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  • Bostongambler
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    #3921
    Originally posted by BigDofBA
    That's where the natural selection, genetic mutation, and evolution come into play.

    As athiests, we agree we don't know yet but these are currently our best theories.

    As for faith moving mountains, that isn't true. If everyone in the world concentrated and had faith in God moving a mountain, it would not happen.

    People make claims like this all the time with no evidence or facts behind them.
    Well, I don’t think that was meant to be literally when that was written.
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    • BigDofBA
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      • 09-30-09
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      #3922
      Did you have a life before this life? Of course you didn't. Death is final. You don't get another life because man made up a book. Just my opinion. We can disagree. It's fine.

      Originally posted by rkelly110
      My proof is out there, out of people's own mouth. All you have to do is listen.
      Statements are the weakest form of evidence. I can say that I saw a flying pink unicorn. It is not proof imo.
      Originally posted by rkelly110
      All through human history man has thought there is an afterlife. All have worshiped different gods. The common denominator is life after death.
      Man has thought a lot of stupid things throughout human history. Man used to think the earth was flat and the center of the universe. Man used to think that we should burn females at the stake because they were witches. Man used to think that to cure the sick you drained their blood.

      The common denominator with religion is inconcistency. Every religion thinks they are the only correct religion. That's impossible. So even in the unlikely event one religion is correct, that yields the other 99% wrong.

      Look, I totally get it. People want to live forever. I understand the allure of it. I'm just not going to trick myself into believing in that fairy tale without evidence.
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      • Bostongambler
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        #3923
        The older I get the more I realize I don’t know anything. Did I have a life before this one? I don’t remember one, but maybe that’s part of the plan.

        As someone who has lost both parents in my lifetime I can attest I was not alone at their end. The love and comfort that I felt was real.
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        • brainfreeze
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          #3924
          Originally posted by BigDofBA
          Statements are the weakest form of evidence. I can say that I saw a flying pink unicorn. It is not proof imo.
          .
          Actually statements and witnesses are really good forms of evidence. A witness statement still holds weight in a court of law. If you needed direction before tech and didn’t have a map, all we would be able to do is go off someone else’s understanding to get there. We would have to have faith and as we see the signs mentioned it develops hope that we are on the right track. We wouldn’t be lost for long... through trust. Things are developed/made/invented by trial and error, time, and trust...

          as far as seeing flying pink elephants would be a lie. A lie that has no meaning or substance about anything. No one is looking for flying elephants because it’s a fact that they do not exist. If someone is adamant that they do exist, that one particular individual needs mental help... or enjoys lies ..

          It was law back in the day during the times of judges ... “ by three witnesses “ people were found guilty. This is why Jesus left us 4 accounts of the gospel ... Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John ... same TRUE story, different accounts ...

          Testimonies and witness accounts are a big deal ....
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          • rkelly110
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            • 10-05-09
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            #3925
            Originally posted by BigDofBA
            Did you have a life before this life? Of course you didn't. Death is final. You don't get another life because man made up a book. Just my opinion. We can disagree. It's fine.



            Statements are the weakest form of evidence. I can say that I saw a flying pink unicorn. It is not proof imo.
            Man has thought a lot of stupid things throughout human history. Man used to think the earth was flat and the center of the universe. Man used to think that we should burn females at the stake because they were witches. Man used to think that to cure the sick you drained their blood.

            The common denominator with religion is inconcistency. Every religion thinks they are the only correct religion. That's impossible. So even in the unlikely event one religion is correct, that yields the other 99% wrong.

            Look, I totally get it. People want to live forever. I understand the allure of it. I'm just not going to trick myself into believing in that fairy tale without evidence.
            Whatever. Like I said, if someone is for it, you are against it until it happens to you.
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            • Daniel Wages
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              • 12-17-17
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              #3926
              I’m needing a sign myself.
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              • RangeFinder
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                • 10-27-16
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                #3927
                Originally posted by Daniel Wages
                I’m needing a sign myself.
                Look in the mirror. Notice how engineered you are.
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                • Jayvegas420
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                  #3928
                  Read brain freezes post again & replace pink flying elephants with jesus
                  Last edited by Jayvegas420; 01-17-18, 03:47 AM.
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                  • RangeFinder
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                    #3929
                    Originally posted by Jayvegas420
                    Read brain freezes post again & replace pink flying elephants with jesus
                    Why would you want to distort the truth?
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                    • BigDofBA
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                      • 09-30-09
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                      #3930
                      There are thousands of religions that all think they're right. Doesn't that worry anyone that's religious? What if you were born into the wrong religion or picked the wrong religion based on your geography and culture?

                      Different Religions
                      Christianity - "Our religion is the the only correct religion and all other religions are wrong and misguided."
                      Islam - "Our religion is the the only correct religion and all other religions are wrong and misguided."
                      Hinduism - "Our religion is the the only correct religion and all other religions are wrong and misguided."
                      Judaism - "Our religion is the the only correct religion and all other religions are wrong and misguided."
                      Chinese Traditional- "Our religion is the the only correct religion and all other religions are wrong and misguided."
                      Buddhism - "Our religion is the the only correct religion and all other religions are wrong and misguided."
                      Primal-Indigenous - "Our religion is the the only correct religion and all other religions are wrong and misguided."
                      Sikhism - "Our religion is the the only correct religion and all other religions are wrong and misguided."
                      Juche - "Our religion is the the only correct religion and all other religions are wrong and misguided."


                      Different Denominations
                      I haven't even touched on the different denominations within these religions. Within Christianity you still have different views (Catholic, Baptists, etc.). Same with Islam (Shia & Sunni).

                      Christians are Atheists with respect to every other religion
                      So there are thousands of religions and every religion rejects all other religions. So Christians don't believe in 99.9% of the religion in the world. Same with Muslims.

                      And Atheists are Crazy why?
                      Yet with all this said....the Atheists are considered crazy people because they don't believe in 100% of the religions when Christians don't believe in 99% of them.

                      Every religion thinks they have all the answers to life. Common statistics tell you that even in the unlikely event one religion is correct, that means the majority of religious people are wrong. Atheists just want evidence....and again, Atheists are the crazy ones. Hmmmmm

                      I Guess Christians lucked into being born in Western Countries
                      Since we live in America, we believe in Christianity for the most part because of where we were born and our geography. All those children born in the Middle East, India, China, etc. will be forced to believe another religion because of their parents and I guess they will burn in hell for eternity because they didn't luck into being born in America or Europe. Yes, sounds like a just and loving God.

                      Truth is truth anywhere. It doesn't Change based on culture or geography
                      Like I've said before, 2+2=4 everywhere. Truth is truth no matter where you are in the planet. Religion doesn't follow this logic. 2+2=4 in America, 9 in the Middle East, and 17 in India.
                      Last edited by BigDofBA; 01-17-18, 11:59 PM.
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                      • RangeFinder
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                        #3931
                        Big D, God is not religion. As far as different denominations, it's just another body of Christ. One might be the hands, one might be the feet, another the mouth. It all depends on where God leads people. As far as being where you were brought up or live, Christainity was born in Jeurusalem. Right in the Middle East. Yes, he is a living and loving God.
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                        • rkelly110
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                          • 10-05-09
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                          #3932
                          What will atheists say if an asteroid is ready to put our lights out. Oh shit or Oh God!

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                          • Bostongambler
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                            #3933
                            There are no Atheists in a foxhole
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                            • BigDofBA
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                              • 09-30-09
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                              #3934
                              Originally posted by RangeFinder
                              Big D, God is not religion. As far as different denominations, it's just another body of Christ. One might be the hands, one might be the feet, another the mouth. It all depends on where God leads people. As far as being where you were brought up or live, Christainity was born in Jeurusalem. Right in the Middle East. Yes, he is a living and loving God.
                              Where does it say this? How do you know this? Where is this evidenced?

                              Every religion teaches people a different path to God so how did you come to this conclusion? If you don’t believe in the relgions then why do you believe in God? How do you know what to do to get to this alternate demension outside of space known as heaven?

                              Maybe you’re just more advanced in your progression.

                              I was Baptist...then Protestant...then non-denominational....then I just believed “in something greater”.....then I quit lying to myself and stopped living in fear and just admitted it that I didn’t believe it. After I reached this point, life became much more enjoyable.
                              Last edited by BigDofBA; 01-19-18, 12:48 AM.
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                              • TheMoneyShot
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                                • 02-14-07
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                                #3935
                                BigDofBA - Have you ever taken a timeout and just sit back in a chair and say to yourself... why were you made? Like, you were given an ability to function. Be human. You really didn't have to exist to begin with. It's more than just a brain and just a heart. Has to be something deeper. You were given a body.... you were given an ability to do whatever you choose to.

                                Did a spaghetti monster make you? Like really.... you can't say it's just science... sperm fertilizing an egg. Something controls everything... the main thing is your soul. It's a powerful person who made you... you were given a body.

                                That's how I know there has to be a higher power. That higher power is Jesus Christ.

                                Just think about it for a second.

                                What other credible explanation could it be?
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                                • BigDofBA
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                                  • 09-30-09
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                                  #3936
                                  Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                                  BigDofBA - Have you ever taken a timeout and just sit back in a chair and say to yourself... why were you made? Like, you were given an ability to function. Be human. You really didn't have to exist to begin with. It's more than just a brain and just a heart. Has to be something deeper. You were given a body.... you were given an ability to do whatever you choose to.

                                  Did a spaghetti monster make you? Like really.... you can't say it's just science... sperm fertilizing an egg. Something controls everything... the main thing is your soul. It's a powerful person who made you... you were given a body.

                                  That's how I know there has to be a higher power. That higher power is Jesus Christ.

                                  Just think about it for a second.

                                  What other credible explanation could it be?
                                  Where is this “soul” located in my body? Why can’t doctors see it?

                                  How does the soul get from the human body to heaven? Does it float up into the sky, then through the infinite realms of space until it gets to heaven? That would take a long time considering rockets can’t even get out of our solar system. Does it warp up to Heaven like Star Trek? Seriously. Think about it.

                                  I believe in evolution, genetic mutation, and natural selection. All things that are observable in the world.

                                  It’s improsaoble for anyone to be 100% certain about our existence but as of now, these are the best “theories” we have.

                                  You make fun and ask me if a Spaghetti Monster made me but the odds of a Flying Spaghetti Monster are the same as the existence of a God. People think we must have been created....but then who created God?

                                  Humans fear death. Humans want to live forever. I totally understand why people would trick themselves into selecting a religion to cling to.

                                  Do you goto Church every Sunday and Wednesday? Do you read the Bible?

                                  You don’t have to answer me but you should be honest with yourself.

                                  People that go out partying all the time and spend time on internet gambling sites don’t really convince me that they’re all-in on being relgious. Why not be real and quit the charade? It’s ok. You’re not going to burn in Hell for eternity and get poked by a little red man with a pitch fork.
                                  Last edited by BigDofBA; 01-19-18, 02:16 AM.
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                                  • PittsburghPlayer
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                                    #3937
                                    to some degree we are selfish
                                    some of us hypocrites, maybe not all

                                    those alive over the next 5 and 10 yrs
                                    are going to see...

                                    Why They REMOVED The Book Of Enoch!!
                                    (it did not fit the purpose of the church)
                                    https://youtu.be/xUQaKOWPZEE
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                                    • rkelly110
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                                      • 10-05-09
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                                      #3938
                                      Scientific proof of life after death.

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                                      • TheMoneyShot
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                                        #3939
                                        Originally posted by BigDofBA
                                        Where is this “soul” located in my body? Why can’t doctors see it?

                                        How does the soul get from the human body to heaven? Does it float up into the sky, then through the infinite realms of space until it gets to heaven? That would take a long time considering rockets can’t even get out of our solar system. Does it warp up to Heaven like Star Trek? Seriously. Think about it.

                                        I believe in evolution, genetic mutation, and natural selection. All things that are observable in the world.

                                        It’s improsaoble for anyone to be 100% certain about our existence but as of now, these are the best “theories” we have.

                                        You make fun and ask me if a Spaghetti Monster made me but the odds of a Flying Spaghetti Monster are the same as the existence of a God. People think we must have been created....but then who created God?

                                        Humans fear death. Humans want to live forever. I totally understand why people would trick themselves into selecting a religion to cling to.

                                        Do you goto Church every Sunday and Wednesday? Do you read the Bible?

                                        You don’t have to answer me but you should be honest with yourself.

                                        People that go out partying all the time and spend time on internet gambling sites don’t really convince me that they’re all-in on being relgious. Why not be real and quit the charade? It’s ok. You’re not going to burn in Hell for eternity and get poked by a little red man with a pitch fork.
                                        Wasn't necessarily going to get in a debating match about God or No God with you. The issue at hand is exactly what I posted above. Did you ask yourself all of those questions? I'm sure the posters would like to read your answers.
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                                        • Bostongambler
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                                          #3940
                                          Same reason a doctor can’t see your thoughts . They are there right?
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                                          • b1slickguy
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                                            • 11-24-11
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                                            #3941
                                            Originally posted by rkelly110
                                            Scientific proof of life after death.

                                            I would not call this "proof" of life after death.
                                            Life is not defined as electrical activity in the body.
                                            It appears they skipped steps 4 and 7 to qualify as proof.

                                            Step 1: Make an observation
                                            Step 2: Conduct research
                                            Step 3: Form hypothesis
                                            Step 4: Test hypothesis
                                            Step 5: Record data
                                            Step 6: Draw conclusion
                                            Step 7: Replicate


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                                            • A4K
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                                              #3942
                                              We, humans, share DNA with EVERY living organism on Earth. That alone should tell you that a higher power is at work.
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                                              • maggiethebestdog
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                                                #3943
                                                Originally posted by A4K
                                                We, humans, share DNA with EVERY living organism on Earth. That alone should tell you that a higher power is at work.
                                                Or evolution
                                                You people are scary
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                                                • A4K
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                                                  #3944
                                                  Originally posted by maggiethebestdog
                                                  Or evolution
                                                  You people are scary
                                                  I believe in evolution but don't you find it fascinating that we share so much of our makeup with every living thing on Earth?
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                                                  • maggiethebestdog
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                                                    #3945
                                                    Originally posted by A4K
                                                    I believe in evolution but don't you find it fascinating that we share so much of our makeup with every living thing on Earth?
                                                    That is what evolution is
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                                                    • PittsburghPlayer
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                                                      • 01-11-10
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                                                      #3946
                                                      Ripped a Bible in half a week ago and placed it in the garbage.
                                                      Trash collectors picked it up Tues evening.



                                                      Received a check for 4k in the mail the next day that I did not have to pray for

                                                      going to find some more religious shit to chuck out, gonna be rich
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                                                      • BOA12
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                                                        • 02-19-12
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                                                        #3947
                                                        Originally posted by maggiethebestdog
                                                        That is what evolution is
                                                        Evolution is the reinventing of the original by nature and time.
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                                                        • Snowball
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                                                          #3948

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                                                          • PittsburghPlayer
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                                                            #3949
                                                            Originally posted by BOA12
                                                            Evolution is the reinventing of the original by nature and time.
                                                            exactly man, that`s what I was trying to say - that cash over bibles rules every day of the year

                                                            cash over God?

                                                            pretty fukking obvious, ain`t it?

                                                            Christ! even your name/handle Sir B O A shows or reads to us here on the forum as BkofAma unless we add spaces to the B-O-A

                                                            it`s good
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                                                            • RangeFinder
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                                                              #3950
                                                              There isn't an athiest out there that can prove Jesus is not the Son of God
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                                                              • PittsburghPlayer
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                                                                #3951
                                                                no argument Ranger, there is a God

                                                                I just test his sense of humor sometimes for testing mine
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                                                                • b1slickguy
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                                                                  • 11-24-11
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                                                                  #3952
                                                                  Originally posted by RangeFinder
                                                                  There isn't an athiest out there that can prove Jesus is not the Son of God
                                                                  I'm not an athiest, but by the same token, there isn't a christian out there that can prove Jesus is the son of god.
                                                                  There is only belief, not provable fact.
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                                                                  • RangeFinder
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                                                                    #3953
                                                                    Originally posted by b1slickguy
                                                                    I'm not an athiest, but by the same token, there isn't a christian out there that can prove Jesus is the son of god.
                                                                    There is only belief, not provable fact.
                                                                    Read the New Testament

                                                                    Many many eye witness accounts
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                                                                    • b1slickguy
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                                                                      • 11-24-11
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                                                                      #3954
                                                                      Originally posted by RangeFinder
                                                                      Read the New Testament

                                                                      Many many eye witness accounts


                                                                      I have and nothing in there would hold up as provable fact.
                                                                      Him saying that he is the son of god and a whole cast of other characters parroting this doesn't prove it to be fact.
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                                                                      • PittsburghPlayer
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                                                                        #3955
                                                                        Originally posted by b1slickguy

                                                                        I have and nothing in there would hold up as provable fact.
                                                                        Him saying that he is the son of god and a whole cast of other characters parroting this doesn't prove it to be fact.
                                                                        I used to think like that
                                                                        sad
                                                                        tomorrow I will again
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