Police Break Into Private Home Without a Warrant and Tase Residents!!POLICE STATE!!

[The Kraken]

why did they go there? Were they just driving around and decided the next house they see they will kick in the door?

The people inside have no one to blame but themselves. I would have let them in, offered a refreshment and thanked them for coming.

All my life, no cop has ever had to come to my home. Some people, its a regular thing. I wonder why?

I see nothing wrong here. I sounds planned by people inside. A false flag opposite of sorts.

Dwight you bring in good points. There's only one situation that I can imagine the cops having the right to enter a private residence without a warrant and that's only of an active crime is occurring which could result in harm or death to the victim. If that we're the case, time cannot be wasted.

anything else, I find the "why" irrelevant. There is a system in place that protects the rights of the citizens and there must be trust in this system or anarchy would ensue.

[DwightShrute]

There's only one situation that I can imagine the cops having the right to enter a private residence without a warrant and that's only of an active crime is occurring which could result in harm or death to the victim. If that we're the case, time cannot be wasted.

ok fine but doesn't the whole situation hinge around why the cops arrived at the residence? I don't claim to be an expert to the laws in California or anywhere for that matter but if a call was made to the police and they arrive at the house, don't they need to make sure things are ok before they leave?

Like I said before, what if they just left and then someone was hurt or killed? To me its simple ... come on in officer. what seems to be the problem. Or at least open the door and ask what seems to be the problem. Everyone always wants to sue someone in America or blame someone. How about being good human beings first.

Most cops are good people but we tend to focus when they screw up and paint them with a huge brush as all bad. There were called to check on a potential problem. Could be small or big or something else. They did their job fine if you ask me. Maybe I am a social misfit? Who knows.

I have been in drunk tanks when I was younger. Once I left a party to go home with a couple beers for the road just as the cops were ready to bust the party and I refused to simply hand over the beers as told, instead I ran him over like a running back and spent the night in the slammer with only a sock and underwear on. Was I mad? You betcha. Did I bring it on myself? Sure did.

[The Kraken]

ok fine but doesn't the whole situation hinge around why the cops arrived at the residence? I don't claim to be an expert to the laws in California or anywhere for that matter but if a call was made to the police and they arrive at the house, don't they need to make sure things are ok before they leave?

Absolutely, I agree. In fact, I just watched a special on ABC or CBS the other night in which two DFW police officers responded to a domestic violence call, knocked a few times and left. There was a women in the house either dying or already dead. Potentially the killer was still there as well. But they just left. Terrible injustice to not investigate further. And the 911 call was horrific. That alone would warrant cops busting the door down and I think any sensible American would agree.

Like I said before, what if they just left and then someone was hurt or killed? To me its simple ... come on in officer. what seems to be the problem. Or at least open the door and ask what seems to be the problem. Everyone always wants to sue someone in America or blame someone. How about being good human beings first.

True but we also have rights that protect us from unreasonable search and seizure. Police know the drill. They must get a search warrant or any evidence obtained is inadmissible in court. Just because one wakes up in the morning and puts on a police uniform does not give them the right nor privilege to take away rights of others, and at least on the surface, that may have been the case here. Probably poor judgement.

Most cops are good people but we tend to focus when they screw up and paint them with a huge brush as all bad. There were called to check on a potential problem. Could be small or big or something else. They did their job fine if you ask me. Maybe I am a social misfit? Who knows.

Fair

I have been in drunk tanks when I was younger. Once I left a party to go home with a couple beers for the road just as the cops were ready to bust the party and I refused to simply hand over the beers as told, instead I ran him over like a running back and spent the night in the slammer with only a sock and underwear on. Was I mad? You betcha. Did I bring it on myself? Sure did.

Dwighty

[DwightShrute]

True but we also have rights that protect us from unreasonable search and seizure. Police know the drill. They must get a search warrant or any evidence obtained is inadmissible in court. Just because one wakes up in the morning and puts on a police uniform does not give them the right nor privilege to take away rights of others, and at least on the surface, that may have been the case here. Probably poor judgement.

yup.

so many ifs here we don't really know what happened


cheers

[PAULYPOKER]

yup.

so many ifs here we don't really know what happened


cheers

I told ya this 7 posts ago

It is called giving up your 4th amendment rights of the constitution, when you open the door and let them in,Simple as that...........

Since the people did not allow the cops into their home,the cops had no right to enter without a search warrant,period dot end..........

[The Kraken]

Pauly, Assume I've kidnapped my neighbor and am in the process of killing her when the police show up to my house. They knock and I tell them to go away. They can see me through the window with a knife about to stab her/him.

What's the plan of action here?

[PAULYPOKER]

Pauly, Assume I've kidnapped my neighbor and am in the process of killing her when the police show up to my house. They knock and I tell them to go away. They can see me through the window with a knife about to stab her/him.

What's the plan of action here?

Police can then invade home or shoot to kill or get an negotiator on the scene immediately........

[The Kraken]

So I re-read the OP.

With Domestic Violence it's a tough call. The call was made and at that point the police are to some degree liable for the well-being of those in the house. Given that the police could not see but only talk with the home owners, it's tough to know what's going on in there.

I posted a few posts back about the story out of the DFW area, while obviously not exact in nature, is similar. Except the police left the home. Now the family of the deceased victim is suing the city. It seems they have a lot of public support as well.

I can see both sides but I tend to err on the side of making sure everyone is safe. So ultimately given the nature of the call, I will say that I am ok with this and I understand the slippery slope that could ensue.

But then again, thats why we have a justice system and cheques and balances.

[Monitor-Tan]

So I re-read the OP.

With Domestic Violence it's a tough call. The call was made and at that point the police are to some degree liable for the well-being of those in the house. Given that the police could not see but only talk with the home owners, it's tough to know what's going on in there.

I posted a few posts back about the story out of the DFW area, while obviously not exact in nature, is similar. Except the police left the home. Now the family of the deceased victim is suing the city. It seems they have a lot of public support as well.

I can see both sides but I tend to err on the side of making sure everyone is safe. So ultimately given the nature of the call, I will say that I am ok with this and I understand the slippery slope that could ensue.

But then again, thats why we have a justice system and cheques and balances.

It is tough but then should I call 911 and say my neighbor is having a domestic violance? Who's to stop anyone from doing that.

The problem I see is that, if the police officer really felt there was immediate danger inside that house, he should busted in way before that. You have to give the time for this guy to actually take the phone and start recording and the officer chatting it up for a minute before going in. At that point I doubt the court with agree that the police officer felt there was danger if there was, he wasted a lot of time chatting it up.

The way I see it, if the officer went busting in from the beginning, I can see why the officer did it out of the fact that he felt there was danger, but the fact that he's chatting it up for a minute before busting in, I don't believe there was any danger, if there was, those officer epicly failed.

[chopperocker]