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  • The Kraken
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 12-25-11
    • 28918

    #1
    SBR's business plan
    Sell, Sell, SELL!

    No banners for US players
    Increasing moderation
    Focus less on forum, more on line service and poker
    JJgold in Vegas

    John never had this vision when he first started SBR. At the time, he just wanted to have the best gambling related forum and cater to the offshore books, which he did very well for quite some time.

    His plan was a good one. He built a clientel of players/posters, charged them $200 a year to be a "pro" and then also got affiliate kickbacks on their play. In return, he gave out SBR points and offered merchandise from the store that could be purchased with points only. Over time, he found his niche. SBR became the biggest online gambling forum.

    All along, he was also getting money from offshore books for advertisement. So now, he's getting money from the players/posters ($200/year) and from the books (advertising, affiliate kickback) This is the part I've been most critical of over the years as it is clear there is a major conflict of interest in regards to what this site was supposed to offer, being an advocate for the player. Even though the 2012 SBR Bash Sponsor, BetIslands, ended up screwing over a lot of SBR "pros". In fact, this was an eye opener and wake up call for John. Now, not only were offshore books risky for players, they were now risky for him.

    But things changed elsewhere as well and John realized this. As the gaming industry landscape changed in the US, he realized he could potentially be sitting on his kids retirement if he played his cards right. Well, he's still playing his card and hoping things shake out a certain way.

    And when they do, SBR is sold. And it will be sold to a person or company that has then wealth to get John that Yacht he's always dreamed about

    What this means for the future of SBRforum? Probably not much. It seems to already have slimmed down quite a bit as they focus their resources elsewhere.
    I do however expect more and more posters will turn to alternatives such as TinyChat and Facebook Chat. I think SBR has failed to keep up with this trend, even though they have a chat room, with minimal effort it could be a much better one. But they limited who could use it and then over moderated it and ran the entire bunch away. A group that was almost exclusively pro and were responsible for quite a few site hits. This angle I don't understand.

    Congrats Johnny Boy Looks like you'll be sailing the seas in no time
  • soul786
    SBR MVP
    • 03-09-12
    • 1697

    #2
    Kraken is sharp
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    • Chi_archie
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 07-22-08
      • 63172

      #3
      I can't wait to see John riding that dinghy
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      • King Mayan
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 09-22-10
        • 21326

        #4
        Sbr's business plan is to pump pussy and iron.

        Oh wait thats my business plan..

        Sorry.
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        • stevenash
          Moderator
          • 01-17-11
          • 65641

          #5
          Originally posted by King Mayan
          Sbr's business plan is to pump pussy and iron.

          Oh wait thats my business plan..

          Sorry.
          Is business good?
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          • No coincidences
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 01-18-10
            • 76300

            #6
            I would like to see SBR's mission statement, and if the private one jives with the public version.
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            • milwaukee mike
              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
              • 08-22-07
              • 26914

              #7
              nice read, but a couple of corrections.
              betislands was the sponsor of the 2011 bash cookout in costa rica, not 2012 in vegas.
              posters were never really "charged" $200, a sportsbook deposit covered it, of which sbr got a kickback but not the whole 200.
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              • BigDeem5
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 02-26-11
                • 17191

                #8
                The sportsbook deposit of 200 was badass,

                That's when I joined up.

                Met some real cool posters on the way.

                Still some creeps and non gamblers


                However, would be cool if people on sbr payroll interacted more with posters other than the daily video.

                Cheers to John.
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                • hawley
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 05-10-10
                  • 14270

                  #9
                  Originally posted by No coincidences
                  I would like to see SBR's mission statement, and if the private one jives with the public version.



                  The two would have no resemblance.
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                  • RogueScholar
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 02-05-07
                    • 5082

                    #10
                    Not a bad hypothesis, Kraken, but you forgot one important part. John has no conscience, but he has a brain, and he's too smart to get on a watercraft that's registered to him. Do you know how easy it is to kill a man at sea?

                    Somebody with an axe to grind over BetIslands or having been fired a few days before the end of the year, thus getting screwed out of all their performance bonuses as an employee doesn't even have to meet up with him in open water, they rent a dive suit and rig the vessel to sink while it's underway, all from the safety of the harbor.

                    No sir. A private jet, maybe; a boat, no fukkin way.
                    Originally posted by StraitShooter
                    90% of the guys dont give a shit about your problems..and the other 10 are glad you have them..
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                    • spankie
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 02-10-11
                      • 9992

                      #11
                      Originally posted by King Mayan
                      Sbr's business plan is to pump hammies and dudes.

                      Oh wait thats my business plan..

                      Sorry.
                      fixed'r
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                      • ACoochy
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 08-19-09
                        • 13949

                        #12
                        SBR has become the online equivalent to North Korea, Syria and other 4th world backwater establishments when it comes to the trait of self expression.

                        Too bad the books hands are so deep in the companies pockets that ppl like Walker and Lou have simply become puppets.

                        Last month or so is proof of what happens when your business loses its integrity.
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                        • spankie
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 02-10-11
                          • 9992

                          #13
                          Not allowing US SBR Pros to renew via a sportsbook.

                          How will this effect overall renewal numbers?
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                          • DiggityDaggityDo
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 11-30-08
                            • 81450

                            #14
                            Originally posted by King Mayan
                            Sbr's business plan is to pump pussy and iron.

                            Oh wait thats my business plan..

                            Sorry.
                            Mayan, what about culos? Aren't we pumping culos???
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                            • El Nino
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 05-03-12
                              • 18426

                              #15
                              Originally posted by DiggityDaggityDo
                              Mayan, what about culos? Aren't we pumping culos???
                              This! Mayan, don't leave us hanging, guey. We need to know if we are in the culo pumping business or if we have migrated to pumping pussy. Import, Export or Importer/Exporter.
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                              • The Kraken
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 12-25-11
                                • 28918

                                #16
                                Rogue I miss seeing you post more regularly wish you would come back full time.

                                Wife's hounding me about dinner. Gotta run. Mheading down to brick towns Yucatan Taco Stand. Hoping to see d fish and brush against him as he walks by.
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                                • The Giant
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 01-21-12
                                  • 21480

                                  #17
                                  Interesting hypothesis. Would this explain why The MoneyShot is no longer allowed to post his scantily clad female friends?
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                                  • DiggityDaggityDo
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 11-30-08
                                    • 81450

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by The Giant
                                    Interesting hypothesis. Would this explain why The MoneyShot is no longer allowed to post his scantily clad female friends?
                                    Giant, do you think Dad would have gotten censored here as well if he was still posting?
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                                    • The Giant
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 01-21-12
                                      • 21480

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by DiggityDaggityDo
                                      Giant, do you think Dad would have gotten censored here as well if he was still posting?
                                      I don't know what the deal is.

                                      Dad seemed to post pictures of women off the net, and Money seems to be posting private pictures. Could that be the difference? I just don't understand why it's suddenly a problem.
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                                      • DiggityDaggityDo
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 11-30-08
                                        • 81450

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by The Giant
                                        I don't know what the deal is.

                                        Dad seemed to post pictures of women off the net, and Money seems to be posting private pictures. Could that be the difference? I just don't understand why it's suddenly a problem.
                                        Dad posted real life girls too:



                                        But they were not butthole naked like Money posts.
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                                        • The Kraken
                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                          • 12-25-11
                                          • 28918

                                          #21
                                          Did you guys see the butthole on that one girl? It was prolapsing girl has had that ass POUNDED
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                                          • Chi_archie
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 07-22-08
                                            • 63172

                                            #22
                                            wait, where are the butthole pics?
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                                            • opie1988
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 09-12-10
                                              • 23429

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by The Kraken
                                              Did you guys see the butthole on that one girl? It was prolapsing girl has had that ass POUNDED
                                              That was a chic??

                                              I was always under the impression that was Mayan's butthole.
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                                              • King Mayan
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 09-22-10
                                                • 21326

                                                #24
                                                Opie, my butthole is nice and tight.. Yours on the other hand is greatly asunder-ed..
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                                                • RogueScholar
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 02-05-07
                                                  • 5082

                                                  #25
                                                  I can vouch for Mayan's boypussy, it's not legendary tightness or anything, but it's above-average.
                                                  Originally posted by StraitShooter
                                                  90% of the guys dont give a shit about your problems..and the other 10 are glad you have them..
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                                                  • King Mayan
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 09-22-10
                                                    • 21326

                                                    #26
                                                    Thank you Rogue.. I knew you would vouch for me..
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                                                    • Big Bear
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 11-01-11
                                                      • 43253

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by BigDeem5
                                                      The sportsbook deposit of 200 was badass,

                                                      That's when I joined up.

                                                      Met some real cool posters on the way.

                                                      Still some creeps and non gamblers


                                                      However, would be cool if people on sbr payroll interacted more with posters other than the daily video.

                                                      Cheers to John.


                                                      give us a play deemer
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                                                      • Smoke
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 10-09-09
                                                        • 48111

                                                        #28
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                                                        • stevenash
                                                          Moderator
                                                          • 01-17-11
                                                          • 65641

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Big Bear


                                                          give us a play deemer
                                                          Bumps up 2 year old threads.
                                                          You really need a hobby.
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                                                          • gauchojake
                                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                            • 09-17-10
                                                            • 34116

                                                            #30
                                                            Reported
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                                                            • PAULYPOKER
                                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                              • 12-06-08
                                                              • 36581

                                                              #31
                                                              WTF!



                                                              Lol.......
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                                                              • The Kraken
                                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                • 12-25-11
                                                                • 28918

                                                                #32
                                                                Wow. What a bump.

                                                                Don't even remember writing that.

                                                                Does John still own SBR?

                                                                Man the Betislands fiasco sure changed the way mods and John interacted with the community
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                                                                • PAULYPOKER
                                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                  • 12-06-08
                                                                  • 36581

                                                                  #33
                                                                  There are currently 2520 users online. 712 members and 1808 guests
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