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  • nyplayer33
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    • 09-27-06
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    #1
    No commercial airliners hit world trade ctr
    A former CIA and civilian pilot has sworn an affidavit, stating that no planes flew into the Twin Towers as it would have been physically impossible.

    John Lear, the son of Learjet inventor, Bill Lear, has given his expert evidence that it would have been physically impossible for Boeing 767s, like Flights AA11 and UA175 to have hit the Twin Towers on 9/11, particularly when flown by inexperienced pilots:

    ‘No Boeing 767 airliners hit the Twin Towers as fraudulently alleged by the government, media, NIST and its contractors’, he stated in the affidavit.

    ‘Such crashes did not occur because they are physically impossible as depicted, for the following reasons: in the case of UAL 175 going into the south tower, a real Boeing 767 would have begun 'telescoping' when the nose hit the 14 inch steel columns which are 39 inches on center.

    ‘The vertical and horizontal tail would have instantaneously separated from the aircraft, hit the steel box columns and fallen to the ground.

    ‘The engines when impacting the steel columns would havemaintained their general shape and either fallen to the ground or been recovered in the debris of the collapsed building.

    ‘No Boeing 767 could attain a speed of 540 mph at 1000 feet above sea level ‘parasite drag doubles with velocity’ and ‘parasite power’ cubes with velocity.

    The fan portion of the engine is not designed to accept the volume of dense air at that altitude and speed.
    The piece of alleged external fuselage containing 3 or 4 window cutouts is inconsistent with an airplane that hit 14 inch steel box columns, placed at over 500 mph. It would have crumpled.
    No significant part of the Boeing 767 or engine could have penetrated the 14 inch steel columns and 37 feet beyond the massive core of the tower without part of it falling to the ground.

    ‘The debris of the collapse should have contained massive sections of the Boeing 767, including 3 engine cores weighing approximately 9000 pounds apiece which could not have been hidden. Yet there is no evidence of any of these massive structural components from either 767 at the WTC. Such complete disappearance of 767s is impossible.

    The affidavit, dated 28th January 2014 is part of a law suit being pursued by Morgan Reynolds in the United States District Court, Southern District, New York.

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  • Let's Go Rangers
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    • TheMoneyShot
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      #3
      So if a plane didn't hit the tower... what were we really witnessing with all the news footage on 9/11?
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      • Dutch
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        • 09-21-10
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        #4
        The history books will say it was commercial airliners. That's all that matters now.
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        • Optional
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          #5
          Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
          So if a plane didn't hit the tower... what were we really witnessing with all the news footage on 9/11?
          They* (well some of them) say the news footage was doctored.



          At the very least it is kind of weird that all 5 major networks were sharing the same camera feed that morning.


          * can't comment on who they actually are
          .
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          • jtoler
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            • 12-17-13
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            #6
            Thats correct no planes hit the towers its sad many dont know this. If they ever find out how cruel the govt is it wouldnt be a shock.
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            • jtoler
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              #7
              Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
              So if a plane didn't hit the tower... what were we really witnessing with all the news footage on 9/11?
              Computer animation, bombs blew up the towers, no 3k people dead either.
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              • nyplayer33
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                • 09-27-06
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                #8
                HE IS saying no commercial planes hit the towers
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                • jtoler
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                  #9
                  Right, computer animation, drone, or missle Id say, but definitely a controlled demolition.
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                  • Iw1nBets
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                    • 02-20-13
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                    So if a plane didn't hit the tower... what were we really witnessing with all the news footage on 9/11?
                    CGI yo. Pretty obviously.
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                    • sweep
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                      • 10-09-10
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                      #11
                      tell that to the families of the deceased you fukkin nitwit
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                      • rkelly110
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                        #12
                        Too bad that CIA agent wasn't Bin Ladens confidant, 9-11 would've never happened.
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                        • BennyBigNuts
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by jtoler
                          no 3k people dead either.
                          Never fukkin heard of you for one.
                          And two, you are one stupid fukk.
                          Tell that to the fukkin families who lost ppl in those buildings.
                          You're a fukkin idiot.
                          You must be a dumb hillbilly from the south.
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                          • Jimmy Proffett
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                            #14
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                            • Jimmy Proffett
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                              #15
                              By the way is this the same John Lear that believes that there are alien bases on the moon that house extraterrestrials that come to earth and feed on humans? Just curious.
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                              • Kermit
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                                So if a plane didn't hit the tower... what were we really witnessing with all the news footage on 9/11?
                                I heard some nutjob say that they were just cartoons.
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                                • Eddy Munny
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                                  #17
                                  I dunno about this "there were no planes" theory, but the U.S. government was certainly complicit if not solely responsible for the 9/11 attacks. That's all you need to really know.
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                                  • ramones951
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                                    #18
                                    Thousands of witnesses on the ground imagined seeing planes fly into the towers??
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                                    • Snowball
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                                      #19
                                      They were planes, but not the ones you think they were.
                                      watch this video about it
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                                      • Kermit
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                                        #20
                                        It's pretty bad when the conspiracy guys can't even agree.
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                                        • tto827
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                                          #21
                                          If you've got an hour.. Watch loose change.

                                          All seems semi-plausible until they try to explain what happened to flight 93.

                                          They say it made an emergency landing at some abandoned Ohio airport or something and then don't go on to explain why the families of those aboard have never seen their spouses, friends, or family again.

                                          If they were alive, it's assured someone would have said something. And if not, why the penetrate land the plane then kill them as opposed to just driving it into the ground somewhere?
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                                          • Kermit
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                                            #22
                                            Here are 2 things to me that deter me from ever thinking this is a conspiracy by the Government.

                                            1.) Why not do it at night when there will be hardly any footage or witnesses.

                                            2.) Why not let flight 93 hit it's intended target? Winesses from the area where the plane went down claim that the plane was on fire prior to it crashing and jets were seen in the air near it, so maybe it was "brought" down. And besides, if people are claiming these were not real planes, then there would have been no passengers to "crash" flight 93.

                                            If flight 93 was indeed shot down, I have no problem with that happening because it was something that had to happen. You can't let another plane crash into a populated building or area. The problem is that the majority of the people in this country cannot handle the fact that United States would intentionally shoot down one of it's own regardless if it was the right thing to do or not. Instead the story is that the passengers did it and got labled as heroes. It that what really happened? Who is to say. This is probably the only part of 9/11 that I am uncertain about.
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                                            • jtoler
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                                              #23
                                              ^^^ Thats the whole point, to do it so everyone sees it to garner public support for war, the less you see the more you would think cover up and conspiracy. Every great conspiracy they make sure you see it because unless its magic, people believe what they see. You believe flight 93 was shot down but flights going into pentagon and towers wouldnt be? Cmon now.
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                                              • Kermit
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by jtoler
                                                ^^^ Thats the whole point, to do it so everyone sees it to garner public support for war, the less you see the more you would think cover up and conspiracy. Every great conspiracy they make sure you see it because unless its magic, people believe what they see. You believe flight 93 was shot down but flights going into pentagon and towers wouldnt be? Cmon now.
                                                Why would the US makeup fake jets and all of that other shit to use in the daytime when they knew people would not only see it, but also videotape it? Maybe it was the terrorists that wanted the entire world to see what they had done. For every conspiracy theory, there is a rebuttal that makes more sense.

                                                And the towers got hit right away and no one was expecting it. Then shortly after that the Pentagon got hit. By that time every airport was alerted and that was when flight 93 made a U-turn in Ohio and was unresponsive, it was immediately tailed by 2 fighter jets because they knew something wasn't right.
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                                                • jtoler
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                                                  #25
                                                  You dont seem well versed on the subject but there are a thousand things wrong with the story.
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                                                  • jtoler
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                                                    #26
                                                    Has the govt ever lied before.
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                                                    • Kermit
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by jtoler
                                                      You dont seem well versed on the subject but there are a thousand things wrong with the story.


                                                      Yeah, and there would also have to be 1000's of people involved to pull it off.
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                                                      • jtoler
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Kermit
                                                        Yeah, and there would also have to be 1000's of people involved to pull it off.
                                                        Not necessarily.
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                                                        • TheMoneyShot
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                                                          #29
                                                          I'm all for conspiracy. It's a part of life. My original post was exactly what I meant to say... "What were we really watching?" Clearly it's a plane. Families lost loved ones. That's a fact. This was REAL. People died. But I believe our government influenced this somehow. Why? We'll never know 100%.

                                                          Every different person... has their own reason behind this. This wasn't a US government blunder. Even though I remember George Bush's facial expressions that morning... either he was an amazing actor... or he felt extremely bad for setting up his own country? Take a good look at the anger... the hurt... the guilt when he makes his statements to the public. Yes, I'll use the word guilt (responsible.) He looked like he didn't sleep for days prior to being on TV. It's one thing... I'll never forget.

                                                          It's hard to analyze everything. George Bush's facial expressions looked like a beat down man. Why?
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                                                          • stevenash
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                                                            #30
                                                            Oh look, yet another 9-1-1 conspiracy thread.
                                                            How many does that make now? 1000?
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                                                            • stevenash
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                                                              George Bush's facial expressions looked like a beat down man. Why?
                                                              Because he was tired, plain and simple.
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                                                              • jtoler
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                                                                #32
                                                                money shot u believe everythibg you see?
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                                                                • jizay
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by jtoler
                                                                  money shot u believe everythibg you see?
                                                                  This is the retort of nearly all conspiracy theory morons who don't understand logic. If you doubt the conspiracy story (which makes no sense), then you are accused of believing everything you are told and are naive. In reality, the conspiracy theorists are usually the most naive people walking the planet.

                                                                  Kid, do you live with your parents? On disability? I'm fascinated by your type and wonder how you function in the world.
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                                                                  • jtoler
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    ^^^^ The sheep are plentiful, so sad.
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                                                                    • tokio
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      So there were no windows on the planes? Thats crazy. And we were thought to believe these were normal passenger airliners.
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