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  • TheRifleman
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 08-30-12
    • 7284

    #1
    Obama trying to TAX internet sales!!!
    Thank god for the GOP in the house who will almost certainly BLOCK the legislation....


    UPDATE 4-U.S. Senate votes to move forward on bill taxing Internet sales

    Mon Apr 22, 2013 6:23pm EDT


    * Internet sales tax bill expected to pass Senate this week * President Barack Obama weighs in with backing for bill * More opposition ahead in House of Representatives * Financial concerns weigh in for first time, opposing effort By Kim Dixon and Nanette Byrnes WASHINGTON, April 22 (Reuters) - A measure to empower U.S. states to require out-of-state retailers to collect online sales tax cleared a legislative hurdle in the Senate on Monday, after earlier winning official backing from President Barack Obama. Seventy-four senators voted to limit debate and move forward with a final vote on the proposed legislation in the Democratic-controlled Senate, likely on Wednesday. "You have businesses all around America on Main Streets and shopping malls collecting sales tax on the things that they sell, competing with Internet retailers who do not," said Democratic co-sponsor Senator Richard Durbin. Supporters of the measure include brick-and-mortar retailers such as Wal-Mart Stores Inc and Best Buy Co Inc and cash-strapped state governments, along with Amazon.com Inc , which hopes to simplify its U.S. state retail tax situation. Opponents include many online merchants, including eBay Inc and Overstock.com Inc. Prospects for the bipartisan measure are murkier in the Republican-controlled House of Representatives, where some Republicans view it as a tax increase. Lobbyists on both sides are working to make their case in Congress. Several new wrinkles emerged on Monday, a key one being that the Obama administration for the first time officially backed the measure. White House spokesman Jay Carney said the bill "will level the playing field for local small business retailers who are undercut every day by out-of-state on-line companies." Amazon, with its extensive network of distribution centers, already collects tax in nine states, and has agreements with seven more states to start charging in the next year. Amazon has been actively supporting the bill on Capitol Hill. The bipartisan National Governors Association supports the tax, and in a letter to lawmakers on Monday said the disparate treatment of online and Main Street businesses is "shuttering stores and undermining state budgets." For its part, eBay's chief executive launched a major lobbying blitz this week, pleading with its millions of users to oppose the effort. WALL STREET WEIGHS IN In a twist to the lobbying on the issue that has gone on for years, the Securities Industry and Financial Markets Association came out in opposition to the bill. Representing big investment banks like Goldman Sachs Group , but also online companies like E*TRADE Financial Corp , SIFMA said the bill could lead to a state-level financial transaction tax and "unexpected" consumer costs. Eleven EU countries are embracing a federal-level financial transaction tax on trading in stocks, bonds and derivatives. The Obama administration opposes such a tax for the United States. The idea of imposing a financial transaction tax at the state level in the United States seemed unlikely to Verenda Smith, deputy director of the Federation of Tax Administrators. She said she was not aware of any states that impose such a tax. "It's hard for a state to even broaden their sales tax to include hairdressers," Smith said. "I don't want to think how hard it would be to broaden to financial transactions." Under current law, states can only mandate that online merchants with physical stores or affiliates within state borders collect sales tax. Consumers are supposed to pay the tax on their own, but few even know about this. As a result, online-only retailers often have a pricing edge over bricks-and-mortar retailers in many markets. Critics say it will create more complications, especially for small businesses, which may have to comply with conflicting state laws and new software. "The bill has never been about helping Main Street but about helping Big Box stores," said Steve Delbianco, an official with a coalition of e-commerce companies called Netchoice. The legislation would extend the authority of U.S. states to online sales outside their physical borders, though it would not require them to do so. It would exempt merchants with online annual out-of-state sales of $1 million or less. "The reason the (banks) are nervous about it is they have managed to successfully argue against their services being taxed because it is so mobile," said Kim Ruben, an economist and director of state issues at the Tax Policy Center, a centrist think tank in Washington.</pre> http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...0D913720130422
  • TheRifleman
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 08-30-12
    • 7284

    #2
    The only thing the loser President can do is raise taxes and or double the deficit....

    What a worthless POS.
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    • TheRifleman
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 08-30-12
      • 7284

      #3
      THE WORST POTUS .................EVER!!!!

      (well, maybe not the worst....we always have Jimmah Carter to fall back on)
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      • Kermit
        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
        • 09-27-10
        • 32555

        #4
        Obama is a goofus.
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        • InTheDrink
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 11-23-09
          • 23983

          #5
          rifleman =

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          • Andy117
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 02-07-10
            • 9511

            #6
            If you really want to help small business owners (like Republicans claim to) you'd be fine with this. Retailers have a distinct disadvantage vs internet sites when you factor in sales tax.
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            • hugh613
              SBR Sharp
              • 11-25-12
              • 299

              #7
              Originally posted by TheRifleman
              THE WORST POTUS .................EVER!!!!

              (well, maybe not the worst....we always have Jimmah Carter to fall back on)
              Gerald Ford anyone?
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              • hugh613
                SBR Sharp
                • 11-25-12
                • 299

                #8
                Although I do agree that Obama is the worst President in the Post WWII era...
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                • TheRifleman
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 08-30-12
                  • 7284

                  #9
                  It will have very little impact on online merchants, and in most cases won't help brick and mortar merchants because the online retailer has virtually zero overhead, while B+m merchants have huge overhead expenses.

                  Online merchants will always be able to out compete B+M merchants for that reason, regardless of any tax levied on them...I mean YOU.

                  The only reason this tax is being considered, is: MORE TAX DOLLARS FROM YOU!!!!

                  THE LEFTISTS CAN NEVER,EVER, EVER GET ENOUGH OF YOUR MONEY TO PISS AWAY!!
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                  • chipper
                    SBR MVP
                    • 01-07-10
                    • 1994

                    #10
                    This isn't Obama as much as the large big box retailers and state treasurers who are pushing for it big time. eBay flew myself and 49 other sellers to Capital Hill in 2007 to testify to congress on behalf of the "little guy" as part of the eBay Small Business Summit. The proposed bill got shelved. We knew then, that it would be back and it is has. Without some type of "clearing house" or national sales tax it would be virtually impossible for the small business to collect from and remit sales tax to every county in the country.
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                    • PAULYPOKER
                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                      • 12-06-08
                      • 36581

                      #11
                      Tryin?

                      Better try gonna.........
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