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  • PAULYPOKER
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    • 12-06-08
    • 36581

    #1
    More Americans committing suicide than during the Great Depression
    More Americans committing suicide than during the Great Depression



    Suicide rates are tied to the economy.

    The Boston Globe reported in 2011:

    A new report issued today by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention finds that the overall suicide rate rises and falls with the state of the economy - dating all the way back to the Great Depression.

    The report, published in the American Journal of Public Health, found that suicide rates increased in times of economic crisis: the Great Depression (1929-1933), the end of the New Deal (1937-1938), the Oil Crisis (1973-1975), and the Double-Dip Recession (1980-1982). Those rates tended to fall during strong economic times - with fast growth and low unemployment - like right after World War II and during the 1990s.

    During the depths of the Great Depression, suicide rates in America significantly increased. As the Globe notes:

    The largest increase in the U.S. suicide rate occurred during the Great Depression surging from 18 in 100,000 up to 22 in 100,000 …

    We’ve previously pointed out that suicide rates have skyrocketed recently:

    The number of deaths by suicide has also surpassed car crashes, and many connect the increase in suicides to the downturn in the economy. Around 35,000 Americans kill themselves each year (and more American soldiers die by suicide than combat; the number of veterans committing suicide is astronomical and under-reported). So you’re 2,059 times more likely to kill yourself than die at the hand of a terrorist.

    NBC News reported in March:

    Suicide rates are up alarmingly among middle-aged Americans, according to the latest federal government statistics.

    They show a 28 percent rise in suicide rates for people aged 35 to 64 between 1999 and 2010.

    RT reports:

    In a letter to The Lancet medical journal, scientists from Britain, Hong Kong and United States said an analysis of data from Centers for Disease Control and Prevention indicated that while suicide rates increased slowly between 1999 and 2007, the rate of increase more than quadrupled from 2008 to 2010, Reuters reported.

    Earlier this month, NY Daily News wrote:

    The Great Recession may have been at the root of a great depression that caused suicides to soar among middle-aged Americans, a government report speculates.

    The annual suicide rate for adults ages 35 to 64 spiked in the past decade, according to a study from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

    And a shaky economy that nose-dived into the worst financial crisis since the Depression may be the biggest reason why.

    ***

    The CDC’s Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report said the annual suicide rate jumped 28.4% from 1999-2010.

    It was the biggest increase of any age group, said the CDC, citing “the recent economic downturn” as one of the “possible contributing factors” for the increase.

    “Historically, suicide rates tend to correlate with business cycles, with higher rates observed during times of economic hardship,” the report said.

    David Stuckler (a senior research leader in sociology at Oxford), and Sanjay Basu (an assistant professor of medicine and an epidemiologist in the Prevention Research Center at Stanford), write in the New York Times:

    The correlation between unemployment and suicide has been observed since the 19th century.

    (And see these articles by the Wall Street Journal and the Los Angeles Times. This is obviously true world-wide. For example, last year the New York Times reported:

    The economic downturn that has shaken Europe for the last three years has also swept away the foundations of once-sturdy lives, leading to an alarming spike in suicide rates. Especially in the most fragile nations like Greece, Ireland and Italy, small-business owners and entrepreneurs are increasingly taking their own lives in a phenomenon some European newspapers have started calling “suicide by economic crisis.”

    ***

    In Greece, the suicide rate among men increased more than 24 percent from 2007 to 2009, government statistics show. In Ireland during the same period, suicides among men rose more than 16 percent. In Italy, suicides motivated by economic difficulties have increased 52 percent, to 187 in 2010 - the most recent year for which statistics were available - from 123 in 2005.)

    Indeed, more Americans are killing themselves today than during the Great Depression. Specifically, there were 123 million Americans in 1930. The maximum suicide rate during the depths of the Great Depression was 22 out of 100,000 Americans. That means that up to 27,060 Americans killed themselves each year.

    In contrast, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control reports that 38,364 Americans committed suicide in 2010. In other words, 2010 suicides were approximately 142% of suicides during the depths of the Great Depression. (The suicide rate is lower today than during the Great Depression, but - given that there are more Americans - there are more suicides each year.)

    The head of my local county’s mental health services confirmed to me today that there are now more suicides now than during the Great Depression.

    The Root Causes: Unemployment and Foreclosure

    Why do more people kill themselves during severe downturns? It’s not just a downturn in the business cycle in some general sense. It’s more specific than that.

    Unemployment and foreclosure are the largest triggers in increased suicide risk.

    David Stuckler and Sanjay Basu write:

    People looking for work are about twice as likely to end their lives as those who have jobs.

    ***

    Unemployment is a leading cause of depression, anxiety, alcoholism and suicidal thinking.

    ABC News points out:

    “Joblessness is a risk factor for suicide,” said Nadine Kaslow, professor of psychology in the Department of Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences at Emory University in Atlanta. “The stress is just overwhelming. … People are freaked out.”

    Bloomberg reports:

    “The suicide rate started accelerating in 2008, 2009 and 2010 - someone might still be working, but their house is underwater, or they’re working but they’re working part-time,” Eric Caine, the director of the CDC’s Injury Control Research Center for Suicide Prevention, said by telephone. “These things ripple into families. There’s an economic stress.”

    NY Daily News writes:

    “Most people who commit suicide tend to suffer from major depression, and this vulnerability tends to be brought forth by very stressful situations like losing one’s home or job,” [Dr. Dan Iosifescu, director of mood and anxiety disorders program at Mount Sinai Hospital] said.

    NBC News reports:

    The American Association for Suicidology says economic recessions don’t normally affect suicide rates.

    “Although U.S. suicide rates did increase slightly during the years of the Great Depression, reaching a peak rate of 17.4/100,000 in 1933, subsequent U.S. recessions have not been found to lead to increased national rates of suicide in the period of or immediately following each recession,” the group says.

    The latest numbers suggest suicide rates for middle-aged Americans now surpass the peak during the Depression. And there’s another possible explanation.

    “There is a clear and direct relationship between rates of unemployment and suicide,” the suicidology group says in its statement.

    “The peak rate of suicide in 1933 occurred one year after the total U.S. unemployment rate reached 25 percent of the labor force. Similar findings have been documented internationally. At the individual level, unemployed individuals have between two and four times the suicide rate of those employed.”

    The group also raises concern about the home foreclosure rate.

    Indeed, it is likely that more people have lost their jobs during this “Great Recession” than during the Great Depression … especially when you look at the masses of people who have given up altogether and dropped out of the work force.

    And it is possible that more people have lost their homes through foreclosure than during the Great Depression as well.

    No wonder there are so many suicides …

    AGB/HJ
  • zizoudane10
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    • 03-27-12
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    #2
    We already had this. Read my response there.
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    • PAULYPOKER
      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
      • 12-06-08
      • 36581

      #3


      Why would I read what you have to say............

      You already have shown me that you have no clue of the real world............
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      • zizoudane10
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        • 03-27-12
        • 7272

        #4
        Sometimes I look at people or read what they post and think to myself: Wow, that's the sperm that won??
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        • SamDiamond
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 10-19-12
          • 6107

          #5
          Originally posted by PAULYPOKER


          Why would I read what you have to say............

          You already have shown me that you have no clue of the real world............
          Ziz, go easy on Pauly.

          He learned "Truth" on the interwebs. Just ask her.

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          • PAULYPOKER
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            • 12-06-08
            • 36581

            #6
            It is nice to know that Sammy has help trying to Troll me.........

            You will need thousands of Trolls to shake my confidence pal.................

            Sammy gets to feel a lot better about himself after I bury him on a daily basis and he finds someone who agrees with him..

            This is Sammy's only glitter of hope...........
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            • SamDiamond
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              • 10-19-12
              • 6107

              #7
              Originally posted by PAULYPOKER
              It is nice to know that Sammy has help trying to Troll me.........

              You will need thousands of Trolls to shake my confidence pal.................

              Sammy gets to feel a lot better about himself after I bury him on a daily basis and he finds someone who agrees with him..

              This is Sammy's only glitter of hope...........
              Pauly, let me take a guess at you.

              High school graduate. No education, no skill set of any kind. Never could keep a job because the system is unfair and controlled by the wicked government. The only thing you have in your life is posting on this board, convinced you know "THE TRUTH".

              I'll admit it. At times I have actually pitied you. I think what kind of sad fuk you must be when you have so much misery in your life, and this is as good as it gets for you.

              You must spend hours searching the internet for all this shit you post, its mind numbing that you would think this is important.

              Oh well. It's all you have. It's fuking sad and pathetic, but at least you're not walking into a McDonalds somewhere and blowing shit up.
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              • PAULYPOKER
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                • 12-06-08
                • 36581

                #8
                For someone who claims that posting means you have no life........

                You have an average of 320 posts per month which means by your own admission your life totally sucks........

                Oops!, didn't think this one through, now did ya?
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                • Kermit
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                  • 09-27-10
                  • 32555

                  #9
                  There are more worthless people in this country now as compared to back then.
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                  • SamDiamond
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 10-19-12
                    • 6107

                    #10
                    Originally posted by PAULYPOKER
                    For someone who claims that posting means you have no life........

                    You have an average of 320 posts per month which means by your own admission your life totally sucks........

                    Oops!, didn't think this one through, now did ya?
                    Actually I have. I am not making fun of the QUANTITY of your posts, but rather your CONTENT.

                    Do you understand the difference?

                    I don't use this board to send messages or inform everyone of the "truth".

                    I enjoy SBR. I am not trying to change anyone's life, or post "truth" because I am smart enough to understand my audience.

                    You seem to think you're in a classroom lecturing to students.

                    If you died tonight, how many people on SBR do you think will pause for a second and wonder "Where is that lunatic who used to post all that nutty shit?"
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                    • PAULYPOKER
                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                      • 12-06-08
                      • 36581

                      #11
                      You enjoy Trolling because thats what you are on here and in life.........

                      98% of your posts are of trolling posters.........

                      Now that is sad as one could possibly get........

                      These trolling numbers are accurate and not exaggerated whatsoever......

                      Sammy buried again...............

                      Give up dude, I am superior to you pal,you can not win..............
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                      • Coachep
                        SBR High Roller
                        • 09-28-08
                        • 129

                        #12
                        When I was a kid I used to love sitting around a campfire listening to the ghost stories being told. We all knew it was fake but would suspend that disbelief because it was fun. That's why I LOVE Pauly's posts.

                        Now that I'm all grownsup I don't have time for fantasy or boogeymen or ghosts in the moonlight, but I can still log in here and read some grade-A hair-rising-on-the-back-of-the-neck conspiracy theories pretty much any time I want.

                        It's really great entertainment an I appreciate the time and effort Pauly puts in to provide it for us.
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                        • SamDiamond
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 10-19-12
                          • 6107

                          #13
                          Originally posted by PAULYPOKER
                          You enjoy Trolling because thats what you are on here and in life.........

                          98% of your posts are of trolling posters.........

                          Now that is sad as one could possibly get........

                          These trolling numbers are accurate and not exaggerated whatsoever......

                          Sammy buried again...............

                          Give up dude, I am superior to you pal,you can not win..............
                          No part of your life is superior to mine.

                          Let me guess, the last time you had a job was more than 15 years ago?

                          Here's irony for you. You seem to have an anti-troll theme going with me, but every single one of your posts is an attempt to troll the entire SBR board.

                          If it weren't for me making a fuking peckerhead out of you everyday, no one would comment in your threads.

                          Try this one on.

                          You have 2 threads in the Saloon-- One about Bitcoins, the other about Poverty---you have less views on those 2 threads than the thread about Arby's rings.

                          No one gives a fuk about you. And if it weren't for me-- you would be posting and bumping your own threads non-stop. Which you happen to do anyway....
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                          • Kermit
                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                            • 09-27-10
                            • 32555

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Coachep
                            When I was a kid I used to love sitting around a campfire listening to the ghost stories being told. We all knew it was fake but would suspend that disbelief because it was fun. That's why I LOVE Pauly's posts.

                            Now that I'm all grownsup I don't have time for fantasy or boogeymen or ghosts in the moonlight, but I can still log in here and read some grade-A hair-rising-on-the-back-of-the-neck conspiracy theories pretty much any time I want.

                            It's really great entertainment an I appreciate the time and effort Pauly puts in to provide it for us.
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                            • PAULYPOKER
                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                              • 12-06-08
                              • 36581

                              #15
                              Sammy the reject loses again.............
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                              • Darkside Magick
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 05-28-10
                                • 12638

                                #16
                                More of these useless eater slaves should blow their brains out
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