Studies-----Atheists are smarter than religious people

[SamDiamond]

No shit. Tell us something we don't know.

This explains why Rifleman is so fukin stupid.

http://news.yahoo.com/religious-people-are-less-intelligent-than-atheists--study-finds--113350723.html#upCr476

"Religious people are less intelligent than non-believers, according to a new review of 63 scientific studies stretching back over decades. "

[Snowball]

psychologists Miron Zuckerman and Jordan Silberman.

names you can trust.

[Optional]

No doubt atheists think they are smarter than religious 'sheeple'.

Meanwhile the religious enjoy the social and financial benefits of the group.

[Kermit]

Makes sense. It is hard for me to believe in an invisible man and a bunch odd tall tale stories.

[rkelly110]

The paper, published in the academic journal Personality and Social Psychology Review, said “Most extant explanations (of a negative relation) share one central theme—the premise that religious beliefs are irrational, not anchored in science, not testable and, therefore, unappealing to intelligent people who “know better.”

That's the trouble with high IQ know it all's, they think they are god. Science is ever changing. Who's to say a year
down the road they will find the measurable proof they need?

These same light bulbs who've had a life changing unexplainable experience, now believe in a higher being as a dim bulb.

[SamDiamond]

No doubt atheists think they are smarter than religious 'sheeple'.

Meanwhile the religious enjoy the social and financial benefits of the group.

Not sure I would want to socialize with radical christians or muslims.

Have you seen the contract that students at Bob Jones University (Christian) have to sign?

And, there isn't a muslim school that strikes me as being "social" and fun.

[BuddyBear]

As someone with a scientific background let me explain the study for the dim-witted out there on why this study is legit.

In the real world, we build our confidence in what we know based on scientific studies (not religious texts, not what the Pope says, not what grandma says, not what traditions says, not what we intuitively believe to be true, etc...). Science is a method of inquiry that helps us to better understand our world. It is not perfect but is by far the best method available. Scientists, of all kinds, do studies since that is what their profession requires. Because no one single study is optimal, scientists do several studies to empirically demonstrate what is true and what is not true. Scientists build theory and test theory through rigorous research designs and different methodologies. Because no one study is enough to arrive at a firm conclusion, scientists will often do many studies using different designs, different sample populations, different research questions and hypotheses, different statistical approaches, etc... The more studies done on a single phenomenon the more confidence we have in the validity of the finding. It is not uncommon to see hundreds of studies done a single topic.

Now, for this particular study that is reviewed, it is what is known as a meta-analysis. It does not do a new study but instead reviews all existing research on the topic and aggregates the data and computes a single statistic that empirically sums everything up.

The question of interest here is what is the relationship between religious belief (IV) and intelligence (DV). The authors conclude that there is a statistically significant relationship between the two variables such that religious believers are less intelligence than those who are not religious. Statistical significance means that the observed difference (i.e. on measures of intelligence) between the two groups (religious vs. non-religious) is so large that it is unlikely to be due to chance. In other words, we can be very very very very confident that this is a true finding and not some random result.

I personally have not read the study, but it is not uncommon for a meta-analysis to report how many studies that found the opposite result it would take for the findings of this particular study to be invalidated. And usually it is a pretty obscenely high number.

Conclusion: Religious people are pretty stupid compared to non religious people. But it should be obvious that someone is not smart if s/he believes in talking snakes and raptures and resurrections and floods where a man who lived to be 950 years old took two of every animal on earth and put them in a boat and of a miracle where Jesus fed 5000 people with 5 loaves of bread and 2 fish.

[PaperTrail07]

new study says 1 in 3 athiests actually believe in GOD....

[BuddyBear]

No doubt atheists think they are smarter than religious 'sheeple'.

Meanwhile the religious enjoy the social and financial benefits of the group.

Too bad it is not true.

Often times, this reason is presented by moderate religious people because they don't want to be associated with the fanatical and irrational beliefs of the religious group and instead trick themselves into believing that their church or where ever is a type of "country club" and has massive social and financial benefits for those who go. There may be some very modest networking purposes that can be served but such networking is not reserved exclusively to places of religious worship.

[frogsrangers]

Conclusion: Religious people are pretty stupid compared to non religious people. But it should be obvious that someone is not smart if s/he believes in talking snakes and raptures and resurrections and floods where a man who lived to be 950 years old took two of every animal on earth and put them in a boat and of a miracle where Jesus fed 5000 people with 5 loaves of bread and 2 fish.

But believing that the entire universe was caused by an explosion from nothing and that humans evolved from single celled bacteria is completely rational

[BuddyBear]

But believing that the entire universe was caused by an explosion from nothing and that humans evolved from single celled bacteria is completely rational

Well that is an over simplification but for the most part, yes the BBT is by far the best explanation for the origins of the universe and is widely accepted by the scientific community. Of course, science will help us to better understand such things as we continue to move forward and move away from the regressive nature of religion and religious authority.

[PaperTrail07]

does everyone agree you cant create something from nothing? ...start from there

Well that is an over simplification but for the most part, yes the BBT is by far the best explanation for the origins of the universe and is widely accepted by the scientific community. Of course, science will help us to better understand such things as we continue to move forward and move away from the regressive nature of religion and religious authority.

[muldoon]

PHOENIX -- A northern Arizona family that was lost at sea for weeks in an ill-fated attempt to leave the U.S. over what they consider government interference in religion will fly back home Sunday.
Hannah Gastonguay, 26, said Saturday that she and her husband "decided to take a leap of faith and see where God led us" when they took their two small children and her father-in-law and set sail from San Diego for the tiny island nation of Kiribati in May.
But just weeks into their journey, the Gastonguays hit a series of storms that damaged their small boat, leaving them adrift for weeks, unable to make progress. They were eventually picked up by a Venezuelan fishing vessel, transferred to a Japanese cargo ship and taken to Chile where they are resting in a hotel in the port city of San Antonio.

[innovation]

Only fools are not god fearing. The cunning and evil designs of the adversary will persuade all walks of men to assume they are more intelligent than the creator of this world.

In the end every knee shall bow and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord.

Men have a hard time with authority. We don't like to be told what to do and being atheist is an easy way of justifying sins. We all sin. True intelligent people are willing to learn humility. Which opens the doors to enlightenment and knowledge form the spirit. Men may walk the dust of the earth for millions of years but without the enlightenment from God they will only learn the things that mortals can comprehend.

So will you build your house on a rock? or on the sands of mortal intelligence and science?

Ask and you shall receive....Knock and it will be opened unto you.

God is no respecter of persons. His message is available to all his children no matter their social class or color of skin.

[rkelly110]

From one of Morgan Freeman's Worm hole episodes, who's to say we aren't in a video game?

[SamDiamond]

Only fools are not god fearing. The cunning and evil designs of the adversary will persuade all walks of men to assume they are more intelligent than the creator of this world.

In the end every knee shall bow and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord.

Men have a hard time with authority. We don't like to be told what to do and being atheist is an easy way of justifying sins. We all sin. True intelligent people are willing to learn humility. Which opens the doors to enlightenment and knowledge form the spirit. Men may walk the dust of the earth for millions of years but without the enlightenment from God they will only learn the things that mortals can comprehend.

So will you build your house on a rock? or on the sands of mortal intelligence and science?

Ask and you shall receive....Knock and it will be opened unto you.

God is no respecter of persons. His message is available to all his children no matter their social class or color of skin.

I'm not sure why, but that reminds me of this scene...

[BuddyBear]

does everyone agree you cant create something from nothing? ...start from there

It is impossible to have nothing...there was always something.

[ThaTopMoron]

It is impossible to have nothing...there was always something.

life.... not just inanimate objects

[C-Gold]

psychologists Miron Zuckerman and Jordan Silberman.

names you can trust.

Jews on a war path.

[C-Gold]

No shit. Tell us something we don't know.

This explains why Rifleman is so fukin stupid.

http://news.yahoo.com/religious-people-are-less-intelligent-than-atheists--study-finds--113350723.html#upCr476

"Religious people are less intelligent than non-believers, according to a new review of 63 scientific studies stretching back over decades. "

Are atheists smarter than religious people? I'd say yes. There are a lot of smart Jews that don't practice faith and there are a lot of religious mama's in the hood.

But don't forget that religious people live longer than atheists and I'd argue they also live happier lives.

[SamDiamond]

Are atheists smarter than religious people? I'd say yes. There are a lot of smart Jews that don't practice faith and there are a lot of religious mama's in the hood.

But don't forget that religious people live longer than atheists and I'd argue they also live happier lives.

Are there any smart jews that do practice their faith?

[The iron sheik]

does everyone agree you cant create something from nothing? ...start from there

Does the big bang theory suggest the big bang happened out of nothing?

[DwightShrute]

I would say that Agnostic people might be smarter than both atheists and religious folk. Why? More open minded. no?

[C-Gold]

Are there any smart jews that do practice their faith?

Are we talking faith faith or money faith?

[Kermit]

There could be a "God" somewhere, but I doubt it knows that we even exist. And it most certainly wouldn't be what people are going to church every Sunday worshiping, that God was placed into the minds of salves many moons ago to keep them acting right out of fear as were the many amazingly bizarre stories that people believed back then because the majority of them were uneducated.

Example, an astronomer back in biblical times knows when a eclipse will happen and warns all of the people that if they do not follow his rules that he will take away the sun. And the eclipse happens and everyone trembles in fear, and then he says he will bring the sun back, and it comes back. Then people share stories about it and it gets written about.

Obviously that could never happen now that people are not as stupid.

The human race is so minute compared to the rest of the universe that it is almost unfathomable.

[PaperTrail07]

Essentially....YES......energy forms into x, y,z creating ..........obv return question a 3 year old would ask...whered the energy come from?

Does the big bang theory suggest the big bang happened out of nothing?

[The iron sheik]

Essentially....YES......energy forms into x, y,z creating ..........obv return question a 3 year old would ask...whered the energy come from?

Essentially ...NO.

[C-Gold]

What happened right before the big bang and what triggered it?

[C-Gold]

Also the Universe is constantly expanding, into what? How?

[TheRifleman]

[TheRifleman]

[Optional]

What happened right before the big bang and what triggered it?

The universe collapsed.

Also the Universe is constantly expanding, into what? How?

The next collapse.

[TheRifleman]

If atheists are smarter than religious people, then why are there so few of them?

Atheists are not all smarter than all religious people. Atheism merely correlates with IQ. And IQ is merely one measure of smartness.

But never mind that, you clearly have no idea what IQ even is. Always the people who talk the most about IQ are those who know the least about what it actually is. Anyway, who could possibly be DUMBER than Sam Diamond? He has proved this over and over and over again....Sam is a Jew, they are supposed to be smart, but that myth has been exploded forever.

The fact is that standard IQ tests typically only measure analytical IQ, and in reality there are many different categories of IQ: physical, emotional, etc...

Obviously, since the vast majority of people on the planet are religious or believe in a God of some type.... it must be a rewarded natural selection trait and therefore "religious IQ" must be superior to "analytical IQ" at least from that point of view.

After all, what good is analytical IQ, if you are not going to carry that trait forward?

Is the truth only that atheists and religious people think really almost alike, using abstract models of reality,with one more specific and full of doubts, while the other, more nebulous and full of faith?

It seems to me religious IQ is even more necessary than analytical IQ and perhaps the atheists are just temporary blips or genetic oddities, that die out quickly, but rise up here and there every once in while in history.

I always thought that understanding the abstract things was a sign of an intelligent person. I know that an apple is a fruit, because I can hold one and examine it closely.

To understand things without rock solid evidence, is a challenge. But why do some atheists get all rapped up in science fiction and fantasy games.

They can understand fictional abstract thoughts, but not religious abstract thoughts. It's almost like they pick and choose based on what they think is most entertaining.

[PaperTrail07]

Please explain....LOL

Essentially ...NO.

[Optional]

If atheists are smarter than religious people, then why are there so few of them?



The fact is that standard IQ tests typically only measure analytical IQ, and in reality there are many different categories of IQ: physical, emotional, etc...

Obviously, since the vast majority of people on the planet are religious or believe in a God of some type.... it must be a rewarded natural selection trait and therefore "religious IQ" must be superior to "analytical IQ" at least from that point of view.

After all, what good is analytical IQ, if you are not going to carry that trait forward?

Is the truth only that atheists and religious people think really almost alike, using abstract models of reality,with one more specific and full of doubts, while the other, more nebulous and full of faith?

It seems to me religious IQ is even more necessary than analytical IQ and perhaps the atheists are just temporary blips or genetic oddities, that die out quickly, but rise up here and there every once in while in history.

I always thought that understanding the abstract things was a sign of an intelligent person. I know that an apple is a fruit, because I can hold one and examine it closely.

To understand things without rock solid evidence, is a challenge. But why do some atheists get all rapped up in science fiction and fantasy games.

They can understand fictional abstract thoughts, but not religious abstract thoughts. It's almost like they pick and choose based on what they think is most entertaining.

Doesn't less people understanding the concept suggest atheists might be the elite thinkers?