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  • Mitchell88
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    • 12-16-12
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    #1
    Serious drug question, opiates
    So in high school I got a football injury. This was in 2000 so the big crackdown on oxy's hadn't happened yet. I was prescribed to 80's a day the old school ones green monsters. Didn't know shit back then I was 17. I took them for a while they gave me perc's for a bit to get me off. I didn't know what "dope sick" was at the time, so at the end I just thought I had one hell of a flu. So I dabbled here and there throughout the years, a couple years ago I got hurt at work ( I do tree work) I got caught in the rope did some serious damage. Anyways they gave me perc 30's 2 a day for a long time. Then when I wanted to get off of them the doctor set me up with a methadone clinic. I just listened to the doctor, worst move of my life.

    I was up at about 125mgs for a while, was coming down because I was sick of feeling all fuked up all day. I was going down 5mgs a week. Ok so I had a court case pending a serious one. Everything was looking good witnesses weren't showing up about a week before the trial they start offering me deals like 4 years, then 2 years. I asked my lawyer what the fuk is going on and from what she could tell one of the witnesses was going to testify. So last week went of the rails a bit spent tons of money drinking and partying all night on the chance that I would be gone for a while. Rewind a couple months ago when I had that incident where I was drunk blocking the cameraman. The head nurse at the clinic saw the video and they put me on breathalyzers with a zero tolerance policy, I couldn't even blow a .08 which is the legal limit to drive in Mass. You have to blow a 0.0. If you fail a test then you don't get your dose that day that have a talk with you about the dangers of mixing the two blah blah blah.

    During last week I failed two of the tests within 2 days of each other. When you fail one you are not supposed to drive out even if you are legal to drive they call the cops. The first one I failed I didn't have anyone with me so I just ran out and asked my buddy to block the guards at the door. Was on the highway quick, cops came to my house but no biggie I was already inside nothing they could do. Next day go in have to sit with the administration and they were more pissed about me running then the test or that's the impression I got. I had to sign some paperwork saying that if it happened again I wouldn't run. No problem there. The next day which would be last Friday I failed another one. I didn't get my dose had a friend drive my truck up the road and went to work.

    So there is two different ways of getting kicked off the place. First one administrative detox they bring you down 5mgs a day until you are at zero. Second one administrative emergency discharge they just straight up don't let you come back end of story so whatever **'s you are at 70 for me you just don't get anymore. Of course no one shows up for the trial and I get all charges dismissed so no jail Im off completely. I don't know how many people here have had any dealing with methadone or opiate detox. I have been able to handle every other withdrawel I have ever had to go through, couple days feel like crap end of story. I have never ever felt anything like this in my life though coming of the methadone. I seriously am losing it. Have not eaten, slept, thought about cutting off my legs cause of restless legs syndrome. This is also supposed to last a month or up to 3 months!!! How the fuk is this even legal for them to just kick me off at 70 cold turkey? I bought 500 perc's, xanex, clonidine and it doesn't matter the most I can feel better for is about 2 hours. Its not going to matter soon because I have spent a ton of money doing all this and I still have to work in this condition. I really don't know if I will be able to handle it much longer.

    Has anyone ever had to deal with anything like this? I am in the process of getting a suboxone doctor but that's not easy either. Anyone have suggestions( other than don't take methadone again... no shit)? I would advise no one to ever get on methadone unless you are going to be on it for life and never fuk it up. I still have to pay bills and hold my life together and I am just about out of my expendable money. Anyone that knows anything that will help please let me know I cant do this agony anymore. I just cant.
  • gauchojake
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    #2
    Hang in there Mitch. That sounds horrible.
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    • pattymayo
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      #3
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      • Eddy Munny
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        • 08-13-13
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        #4
        Yeah I wanted to genuinely respond, but I fell asleep somewhere around page 13 of the original post.
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        • Mitchell88
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          • 12-16-12
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          #5
          Originally posted by Eddy Munny
          Yeah I wanted to genuinely respond, but I fell asleep somewhere around page 13 of the original post.
          ok creepy go hit on some chick you will never see and if you did she would laugh at you
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          • Eddy Munny
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            • 08-13-13
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            #6
            Originally posted by Mitchell88
            ok creepy go hit on some chick you will never see and if you did she would laugh at you
            Ok, I'll follow these instructions if you promise to provide CliffNotes to your original post.
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            • MoneyLineDawg
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              • 01-01-09
              • 13253

              #7
              You shouldn't ever use methadone or suboxone or any of that shit just another scam by the health industry that ends up fkkin you....Just a worse addiction that binds to your receptors making the withdrawal a million times worse.....Just taper down your painkillers and then take the withdrawal like a man with a little help from weed and/or xanax and then you're done

              I know all of this because some of my friends had a similar history to you....Luckily I only dabble

              I feel bad you're going through this....I heard that it's one of the worst things ever

              Maybe try to get some painkillers? Would that help...no idea
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              • Let's Go Rangers
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                • 03-18-12
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                #8
                I've heard subutex kicks ass, but until YOU HAVE TO CHANGE YOUR LIFESTYLE... The ending will always be the same
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                • The Kraken
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                  • 12-25-11
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                  #9
                  Tramadol, Lyrica and Kratom can all help calm the acute withdrawal symptoms. Of course, pecs, norco's and subs are better but you may not have access to all of them. I've been through it more than I care to admit. The acute symptoms are terrible but don't last long. Most people think it ends there. Well, it doesn't. The PAWS or post acute withdrawal symptoms can last years. Your brain becomes "rewired" chemically when on high doses of opioids for a long time. I mention this not to scare you but hoping that you realize you're in for a long fight. Ultimately my best advice for the long term, find an addiction councelor. They don't judge, don't drug test and usually have very good insight into opioid addiction. Short term, take as few Percy's and xanax's as you can. Get rid of the clonidine and get a beta blocker for now, metoprolol or Inderal work fine. Make sure you're seeing a physician to monitor you.

                  If you want to read more personal experiences and blogs and threads from other people that have gone through what you are, I'm going to PM you a link to a different site where there are many, many more ppl that will be able to relate.

                  good luck Mitch
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                  • timbaland99
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                    • 04-22-12
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                    #10
                    Mitchell88, can you give me links to the original threads so I can out things into context and perspective? I have some experience with this
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                    • TheMetsSuck
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                      #11
                      i felt like i was dying when i quit a 7mg xanax dose cold turkey. I was not interested in taking forever to ween myself off and felt like i could handle it. It was hell but im glad i fought thru it. I just got drunk as hell a few nights to help sleep and i was in the clear. felt like i was near having a seizure a few times......odd feeling. mb it was just in my head
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                      • minet123
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                        • 02-17-07
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                        #12
                        1)Coming off Suboxone was one of the worse experiences of my life-worse than cold turkey after a bundle and half a day habbit
                        2)Methadone ​IS A CRIME PREVENTION TOOL RESERVED FOR PETTY THIEF'S AND PREGNANT HOOKERS If you do not fall into one of those categories save your self the trouble.
                        3)suck it up because as you read this some poor soul is detoxing in some county lock up some place where you are at home with all your creature comforts
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                        • Cuse0323
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                          • 12-09-09
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                          #13
                          Shit...wish you the best man, don't know what you can do but endure the hell that comes with it. Any cure just delays the inevitable and can end up even worse in my experience. Don't want to admit it but I'm back on the same type of shit and feel like shit without it but nothing like you must be going through. I hope you can get subs and slowly wean yourself off as best as possible.
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                          • cecil127
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                            • 11-19-09
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                            #14
                            had a quack call in a script for me and my busted finger from the hardware store I was working at in 1993.."new stuff called vykodin i had a total hip replacement and didnt feel a thing"
                            took one and felt like I was 15 miles out to sea with no land in sight....ditched em right then/there.
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                            • Mitchell88
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                              • 12-16-12
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                              #15
                              thanks for all the answers guys.

                              I am going to see a Sub doc today and see how fast I can get going on it. If it is going to take a couple weeks then I am just going to say fuk it and try to deal because at that point it would seem like I would just getting addicted to something else when I will almost be through the it. I did get some percs but they just take the edge of a bit, I have a script for klonipin which has helped at bit. I am not so worried about the mental effects of it. I have to work though. I finally am at the point where I can have part of the business at the end of the season and worked my ass of to get to that point. The worst part other than restless legs, is just no energy. I look at a stair case and it looks like I have to climb Machu Picchu. Then I have to climb trees. Wtf.

                              thanks for link kraken
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                              • Capper007
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                                • 03-06-13
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                                #16
                                Moderation is important with anything. Ween yourself down slowly.
                                BOL
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                                • minet123
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                                  • 02-17-07
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                                  #17
                                  If you think a stair case looks like Machu Picchu coming off methadone
                                  WAIT
                                  till you come off Suboxone
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                                  • MoneyLineDawg
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                                    • 01-01-09
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                                    #18
                                    Yeah one of my friends came off a year of suboxone an I didn't see the guy for months....He said it fukked him up for a longtime and it took him a while to get bak to normal.....He told me that he wish he just stuck it out and went cold turkey off of a few blues (30 ** oxy) a day habit

                                    I know that no professionals would ever tell you this, but if I were you I might just get a bunch of blues, have fun for a week and then just go cold turkey....The WD is supposively a lot quicker to get over than subs
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                                    • PaperTrail07
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                                      • 08-29-08
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                                      #19
                                      jesus 7mg a day.....chillax brother lol...
                                      Originally posted by TheMetsSuck
                                      i felt like i was dying when i quit a 7mg xanax dose cold turkey. I was not interested in taking forever to ween myself off and felt like i could handle it. It was hell but im glad i fought thru it. I just got drunk as hell a few nights to help sleep and i was in the clear. felt like i was near having a seizure a few times......odd feeling. mb it was just in my head
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                                      • PaperTrail07
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                                        • 08-29-08
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                                        #20
                                        honestly your in too deep.....Ive heard a way to solve it is take a vacation ---far away so you cant find the drugs even if you need them---then you sit on a beach in pain...horrible pain...
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                                        • PaperTrail07
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                                          • 08-29-08
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                                          #21
                                          pain killers kill people
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                                          • Richards
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                                            • 10-20-10
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                                            #22
                                            I know someone who's been off methadone for 6 months. They tapered down for several months first and it was/is still a battle. Sub will be the same deal, so avoid it if you can. He told me Loperamide (Immodium) was able to make things slightly less intolerable...google it.

                                            Good luck.
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                                            • 5mike5
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                                              • 09-21-11
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                                              #23
                                              ive in there Mitchell, (*b4 the crackdown too) been there man..no court troubles, or rehab, or any shit like that just used them but was going about what u were if not more a day way back then).

                                              still like my roxys and xanax mixed up and crushed myself when i like to get hammered...i don't drink so i need something to deal with the gambling pressure

                                              methadone works wonders too if ur having a hard time coming down off them..no withdrawls AT ALL....and like poster above said u can slowly reduce mil. but it harder than anything to come off of totally...but a hell of alot cheaper than buying other shit off the street

                                              (i didnt read whole post #1 so i may have read it wrong, srry if i did and this has no relation to what ur talking about)
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                                              • 5mike5
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                                                • 09-21-11
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                                                jesus 7mg a day.....chillax brother lol...
                                                yeah 7 is danderous especially w/ painkillers trust me...i did too many with roxys 1 time and threw up badly just lucky i was still awake at the time...ill do 3 poles a day when i see them around and still be ok but i have a tolerance for them..

                                                but very dangerous just be careful

                                                my brothjer-in law passed away in the peek of the oxy craz 4-5 years ago mixing them with xanax, adderall, ect ect....went to sleeo and never woke back up....puked and suffocated and never even woke up...

                                                he was only 24 years old and in med school too....it can be a killer
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                                                • clynnm17
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                                                  • 09-08-10
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                                                  #25
                                                  I abused blue 30s for years. Awful awful social withdrawal, no energy, Cold but hot, no sleep, and no appetite . Everyone that I talked to about subs said don't do it... Ugh I hate to love opiates
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                                                  • Big Bear
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                                                    • 11-01-11
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                                                    pain killers kill people
                                                    this.

                                                    Do not take pills.

                                                    Weed is all you need.
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                                                    • 4TH AND STUPID
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                                                      #27
                                                      smoke weed bro. go on a vacation. find God. be a good human being give to charity. ur problem will go away I swear. good luck man straight up I hope you get better
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                                                      • a4u2fear
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                                                        #28
                                                        Zgnx
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                                                        • gauchojake
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                                                          #29
                                                          Anyone here ever try naltrexone for alcohol addiction?
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                                                          • Jayvegas420
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                                                            #30
                                                            Opiets.



                                                            sorry I thought we were talking about somebody else
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                                                            • Jayvegas420
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by 4TH AND STUPID
                                                              smoke weed bro. go on a vacation. find God. be a good human being give to charity. ur problem will go away I swear. good luck man straight up I hope you get better
                                                              Does the weed help with the Bi-Polar symptoms?
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                                                              • TheMetsSuck
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                                                                • 01-14-12
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                                                                #32
                                                                i believe it hurts bipolar symptoms. can lead to psychosis. dont mix ,xanax, alcohol, and pain killers. do them all on their own is my advice. plenty of people have died mixing those ingredients up
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                                                                • Big Bear
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                                                                  • 11-01-11
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by 4TH AND STUPID
                                                                  smoke weed bro. go on a vacation. find God. be a good human being give to charity. ur problem will go away I swear. good luck man straight up I hope you get better
                                                                  this.

                                                                  give us an update OP
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                                                                  • 53 defense
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                                                                    • 09-19-11
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Eddy Munny
                                                                    Yeah I wanted to genuinely respond, but I fell asleep somewhere around page 13 of the original post.
                                                                    Eddy you are a Prick!
                                                                    A funny Prick......
                                                                    But a prick nonetheless
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                                                                    • bigballa
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                                                                      • 10-18-12
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      mitchell my man any updates?
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