If You Had Cancer Cells Generating In Your Body Would You Really Want To Know?

The Giant · 02-06-14, 04:06 AM

Cancer research has come a long way, and the cure rates are way, way higher than 6-8%. Especially if you catch it early.

I know a woman who recently beat pancreatic cancer. I always thought that was a death sentence, but apparently not anymore. I know another woman who is in the process of going through uterine cancer, and she is close to being in remission.

PhillyFlyers · 02-06-14, 11:34 AM

Sorry to hear about your moms, bro.

To answer your question , hell yes I would want to know. I would know exactly how to beat it.

I got the cures.

sbrhedge · 02-06-14, 12:05 PM

Originally posted by PhillyFlyers

Sorry to hear about your moms, bro.

To answer your question , hell yes I would want to know. I would know exactly how to beat it.

I got the cures.

Same here - my condolences.

My Mom died 6 months ago from cancer as well. I researched up and down for natural cures, and unfortunately I found several cures and preventions right after she past away. Before, I tend to be late on things.

I'm eating all the anti-cancer foods now for my health and safety. I choose to do things early or right-on-time.

So yes, I want to know ASAP.

PhillyFlyers · 02-06-14, 12:07 PM

Originally posted by sbrhedge

Same here - my condolences.

My Mom died 6 months ago from cancer as well. I researched up and down for natural cures, and unfortunately I found several cures and preventions right after she past away. Before, I tend to be late on things.

I'm eating all the anti-cancer foods now for my health and safety. I choose to do things early or right-on-time.

So yes, I want to know ASAP.

Two things if never want to worry about getting cancer, pal.

1. Keep your body alkaline.

2. Kill the Candida in your intestines.

PaperTrail07 · 02-06-14, 12:13 PM

yes and RIP.....never easy

PaperTrail07 · 02-06-14, 12:14 PM

Im just praying hash oil works for me otherwise....im coooked

Big Bear · 02-06-14, 12:58 PM

sorry for your loss man i know this is a sensitive subject to many...

Big Bear · 02-06-14, 01:01 PM

this is deep.

I guess if you really think about it... there are so many ways you can die...

in some ways i would want to know if i have cancer b/c i am a fighter and would never give up no matter the odds stacked against me.

but really thinking about just makes me realize cancer or not we should all live each day to the fullest.

Big Bear · 02-06-14, 01:03 PM

but there was an interesting quote by woody harrelson in True Detective

he says he doesnt hold grudges he doesnt have regrets.

he says that he believes that is the stuff that breeds cancer..

i know there are many causes but does anyone believe that
worrying and stuff like that may cause it?

Vegas39 · 02-06-14, 01:37 PM

Definitely would want to know. We dealt with it with mother in law last year. While never easy preparing loved ones and having affairs in order can be a big help

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Wulfman14 · 02-06-14, 02:03 PM

Originally posted by The Giant

Cancer research has come a long way, and the cure rates are way, way higher than 6-8%. Especially if you catch it early.

I know a woman who recently beat pancreatic cancer. I always thought that was a death sentence, but apparently not anymore. I know another woman who is in the process of going through uterine cancer, and she is close to being in remission.

20% of those diagnosed with pancreatic cancer die within the year. It is deadly because it doesn't show symptoms like other types of cancer, till it's too late. It is the liver failure that kills them .

I believe this his is what Steve jobs had But he could have lived. Instead he took the course of Scientology and Ayurvedic medicine and refused proper medical treatment.

Big Bear · 02-06-14, 02:24 PM

how is that detected wulfman?

Ralphie Halves · 02-06-14, 02:44 PM

Please Netflix "The Gerson Miracle". The cure for cancer has been around for awhile, but you're not supposed to know about it here in the US.

Absolutely zero strides have been made in this country to cure cancer patients. Just measures that kill/destroy you in the process.

I know, it sounds like I'm getting all PaulyPoker on this, but watch the movie. A close friend of mine just had a tumor on her breast split in two after a month of Gerson therapy. Anyone who has had their lives affected by this needs to see it.

muldoon · 02-06-14, 03:52 PM

Originally posted by Ralphie Halves

Absolutely zero strides have been made in this country to cure cancer patients. Just measures that kill/destroy you in the process.

Zero? Bullshit.

Check out survival rates for childhood leukaemia now versus 30-40 years ago.

Check out Hodgkin Lymphoma.

oiler · 02-06-14, 03:56 PM

well one of the lucky ones who survived cancer.was an uphile battle and still battling to stay healthy from all the damage the chemo did to my body.but everyday I workout and walk to try to maintain where I am now.cancer is a terrible thing and most people either have a relative who has it or a friend ,so its everywhere.one fact that I learned was,that if u ever develop a lump on your body especially your neck and it doesn't hurt,u need to get that checked because for the most part.that is cancer.

Ralphie Halves · 02-06-14, 07:37 PM

Originally posted by muldoon

Zero? Bullshit.

Check out survival rates for childhood leukaemia now versus 30-40 years ago.

Check out Hodgkin Lymphoma.

I should have combined the two sentences together, you're correct. Too much residual damage done, and it doesn't need to be that way.

sbrhedge · 02-06-14, 11:50 PM

Originally posted by Ralphie Halves

Please Netflix "The Gerson Miracle". The cure for cancer has been around for awhile, but you're not supposed to know about it here in the US.

Absolutely zero strides have been made in this country to cure cancer patients. Just measures that kill/destroy you in the process.

I know, it sounds like I'm getting all PaulyPoker on this, but watch the movie. A close friend of mine just had a tumor on her breast split in two after a month of Gerson therapy. Anyone who has had their lives affected by this needs to see it.

Just watched the whole thing now .. +1 to Ralphie and thanks.

Messaged Philly about some of the stuff .. seems like we are all on the same frequency on what to do.

In general, prevent and/or catch this stuff early .. makes it easier to keep moving along.

TheMoneyShot · 02-07-14, 01:48 AM

I appreciate all the posts fellas. It's good to hear other opinions on this. My mom's sister died of pancreatic cancer. She died in 6 months once she was diagnosed. She lived in a very remote area and didn't want doctors to treat her. Both my mom and my mom's sister started smoking at the age of 16 and never tried to quit. My other mom's sister has cancer as well... cancer of the tongue. Oddly... all sisters could possibly die within 2.5 years of each other. Doctor's did surgery on her tongue.... they thought it was successful. Told her it was a success and there wasn't anymore Cancer... but reappeared in the same area 90 days later.

I don't cry anymore over my mom. I really don't even think of it anymore. As in... wow... was she even my mom? It's like when that person is gone... you don't even really remember her being here. I cried a lot during the first 6 months after her death. But you kinda grow up... and time does heal wounds. Sad to say that's how life works. But people move on. There's always something new developing and your past attentions aren't on that subject anymore. It is what it is...

Oiler - I'm glad to see you fighting. And you keep fighting. It's nice to hear a positive story for once.

I don't know everything there is to know about Cancer... except it can kill you. You hear about people saying you must eat more vegetables etc. Is that true? I looked more into that Acidic/Alkaline Chart... and have changed my diet around... just to be more healthy. Every meal I have whether it's chicken etc... I have a piece of lettuce, slice of tomato, green onion, 1/4 of an apple with each meal. I know it doesn't sound like much. But it's a start. And I eat about 5-6 plates a day... so I'm trying to get more nutrients in my body. I'm also a non-smoker.

I will watch that video when I have time Ralphie. Thanks for the post.

My Uncle died of cancer in 1986... heavy smoker. Marlboro Reds. I was about 9 years old. I respected him 100%. Business man... powerful. Smart. Once the cancer took over... he was weak... lost all his hair... wasn't the same man anymore. Walked very slowly... with a limp etc. His health changed within 6 months. That fast. Unreal. I guess you could say most of my family members were all smokers who got cancer. Good people. Just had a bad habit. As for myself... I've practically been an indoor tanner (tanning beds) since the age of 17. I'm 37 now. Yes, 20 years of tanning. As they say... tanning is bad/hazardous to your health. People ask me all the time.... why do you tan? So, I guess we're going to find out one day if I get cancer. I'm a precise guy... always taking notes etc. The skin moles generated on my skin.... have practically increased by 300% from tanning year 16-20. But from 1-15 years... nothing really noticeable. It concerns me. But, it is what it is. So as the great Al Michaels once said... "Pick your poison." Isn't that the truth...

rkelly110 · 02-07-14, 08:42 AM

Sorry for your loss Money and others who lost loved ones. Congrats to the survivors in here.

But how about false diagnosis? Why wifes friend before Christmas had a biopsy done on her uterus. They said
it was cancer even before the tests came back. She was a wreak all through Christmas. The test came back negative.
WTF kind of doctors would do that to someone, especially over the holidays?

IDK what it is, but usually people can live a normal life and might be a little sick or something is bothering them,
but once they are diagnosed they go down hill quick. Is it a mind thing? One day your cool, the next you're on your
death bed once diagnosed. That's one reason why I wouldn't want to know.

Let's Go Rangers · 02-07-14, 12:10 PM

I currently have cancer.
Large cell non Hodgkins lymphoma

CURABLE

I went through it back in late 98-99 also.

The treatment this time is different

96 straight hours of chemo in the hospital.

I check in....
They put a "PICC LINE" in my arm....
Start "pretreatment"...Then once chemo starts....it's 96 straight hours.....and then aftertreatment.

It's every 3 weeks...a total of 6 cycles

Next cycle I'll check in around 9 am on the 20th of this month....
Noon-1 PICC line....
By 4 pm chemo starts.....
I get done and ready for release between 10 - midnight that monday.

The cancer manifested itself in my abdomen and had 20 or so enlarged lymph nodes that caused pain while putting pressure on stomach, intestines, abdominal aorta and inferior vena cava.

No pain now....
Masses shrunk to almost normal size....
Biggest side effects are " chemo brain" ( get lost in thought...search for words )
Fatigue
Dizziness when I first stand up
Some neuropathy in fingers
Just getting mouth sores

PaperTrail07 · 02-07-14, 12:44 PM

Its a huge factor....Placebo effect...

Originally posted by rkelly110

Sorry for your loss Money and others who lost loved ones. Congrats to the survivors in here.

But how about false diagnosis? Why wifes friend before Christmas had a biopsy done on her uterus. They said
it was cancer even before the tests came back. She was a wreak all through Christmas. The test came back negative.
WTF kind of doctors would do that to someone, especially over the holidays?

IDK what it is, but usually people can live a normal life and might be a little sick or something is bothering them,
but once they are diagnosed they go down hill quick. Is it a mind thing? One day your cool, the next you're on your
death bed once diagnosed. That's one reason why I wouldn't want to know.

bigboydan · 02-07-14, 12:50 PM

Originally posted by PaperTrail07

Its a huge factor....Placebo effect...

Claude !

rkelly110 · 02-07-14, 06:06 PM

Originally posted by Let's Go Rangers

I currently have cancer.
Large cell non Hodgkins lymphoma

CURABLE

I went through it back in late 98-99 also.

The treatment this time is different

96 straight hours of chemo in the hospital.

I check in....
They put a "PICC LINE" in my arm....
Start "pretreatment"...Then once chemo starts....it's 96 straight hours.....and then aftertreatment.

It's every 3 weeks...a total of 6 cycles

Next cycle I'll check in around 9 am on the 20th of this month....
Noon-1 PICC line....
By 4 pm chemo starts.....
I get done and ready for release between 10 - midnight that monday.

The cancer manifested itself in my abdomen and had 20 or so enlarged lymph nodes that caused pain while putting pressure on stomach, intestines, abdominal aorta and inferior vena cava.

No pain now....
Masses shrunk to almost normal size....
Biggest side effects are " chemo brain" ( get lost in thought...search for words )
Fatigue
Dizziness when I first stand up
Some neuropathy in fingers
Just getting mouth sores

Wow, sounds like a pain in the ass, but I guess it's better than worm bait. GL, kick that cancers ass!

Let's Go Rangers · 02-07-14, 06:46 PM

Originally posted by rkelly110

Wow, sounds like a pain in the ass, but I guess it's better than worm bait. GL, kick that cancers ass!

May be a little uncomfortable ( all beard & mustache hair now fell out with head hair so I look like a tanned cue ball )...but I could have a painful incurable cancer.

I'm lucky

No organs effected
Not in marrow

Numbers a little high or low but within reasonable range.

So far my body is taking the chemo relatively well.

Dutch · 02-07-14, 07:17 PM

I'd want to know because the pain will eventually drive you to the hospital and by then it'll be too late to try to fight it.. There have been plenty of strides made in the fight against cancer and they'll come faster and faster now.

My mom died from a brain tumor..She waited until she was blind with pain, literally, and died 3 months later..If she could somehow known it was cancer and not "a really bad headache" she might have lasted a couple of years and been able to travel or whatever the fuk.

I/O · 02-07-14, 07:24 PM

I'm pretty sure we all have cancer cells or cells that can convert/become quickly cancerous. I believe it's just a matter of regular good cells going bad.

We have or are exposed to a lot of bad stuff. It's more a matter of who's susceptible or what bad stuff gets triggered.

TheMoneyShot · 02-07-14, 07:45 PM

Isn't this a bitch. My aunt just died today. Cancer of the tongue. Unreal. Just got the text moments ago.

Now my cousins are feeling what I felt. I'm so sorry for them. All 3 sisters died within 2 years.

I watched the video last night that Ralphie posted. There's a clip on YouTube. It was very educational. I'm going to start juicing greens. I'm sure there's much more to it... but the key is juicing vegetables. I'm going to research more internet links about Dr. Gerson as well.

Ralphie Halves · 02-08-14, 03:17 AM

Originally posted by TheMoneyShot

Isn't this a bitch. My aunt just died today. Cancer of the tongue. Unreal. Just got the text moments ago.

Now my cousins are feeling what I felt. I'm so sorry for them. All 3 sisters died within 2 years.

I watched the video last night that Ralphie posted. There's a clip on YouTube. It was very educational. I'm going to start juicing greens. I'm sure there's much more to it... but the key is juicing vegetables. I'm going to research more internet links about Dr. Gerson as well.

My friend who I mentioned earlier didn't even go to Mexico. She just bought a few DVDs on what to do, and cured it that way from home. PM me if you want some of the other info she sent me, she gave me lots of it. This goes for anyone that wants to know.

muldoon · 02-08-14, 12:06 PM

If 100 people have cancer and there is a 5% survival rate, what % would you say either pray, or have others praying for them? (I'd guess it's 100%)

So 95% sadly die. 5% go on to say that prayer really does work, because, here they are - alive. Of course, no real answer for the poor 95% who weren't so lucky (didn't pray enough?)

This "therapy" from Gerson is expensive and provides false hope to those who are in the most desperate stages of their lives.

If the Gerson method really did work - why wouldn't they allow 3rd party follow ups to people they treat at their clinics? I'm not talking about unverified "let's ask people who bought the dvd". I'm talking about people who paid thousands upon thousands to get fruit juice poured in one end, and coffee shot up the other in the actual clinics?

Charlotte Gerson claims that treatment at the clinic has produced high cure rates for many cancers. In 1986, however, investigators learned that patients were not monitored after they left the facility [19]. Although clinic personnel later said they would follow their patients systematically, there is no published evidence that they have done so. A naturopath who visited the Gerson Clinic in 1983 was able to track 21 patients over a 5-year period (or until death) through annual letters or phone calls. At the 5-year mark, only one was still alive (but not cancer-free); the rest had succumbed to their cancer [20].

The (Not-So-)Beautiful (Un)Truth about the Gerson protocol and cancer quackery | Science-Based Medicine

http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/the-not-so-beautiful-untruth-about-the-gerson-therapy-and-cancer-quackery/

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Ralphie Halves · 02-08-14, 06:31 PM

So what is "expensive"? I was told at least by both people I now know have gone through it, that it's around $15K for the program in Mexico, and it's out of pocket obviously since American insurance won't cover it. How does that compare to chemo? I ask because I have no idea, but I'd imagine it's cheaper.

And in running a quick Google search, I found a contrary article right away...

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Conclusion

Though the media has under reported the Gerson therapy in general, and many scientists have attempted to discredit the therapy's value, there is no denying the scientific evidence. Studies have shown that not only does the Gerson diet therapy improve the quality of life for cancer patients when compared to traditional treatments, it offers them a higher rate of survival as well, and lowers the rate of recurrence in certain forms of the disease.

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It just depends on where you look. Of course, the organic community will champion this, while you're never ever going to get an American medical site to say anything positive about something it can't make money off of. I think as we've gone along, we've learned more and more than the American medical and pharmaceutical industry in particular is something we want to stand behind less and less.

Since we don't have a ton to go on, I can only speak for the two people I know now who are going through it, and my old co-worker has already broken up that lump in just over a month of home therapy. Her doctor said "I don't know exactly the science behind what you're doing, but keep doing it." 1 for 1, with another pending. Makes me a bit suspect of the 1 for 20 in that piece you posted. Now I know that was based on 5 years later, but there was a lot it left out, such as if they can continued with the therapy, age, etc. I would change my outlook more if there was solid, documented proof behind it. I'm really hoping it's not the case.

I'll say this. If I get cancer of anything, and my options are a process that will destroy my body along with the cancer (and that's a maybe), or a gentle, natural, food-based approach, you can bet your ass I'm at the very least going to try that one first.

chilidog · 02-08-14, 06:42 PM

Yes, I would want to know, but I don't go to the doctor for checkups unless something is wrong. So I suppose by the time I found out, it might be too late anyway?

Steve Jobs tried to cure his cancer the natural way, and look at where that got him...

ChalkyDog · 02-08-14, 06:42 PM

Stop thinking in terms of cures for cancer, as there is no cure. There is nothing that will make it go away.

Think of it in terms of treatments for cancer, and survival rates based on new treatments.

We make strides all the time.

chilidog · 02-08-14, 06:47 PM

Originally posted by PhillyFlyers

Two things if never want to worry about getting cancer, pal.

1. Keep your body alkaline.

2. Kill the Candida in your intestines.

1. Learn some physiology. You would die if your body were too alkaline.
2. http://www.quackwatch.org/01Quackery...s/candida.html