***The MMA Subforum Private Thread***

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you posted his pics training and they banned you? that shit was f-cking crazy. I mean he put those pics on the internet not you.

[DeFactoCrippler]

dfc how many times has shari banned you?

oh lol, i also got "suspended" from vaughanys thread for 24 hours because some new -- that came out of nowhere power posting and white knighting EVERY ghost.

Never even was told what it was, could have even been the word "manlet" for all I know. funny cause V was the mod at the time and they went over his head hha

[DeFactoCrippler]

you posted his pics training and they banned you? that shit was f-cking crazy. I mean he put those pics on the internet not you.

3 days of my life i could have been posting on sbr.

3 days of my life i cant get back.

it was also during a strikeforce event. i went 4-0 and was going to post but was banned.

[sideloaded]

based on sherdog logs, wannabet was reporting every post of yours

[MD]

3 days of my life i could have been posting on sbr.

3 days of my life i cant get back.

it was also during a strikeforce event. i went 4-0 and was going to post but was banned.

Good job fellas. Can't wait for the next one.

[DeFactoCrippler]

Good job fellas. Can't wait for the next one.

you know what needs to be done

[MD]

you know what needs to be done

You want me to cry and smear shit all over my self? Way ahead of you.

[DeFactoCrippler]

based on sherdog logs, wannabet was reporting every post of yours

I accused punisher of snitching because shari quoted his post but in my blind fury i jumped to conclusions. My apologies to him as it probably was wannasuckonit in conjunction with others.

Guys were just lurking waiting for any rules infraction. Dont really know how you could consider yourself a man after doing that.

cant make this shit up

[DeFactoCrippler]

You want me to cry and smear shit all over my self? Way ahead of you.

you know what you gotta do. you goota put in work for the set.

for all i know you could be bow-then brah.

[PunisherIND]

in the next round of snitching i got hit up by 'sbr forum' saying i couldnt even mention a poster or it would result in an immediate ban

lol 'sbr forum' warned you too? they implied fo show is still here. any theory who it is?

[MD]

you know what you gotta do. you goota put in work for the set.

for all i know you could be bow-then brah.

But Simon... you're a --.

[sideloaded]

lol 'sbr forum' warned you too? they implied fo show is still here. any theory who it is?

too many -- to even guess, it's crazy the ghost problem in this forum

[DeFactoCrippler]

lol 'sbr forum' warned you too? they implied fo show is still here. any theory who it is?

he made a reappearance at sherdog around the time of that infraction. he came at vaughany said he had no balls lol.

i think him and wannsuck just came back and snitched everyone out.

but instead of ending it there wannasuck hung around and tried to talk baseball

mind blowing

guys asshole is probably looser than ra dickeys

cant make it up

[PunisherIND]

I accused punisher of snitching because shari quoted his post but in my blind fury i jumped to conclusions. My apologies to him as it probably was wannasuckonit in conjunction with others.

Guys were just lurking waiting for any rules infraction. Dont really know how you could consider yourself a man after doing that.

cant make this shit up

no worries my niq. although you should have known better than to think i'd snitch. that stung.

[Hannibal]

gotta look on the brightside boys
i love have little beta -- around me, it elevates my stature that much more by comparison

every time ive been to a party filled with beta male fools is when i get the most action from the ladies. i gotta thank these guys for making me that much cooler

[DeFactoCrippler]

no worries my niq. although you should have known better than to think i'd snitch. that stung.

sorry brah i was doing a lot of blow at the time. i know its no excuse.

didnt really think you would do it but i jus couldnt imagine their were hidden forces laying in wait. unreal stuff

[Hannibal]

didnt feel like posting in popopyououyo thread so i'll talk about melendez here

melendez is not small
no way he makes 145 nowadays.... did you see when he competed at 45? he was puny and had no muscles
at 5'9 with a reach of 71 (longer than bendo), and serious musculature he is no tiny LW. he is a very good size and i would expect he walks around upwards of 180
did you guys see how he towered over kawajiri? he made kawa look small and weak
i know kawa is at 45 now, but he was always jacked as hell and won a lot of his fights by being more physical. gil beat him down to 145
gil looked like a beast against masvidal too. he walked down a taller, longer striker, and beat him to the punch consistently

im thinking he had an off night against thompson, but thompson is no joke it. i think a guy with a wrestling,movement and kicking game like thompson is tailor made to shut down diaz.

[DeFactoCrippler]

im thinking he had an off night against thompson, but thompson is no joke it. i think a guy with a wrestling,movement and kicking game like thompson is tailor made to shut down diaz.

focking this man. clear off night. its my personal belief he took it easy in the fight because thompson fought with an injury instead of pulling out and ruining the payday

[MD]

The problem that Melendez has is the problem that Mousasi has: MMA fans are ignorant and don't appreciate what people have accomplished throughout their careers unless it's spoon-fed to them by UFC hype shows.

Here's a question for you: what's the biggest fight in lightweight history?

A clear contender is Melendez vs Aoki, when Aoki was a top ten pound-for-pound fighter, and Melendez absolutely crushed him, even hammering him from inside his guard, for five rounds. Utterly dominant display. He beat Guida 50-45 (in a split decision with cards reading 50-45, 48-47, 50-45, in what is still one of the most unbelievable cards I've ever seen in an MMA fight), he beat Thompson twice, and Thompson is an excellent fighter. Top five material on his best day.

[Hannibal]

tough sell on that comparison..
mousasi is overrated in my opinion
you really cant expect to compete with the elite if your wrestling is that weak. mousasi also shows limited fight IQ... its like he cant tell when he is losing a fight, wont abandon a losing strategy or doesnt show any urgency when down
i remember jardine giving mousasi a hell of a fight

i was one of the few that cashed on king mo when people thought mousasi was the uncrowned king

[MD]

tough sell on that comparison..
mousasi is overrated in my opinion
you really cant expect to compete with the elite if your wrestling is that weak. mousasi also shows limited fight IQ... its like he cant tell when he is losing a fight, wont abandon a losing strategy or doesnt show any urgency when down
i remember jardine giving mousasi a hell of a fight

i was one of the few that cashed on king mo when people thought mousasi was the uncrowned king

?? Jardine got pretty much dominated, I thought. Mousasi outstruck him something like 145 - 25. The reason that Mousasi is so hyped is because of what he can achieve and what he has achieved, his talent is unbelievable. He's a Jones/Weidman/Riddle-level talent.

Also, here's something interesting for people who don't know their MMA history. A pound-for-pound list from everyone's favourite and most reputable site, Sherdog, from 2007.

http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles/Fedor-Tops-Sherdogcom-PoundForPound-8670

"You won't find "El Niño" on many people's pound-for-pound lists, let alone third. The question is simple: Why not? Melendez is perhaps the only fighter you could name other than B.J. Penn(Pictures), who after achieving top three status in one division, jumped up a weight class to achieve the same stature in another. Melendez's wins over the likes of Hiroyuki Takaya (Pictures) andRumina Sato (Pictures) saw him emerge as a preeminent featherweight, but he was forced to move up in weight when then-Shooto world champion Alexandre Franca Nogueira (Pictures) did everything in his power to avoid fighting him. At 155, Melendez cemented himself as one of the division's best, emerging victorious in his slugfest with Tatsuya Kawajiri (Pictures) on New Year's Eve. While Melendez may not be the "third best fighter in the world," his resume boasts two divisions of top three credibility, which cannot be balked at."

He's achieved a lot in this sport.

[Hannibal]

he was supposed to beat down old man jardine
i havent seen the fight in years but i remember old man jardine, who is not even a fcking wrestler and his shit is so old it barely works, was able to take down moussasi multiple times, without too much difficulty
if mousasi is such a stud how come he couldnt put down jardine even after outlanding him 145-25

http://www.mmaweekly.com/strikeforce-diaz-vs-daley-play-by-play-gegard-mousasi-vs-keith-jardine

you have a bad read on this one,... mousasi is one of those guys that pride vs UFC newbs love to hype up
seriously... in what area is mousasi elite??
certainly not his wrestling
his grappling isnt particularly strong.... a few guys fell into his triangles
his gnp and control from back and mount is pretty good, but he only shows it off against bums that he could take down easily
so i guess most people claim his striking is elite... i dont see it

[Hannibal]

?? Jardine got pretty much dominated, I thought. Mousasi outstruck him something like 145 - 25. The reason that Mousasi is so hyped is because of what he can achieve and what he has achieved, his talent is unbelievable. He's a Jones/Weidman/Riddle-level talent.

is there another riddle that i dont know?

[MD]

he was supposed to beat down old man jardine
i havent seen the fight in years but i remember old man jardine, who is not even a fcking wrestler and his shit is so old it barely works, was able to take down moussasi multiple times, without too much difficulty
if mousasi is such a stud how come he couldnt put down jardine even after outlanding him 145-25

http://www.mmaweekly.com/strikeforce-diaz-vs-daley-play-by-play-gegard-mousasi-vs-keith-jardine

you have a bad read on this one,... mousasi is one of those guys that pride vs UFC newbs love to hype up
seriously... in what area is mousasi elite??
certainly not his wrestling
his grappling isnt particularly strong.... a few guys fell into his triangles
his gnp and control from back and mount is pretty good, but he only shows it off against bums that he could take down easily
so i guess most people claim his striking is elite... i dont see it

Personally, I gush over Mousasi's skills when he's on point. He's one of the most inconsistent fighters I've ever seen, somehow managing to get outstruck by Mike Kyle, but the fact of the matter is that when he's on his A-game, he's shown greatness in every area. He certainly showed strong wrestling in the St-Preux fight, OSP being a solid wrestler, and I think his striking and ground game have been on display often enough that there's no need to discuss them. Part of the reason I respect his skills so much is because I'm a striking fanatic and I consider it an area where I have a massive amount of expertise in comparison to the general MMA market. A self-proclaimed aficionado I suppose. In that area, Gegard is one of the fighters that interests me most. He's not necessarily one of the best strikers in MMA, but he's certainly one of the most interesting to observe.

is there another riddle that i dont know?

I feel like there's a pun in here somewhere.

[Hannibal]

you said he's a riddle-level talent
matt riddle is the only thing that pops into my head

"the fact of the matter is that when he's on his A-game, he's shown greatness in every area"

there are tons of fighters that show flashes of greatness here and there
you cant judge a fighter based on his A game, when he rarely brings his A game

the fact that you said "he is one of the most inconsistent fighters i've ever seen"...isnt that contradictory thinking if you are going to praise him as a jones like talent?? guys like jones and weidman show the goods...CONSISTENTLY
you see it in all their fights, you dont have to keep your eyes open for few moments you might actually see something brilliant

[MD]

you said he's a riddle-level talent
matt riddle is the only thing that pops into my head

"the fact of the matter is that when he's on his A-game, he's shown greatness in every area"

there are tons of fighters that show flashes of greatness here and there
you cant judge a fighter based on his A game, when he rarely brings his A game

the fact that you said "he is one of the most inconsistent fighters i've ever seen"...isnt that contradictory thinking if you are going to praise him as a jones like talent?? guys like jones and weidman show the goods...CONSISTENTLY
you see it in all their fights, you dont have to keep your eyes open for few moments you might actually see something brilliant

I know what you're referring to, I was making a joke (and my original mentioning of Riddle was also a joke).

I don't think that's contradictory, I can understand why it could diverge from your definition of "talent", though. Talent is a difficult thing to judge and it's something that I feel is widely misunderstood, but it's also very much a matter of opinion so it's difficult to tell anyone they're incorrect in their thinking. I don't think being lackluster and showing moments of greatness detracts at all from Mousasi's talent, but knowing how you define talent helps me understand why you believe him to be overrated. There's certainly a strong basis for thinking that.

[DeFactoCrippler]

md why the fock are you flooding the thread white knighting that -- Mousasi

[MD]

md why the fock are you flooding the thread white knighting that -- Mousasi

Stop crying. You're like my ex on her period. Just bitching and moaning all the time.

[Hannibal]

i know what it is about you that rubs people the wrong way..
you have this irritating smugness that borderlines pretentiousness

its how you claim you can decipher so much from so little, like a psychiatrist can make absurd claims about a person's psyche, having only had a brief discussion with them

you have no idea what my definition of talent is. Hell, i'd have to think for a second to put together a definition that works for me. but that was the point, right? you know more about me than i do about myself after only exchanging a few words

[DeFactoCrippler]

Stop crying. You're like my ex on her period. Just bitching and moaning all the time.

MD I was trying to be very patient with you.

Please stop ruining the thread. If you persist with this I will simply post a series of pics that are sure to get me banned because the forum ceases to be fun.

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[MD]

i know what it is about you that rubs people the wrong way..
you have this irritating smugness that borderlines pretentiousness

its how you claim you can decipher so much from so little, like a psychiatrist can make absurd claims about a person's psyche, having only had a brief discussion with them

you have no idea what my definition of talent is. Hell, i'd have to think for a second to put together a definition that works for me. but that was the point, right? you know more about me than i do about myself after only exchanging a few words

I think you're misunderstanding my post. I was saying that because I better understood how you define "talent" (from your example of Jones and Weidman being consistently brilliant rather than momentarily brilliant), I better understood your point than I did before. I was trying to say I had an easier time understanding your view point now. I wish you'd stop jumping down my throat at every opportunity and assuming I'm trying to be some sort of pompous ass, though. I was making a legitimate effort to understand your point without at any point saying or implying that your opinion was less informed or less relevant than mine. That's more consideration than you'll get from 90% of the internet.

[sideloaded]

i know what it is about you that rubs people the wrong way..
you have this irritating smugness that borderlines pretentiousness

its how you claim you can decipher so much from so little, like a psychiatrist can make absurd claims about a person's psyche, having only had a brief discussion with them

you have no idea what my definition of talent is. Hell, i'd have to think for a second to put together a definition that works for me. but that was the point, right? you know more about me than i do about myself after only exchanging a few words

This is called the MD charm

[MD]

MD I was trying to be very patient with you.

Please stop ruining the thread. If you persist with this I will simply post a series of pics that are sure to get me banned because the forum ceases to be fun.

If your fun is predicated on me not posting in your thread, that's as sad as it is childish. Anyway, like I said, feel free not to reply to me or read my posts.

[sideloaded]

MD I was trying to be very patient with you.

Please stop ruining the thread. If you persist with this I will simply post a series of pics that are sure to get me banned because the forum ceases to be fun.

jesus christ Dfc that jamaica vid you posted ran through my head all day, some distrusting shit

Especially because I see fatty white trash like that all day