church was established and has lasted since Christ unchanged through the centuries? My Christ was not founded by man, my Church was founded by Christ and established the Magesterium so that there would not be division, but unity. The one true holy and apostolic Church is One and universal (Catholic). I will pray for you.
      That's what happens when man gets involved ... twisting scripture for other than what it says and those that follow said thoughts are inserted into delusions not coming to full understanding until it's time for them to. If they all understood the Spirit they would all be in one accord, unfortunately they aren't. People will spend time searching and seeking as they should where the Spirit will lead them, and hopefully to truth sooner than later. From what i recall the " universal/catholic " church has been persecuting christians from the beginning of Christianity and teaching false doctrine from that time till now.

      As for your statement of " your church was found by Christ " is not fact at all it is an opinion you've developed through misunderstandings that you aren't willing to correct " at this time ". As for unity, i'm all for unity, unity in truth though. i could never guide or be guided by a false light, or false since of truth. If you want to believe the catholic false doctrine, you are free to do so. God loves you enough to make those mistakes, hopefully not understanding what you are doing to the full extent by leading others to do the same...

      i'll pray for you as well seaweed, i love you as i know Jesus loves you more... or i'd say nothing.

      2 Thessalonians 2:10-12

      10And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
      Last edited by brainfreeze; 11-16-16, 03:53 PM.
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      • Seaweed
        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
        • 01-19-12
        • 26316

        #3083
        '"those that follow said thoughts are inserted into delusions not coming to full understanding until it's time for them to. If they all understood the Spirit they would all be in one accord, unfortunately they aren't."

        Who or what gives you that authority for you to make the assertion that others misinterpret scripture? Your own mind? How can you trust MAN when MAN IS fallible. How can you GUARANTEE that your interpretation of scripture is the correct one and the other 5,000 plus interpretetions are incorrect? Someone else down the street is claiming the same thing as you and you say opposites. Where is the unity there? How can the Holy Spirit be confused? It can't be because of the Catholic Church. Established by Christ in 1 AD. Christ would not leave us a bible without a magesterium guided by the Holy Spirit to interpret it. Christ did not leave us a book. Christ left us a visible Church with leadership. That Church gave us a bible and through sacred tradition we can know for sure what the word of God says. Unchanged for 2,000 years and the Church has never taught false doctrine. Please have an open heart and mind and pray. Wherever it leads you, I wish you well on your journey. God bless you.
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        • brainfreeze
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          • 05-13-14
          • 5689

          #3084
          Originally posted by Seaweed
          '"those that follow said thoughts are inserted into delusions not coming to full understanding until it's time for them to. If they all understood the Spirit they would all be in one accord, unfortunately they aren't."

          Who or what gives you that authority for you to make the assertion that others misinterpret scripture? Your own mind? How can you trust MAN when MAN IS fallible. How can you GUARANTEE that your interpretation of scripture is the correct one and the other 5,000 plus interpretetions are incorrect? Someone else down the street is claiming the same thing as you and you say opposites. Where is the unity there? How can the Holy Spirit be confused? It can't be because of the Catholic Church. Established by Christ in 1 AD. Christ would not leave us a bible without a magesterium guided by the Holy Spirit to interpret it. Christ did not leave us a book. Christ left us a visible Church with leadership. That Church gave us a bible and through sacred tradition we can know for sure what the word of God says. Unchanged for 2,000 years and the Church has never taught false doctrine. Please have an open heart and mind and pray. Wherever it leads you, I wish you well on your journey. God bless you.
          Because my understanding wasn't taught to me by man... but by the Spirit. You ask what authority, you should know my answer, Christ Jesus. Christ did not establish the catholic church, and peter wasn't its first pope.. this is not biblical, only mans sad deluded attempt at confusing the truth... you are right about one thing though, Christ didn't leave us a book.. matter a fact " part of the Bible/NT " wasn't written well until after His death... the Spirit guided His said Words and meaning through His apostles, paul being a highlighted one that wrote most of it.. The gospel is the framework that the rest is built on. Seek and ye shall find.
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          • brainfreeze
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            • 05-13-14
            • 5689

            #3085
            and btw seaweed .. it's not true that the " rcc gave us are bibles ", im sure you have heard of Martin luther. im sure you know the power, christians killed, and authority that the rcc grasped until that point and why history was held that way. The same reason why the rcc still holds to apocrypha and the rest don't. paul nor peter, mark, or any other apostle wrote ANYTHING in a catholic church ... very deceptive, just sayin...

            we shouldnt ever forget about the tillmans, Wycliffe, and the luthers of the world. They are the ones who pioneered the transition for free thinking (able to cut the rcc back and leave for better understanding) and able to let the Spirit work and truth thrive...

            Last edited by brainfreeze; 11-16-16, 05:55 PM.
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            • bobbywaves
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 05-06-08
              • 13280

              #3086
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              • raydog
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                • 11-07-07
                • 6984

                #3087
                Originally posted by brainfreeze
                Because my understanding wasn't taught to me by man... but by the Spirit. You ask what authority, you should know my answer, Christ Jesus. Christ did not establish the catholic church, and peter wasn't its first pope.. this is not biblical, only mans sad deluded attempt at confusing the truth... you are right about one thing though, Christ didn't leave us a book.. matter a fact " part of the Bible/NT " wasn't written well until after His death... the Spirit guided His said Words and meaning through His apostles, paul being a highlighted one that wrote most of it.. The gospel is the framework that the rest is built on. Seek and ye shall find.

                the spirit guided = plagiarized and proven man made up bullshit ... you scientific illiterates still quoting proven fiction , i see... carry on.. the world needs gullible sheep too..
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                • Snowball
                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                  • 11-15-09
                  • 30054

                  #3088
                  Luther was no good.

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                  • brainfreeze
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                    • 05-13-14
                    • 5689

                    #3089
                    How are you doing raydog.. still the same stubbornness with a closed soul and heart intact i see. God willing you will see the light.
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                    • IlluminatedOne
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 06-27-14
                      • 614

                      #3090
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                      • brainfreeze
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 05-13-14
                        • 5689

                        #3091
                        Really good song illiuminated1, thanks for sharing ...

                        even though i don't believe Jesus birth day was in December. It's always good to celebrate the life of Christ, so happy holy days and new year to come!
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                        • bobbywaves
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 05-06-08
                          • 13280

                          #3092
                          I assume all Atheists don't put up Christmas trees nor celebrate Christmas, since Christ is the reason for the season.

                          Since it would be hypocritical for an atheist to celebrate the birth of Jesus as the son of god on Christmas Day.
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                          • bigtymer56
                            SBR MVP
                            • 07-31-12
                            • 4742

                            #3093
                            Originally posted by bobbywaves
                            I assume all Atheists don't put up Christmas trees nor celebrate Christmas, since Christ is the reason for the season.

                            Since it would be hypocritical for an atheist to celebrate the birth of Jesus as the son of god on Christmas Day.
                            You should really look up the history of Xmas
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                            • bobbywaves
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 05-06-08
                              • 13280

                              #3094
                              Originally posted by bigtymer56
                              You should really look up the history of Xmas
                              I looked it up & firmly stand by my comment.
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                              • NrmlCurvSurfr
                                SBR MVP
                                • 04-05-10
                                • 2896

                                #3095
                                Originally posted by bobbywaves
                                I assume all Atheists don't put up Christmas trees nor celebrate Christmas, since Christ is the reason for the season.

                                Since it would be hypocritical for an atheist to celebrate the birth of Jesus as the son of god on Christmas Day.
                                Assumptions can get you into trouble...I go to Christmas parties and fake it, I have a great time and don't go around telling people it's all BS...I go along with it, decorate my grandparents house and all that...but in my heart I know it's all a show...but I go with the flow
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                                • bobbywaves
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 05-06-08
                                  • 13280

                                  #3096
                                  Originally posted by NrmlCurvSurfr
                                  Assumptions can get you into trouble...I go to Christmas parties and fake it, I have a great time and don't go around telling people it's all BS...I go along with it, decorate my grandparents house and all that...but in my heart I know it's all a show...but I go with the flow
                                  Why are you afraid to tell people Christmas is BS, when that's how you feel?

                                  Why "fake it & go with the flow,"
                                  when your heart says it's "all a show?"

                                  How do you have a great time living a lie?
                                  Last edited by bobbywaves; 12-11-16, 04:36 PM.
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                                  • NrmlCurvSurfr
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 04-05-10
                                    • 2896

                                    #3097
                                    Originally posted by bobbywaves
                                    Why are you afraid to tell people Christmas is BS, when that's how you feel?

                                    Why "fake it & go with the flow,"
                                    when your heart says it's "all a show?"

                                    How do you have a great time living a lie?
                                    lol not living a lie...it's one day a year, I let them have their fun and I enjoy my time with family and friends so it's not worth trying to convince everyone it's all BS...unlike a lot of folks I don't force my beliefs on others, some get it, some don't...life is good either way
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                                    • bobbywaves
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 05-06-08
                                      • 13280

                                      #3098
                                      Originally posted by NrmlCurvSurfr
                                      lol not living a lie...it's one day a year
                                      Perhaps you're one of those "1 day a year" folks, overcrowding the church to standing room only capacity during Christmas mass.

                                      While the regular church patrons can't find a parking spot, let alone a seat.
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                                      • NrmlCurvSurfr
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 04-05-10
                                        • 2896

                                        #3099
                                        Originally posted by bobbywaves
                                        Perhaps you're one of those "1 day a year" folks, overcrowding the church to standing room only capacity during Christmas mass.

                                        While the regular church patrons can't find a parking spot, let alone a seat.
                                        dont get carried away now! I said I have fun at parties with fam and friends..you won't catch me at church so it's not me taking your seat...
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                                        • bobbywaves
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 05-06-08
                                          • 13280

                                          #3100
                                          Originally posted by NrmlCurvSurfr
                                          dont get carried away now! I said I have fun at parties with fam and friends..you won't catch me at church so it's not me taking your seat...
                                          Even if you honored the 4th Commandment, the chances of you attending the same church & taking my seat are slim to none.

                                          And Slim just skipped town.
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                                          • NrmlCurvSurfr
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 04-05-10
                                            • 2896

                                            #3101
                                            Originally posted by bobbywaves
                                            Even if you honored the 4th Commandment, the chances of you attending the same church & taking my seat are slim to none.

                                            And Slim just skipped town.
                                            So what's the big deal?...sounds like you have season tickets, what are you worried about?...
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                                            • IlluminatedOne
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 06-27-14
                                              • 614

                                              #3102
                                              Do not believe in anything simply because you heard it. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is written in books. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders. Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations. Only after careful contemplation, if you find that it rings true with your heart and its conducive to the good of all, then embrace it
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                                              • bobbywaves
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 05-06-08
                                                • 13280

                                                #3103
                                                Originally posted by NrmlCurvSurfr
                                                So what's the big deal?...sounds like you have season tickets, what are you worried about?...
                                                "Season tickets?" Church isn't an Eagles game.

                                                I'm worried about church regulars with diabetic neuropathy in their feet, who are forced to stand throughout mass. Due to all those folks who only attend church on Christmas & Easter.
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                                                • Snowball
                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                  • 11-15-09
                                                  • 30054

                                                  #3104
                                                  Dear Friends,

                                                  The world is full of devilish men and women. Perhaps you are one of them. Whether you are a chief sinner or a straying Christian, the question is: Could God take a chance on you? Will He forgive your sins and set you free, or are you doomed to a miserable existence in the depths of a fiery hell? What does God say? The answers to these questions and much more information are on this week's powerful program, Could You Take a Chance on Me?—Will God Forgive You? Should He?

                                                  http://www.texemarrs.com/
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                                                  • maggiethebestdog
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                                                    • 12-21-13
                                                    • 6700

                                                    #3105
                                                    Originally posted by bobbywaves
                                                    "Season tickets?" Church isn't an Eagles game.

                                                    I'm worried about church regulars with diabetic neuropathy in their feet, who are forced to stand throughout mass. Due to all those folks who only attend church on Christmas & Easter.
                                                    Then complain to your church and get them to keep out the once a year people. Or just shut the fukk up because nobody cares.
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                                                    • bobbywaves
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 05-06-08
                                                      • 13280

                                                      #3106
                                                      Originally posted by maggiethebestdog
                                                      Then complain to your church and get them to keep out the once a year people.
                                                      Already did, fortunately you're not there taking up valuable space.

                                                      Or just shut the fukk up because nobody cares.
                                                      Not happening, it's an open forum. If you don't care, why are you responding?
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                                                      • maggiethebestdog
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                                                        • 12-21-13
                                                        • 6700

                                                        #3107
                                                        Originally posted by bobbywaves
                                                        Already did, fortunately you're not there taking up valuable space.



                                                        Not happening, it's an open forum. If you don't care, why are you responding?
                                                        I thought churches were open to anyone.
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                                                        • bobbywaves
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 05-06-08
                                                          • 13280

                                                          #3108
                                                          Originally posted by maggiethebestdog
                                                          I thought churches were open to anyone.
                                                          Correct, churches are open to anyone. They would even welcome an Atheist like yourself in.

                                                          Most people don't visit their parents house just once a year. So why visit Gods house just once a year, while disrespecting His 4th commandment?
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                                                          • maggiethebestdog
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                                                            • 12-21-13
                                                            • 6700

                                                            #3109
                                                            Originally posted by bobbywaves
                                                            Correct, churches are open to anyone. They would even welcome an Atheist like yourself in.

                                                            Most people don't visit their parents house just once a year. So why visit Gods house just once a year, while disrespecting His 4th commandment?
                                                            Why are you asking me? Sounds like you have a problem with the church policy. Take it up with them. Would Jesus turn away people no matter what the reason?
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                                                            • bobbywaves
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 05-06-08
                                                              • 13280

                                                              #3110
                                                              Originally posted by maggiethebestdog
                                                              Why are you asking me?
                                                              You're as close as it gets to these once a year people, figured you would know the answer.

                                                              Would Jesus turn away people no matter what the reason?
                                                              Of course, Jesus turns away non believers & unrepentant sinners every day from Heaven on their Judgement Day. The reasoning behind their actions & excuses is irrelevant to Him.

                                                              This life is very short compared to eternity, but you'll find out soon enough on your Judgement Day.

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                                                              • recon1
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 08-13-12
                                                                • 2579

                                                                #3111
                                                                For me it's just hard to believe with current events and written word that anybody would refute Jesus at this point, but hey, naysayers are simply full-filling prophecy too. I see brainfreeze still holding it down. Your a true soldier brain.

                                                                Merry Christmas everybody
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                                                                • maggiethebestdog
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                                                                  • 12-21-13
                                                                  • 6700

                                                                  #3112
                                                                  Originally posted by bobbywaves
                                                                  You're as close as it gets to these once a year people, figured you would know the answer.



                                                                  Of course, Jesus turns away non believers & unrepentant sinners every day from Heaven on their Judgement Day. The reasoning behind their actions & excuses is irrelevant to Him.

                                                                  This life is very short compared to eternity, but you'll find out soon enough on your Judgement Day.

                                                                  I certainly can't argue with facts like that. I go to church several times a year because I support my friends and family. They aren't jackasses like you.
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                                                                  • bobbywaves
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 05-06-08
                                                                    • 13280

                                                                    #3113
                                                                    Originally posted by maggiethebestdog
                                                                    I certainly can't argue with facts like that.
                                                                    Correct, you certainly can't argue.

                                                                    I go to church several times a year because I support my friends and family. They aren't jackasses like you.
                                                                    Of course your friends & family aren't jackasses, they go to church because they actually believe in God. You're the only atheist I know who attends church several times a year, to appease others & not yourself. Which makes you hypocritical & a weak minded person, by not supporting your own beliefs.
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                                                                    • maggiethebestdog
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                                                                      • 12-21-13
                                                                      • 6700

                                                                      #3114
                                                                      Originally posted by bobbywaves
                                                                      Correct, you certainly can't argue.



                                                                      Of course your friends & family aren't jackasses, they go to church because they actually believe in God. You're the only atheist I know who attends church several times a year, to appease others & not yourself. Which makes you hypocritical & a weak minded person, by not supporting your own beliefs.
                                                                      So if I tell a 1st grader that Santa is real then I am a hypocrite?? It is called getting along with people who have different beliefs than I do. I know that is impossible for retards like you. Intolerant and judgemental people like you who claim moral virtue are the definition of hypocrisy.
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                                                                      • bobbywaves
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 05-06-08
                                                                        • 13280

                                                                        #3115
                                                                        Originally posted by maggiethebestdog
                                                                        So if I tell a 1st grader that Santa is real then I am a hypocrite??
                                                                        Correct...Unless you believe in Santa as well, which is a strong possibility.

                                                                        It is called getting along with people who have different beliefs than I do.
                                                                        Most people can get along with people who have different beliefs just fine, without sacrificing their own beliefs.
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