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  • d2bets
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    • 08-10-05
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    #1
    Check out 48 Hours on CBS starting shortly 9/8c...
    What if you had a crazy, messed up friend who implicated you in a murder you didn't commit? What if you spent all of your twenties behind bars because of it? What if you were still sitting behind bars with absolutely NO evidence against you, and a mountain of evidence that exonerated you? What if the appeals courts ignored the facts so they could protect the reputations of their peers? What would your life be like now? It would be like Ryan Ferguson's.

    This could happen to any of us. Watch this show. You won't believe how outrageous this case is. Frightening really.

  • InTheDrink
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    • 11-23-09
    • 23983

    #2
    d2bets whats your stake in this

    you post about this guey a lot

    might be innocent but he's far from the only gueye whos wrongly locked up
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    • milwaukee mike
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      • 08-22-07
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      #3
      Life isn't fair

      Great espn documentary "benji" about ben wilson, guy that was nothing more than an innocent bystander got 20 yrs in prison

      I always ask people if our country is full of such wonderful people compared to other countries, and we are so "free", then why are more americans locked up per capita than any other country in the free world?
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      • d2bets
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        #4
        Originally posted by milwaukee mike
        Life isn't fair

        Great espn documentary "benji" about ben wilson, guy that was nothing more than an innocent bystander got 20 yrs in prison

        I always ask people if our country is full of such wonderful people compared to other countries, and we are so "free", then why are more americans locked up per capita than any other country in the free world?
        Well, no doubt someone deserved to be locked up for life for this crime. They just locked up the wrong people and allowed the killer to walk free. And they refuse to admit their mistake.
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        • Footballtime
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          • 01-20-10
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          #5
          While few things are perfect, The american legal system is ****** in many ways..........Alot of times they get the right guy, but there are also many that are wrongly convicted or charges made up to get a conviction......
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          • InTheDrink
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            • 11-23-09
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            #6
            Originally posted by InTheDrink
            d2bets whats your stake in this
            d2bets answer the question gueye
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            • d2bets
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              #7
              Originally posted by InTheDrink
              d2bets answer the question gueye
              I got no personal stake. I've just been following the case for years and pretty much know every detail there is to know. I've read the trial transcripts, pleadings, news articles, etc. etc. His innocence isn't even debatable among those who are acquainted with the facts.

              Free Ryan Ferguson on Facebook has 2,000+ new likes in the past 25 minutes alone. Over 20k total.
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              • sickler
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                • 06-05-08
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                #8
                Originally posted by milwaukee mike
                Life isn't fair

                Great espn documentary "benji" about ben wilson, guy that was nothing more than an innocent bystander got 20 yrs in prison

                I always ask people if our country is full of such wonderful people compared to other countries, and we are so "free", then why are more americans locked up per capita than any other country in the free world?
                Too much freedom?
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                • MoneyLineDawg
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                  • 01-01-09
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                  #9
                  Can't believe not one judge or DA in Missouri along the way of these 13 appeals has had the balls to stand up and do the right thing.....They have to know that its complete BS but still go along with their friends in the "system" and keep the status quo.....That is the saddest/sickest part of all IMO

                  How do these fukks sleep at night?? Hopefully they all burn in hell.....
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                  • InTheDrink
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                    • 11-23-09
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by d2bets
                    I got no personal stake. I've just been following the case for years and pretty much know every detail there is to know. I've read the trial transcripts, pleadings, news articles, etc. etc. His innocence isn't even debatable among those who are acquainted with the facts.

                    Free Ryan Ferguson on Facebook has 2,000+ new likes in the past 25 minutes alone. Over 20k total.
                    i'd bet there are thousands of gueyes who are in the system who are just like him

                    of course i suppose most of them are probably black so who gives a fuk
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                    • d2bets
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by InTheDrink
                      i'd bet there are thousands of gueyes who are in the system who are just like him

                      of course i suppose most of them are probably black so who gives a fuk
                      I hear you. There are many. No doubt. But the circumstances of this case and everything that has happened is about as bizarre and sensational as it gets. This was a high profile case to start. Murder of the Columbia Trib sports editor was the highest profile crime in Columbia, MO (MIzzou) in more than 50 years. And now to have this happen. Just unreal.
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                      • ttwarrior1
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                        • 06-23-09
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                        #12
                        dang i missed it, is it over, need to watch rerun,

                        showing travolta now
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                        • ttwarrior1
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                          • 06-23-09
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                          #13
                          d2, do u care if i share this as my facebook status
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                          • d2bets
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by ttwarrior1
                            d2, do u care if i share this as my facebook status
                            Not at all. https://www.facebook.com/FreeRyanFerguson
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                            • minet123
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                              • 02-17-07
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                              #15
                              The American justice system has nothing to do with justice
                              It's about vengeance
                              Some one committed a crime and some one needs to pay so we feel vindicated
                              And never under estimate the size of the "Legal-industrial" complex...the best must be fed
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                              • Mitchell88
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                                • 12-16-12
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                                #16
                                D2bets thanks for the heads up on the show last night. It was really interesting with that whole interview, the sex offender who testified everything about that case is BS. That kid must be so discouraged, how do they hold up that conviction after all that? At least let him out while they re-investigate and give him a new trial with all the lies taken out and cant be entered. Amazing what one persons actions and lies can do to a life. feel horrible for Ryan and his family
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                                • The Giant
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                                  • 01-21-12
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                                  #17
                                  What's the deal here, D2? I watched the 48 hours episode, and it was obviously very pro-Ryan Ferguson. But the state must have some evidence to keep him locked up, don't they? I mean, from what we saw, they literally have nothing. No eyewitnesses, no physical evidence, nothing.

                                  I don't get it, something is amiss. How can they justifiably keep him behind bars, or at the very least, not be willing to give him a new trial?
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                                  • milwaukee mike
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                                    • 08-22-07
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by The Giant
                                    What's the deal here, D2? I watched the 48 hours episode, and it was obviously very pro-Ryan Ferguson. But the state must have some evidence to keep him locked up, don't they? I mean, from what we saw, they literally have nothing. No eyewitnesses, no physical evidence, nothing.

                                    I don't get it, something is amiss. How can they justifiably keep him behind bars, or at the very least, not be willing to give him a new trial?
                                    there's your key word, in this country the justice system doesn't provide justice (they protect the elite), the education system doesn't educate (they brainwash), and the health care system has every incentive to keep people sick.

                                    mark twain's essay "the damned human race" pretty much says it all
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                                    • milwaukee mike
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                                      • 08-22-07
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                                      #19
                                      just here in milwaukee, a major case laurie bembenek. it was proven that the milwaukee police department planted all the evidence, the witnesses said it wasn't her and they were forced to testify that it was, etc etc and she still couldn't get a retrial.

                                      10 years in prison for a crime she didn't commit, then comes out an alcoholic and dies at the age of 52, sad.
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                                      • Wulfman14
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                                        • 08-24-10
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                                        #20
                                        mike is correct the US has the highest percentage of theie population incarcerated than any other country in the world. you must not ignore the fact though that a lot of these countries are not governed by as many laws as america and are a chaotic mess. but still there is europe, canada, australia, japan, south korea, even the BRIC countries are constantly revising their laws to produce law and order.

                                        you feel for guys like this , especially what they go through inside the prisons. a few years ago there was also the long island boy who was wrongly incarcerated on charges of killing his parents . its messed up but giant is right there has to be somethng (as little as it may be) that must be leading them to hold him.
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                                        • Wulfman14
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                                          • 08-24-10
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by milwaukee mike
                                          just here in milwaukee, a major case laurie bembenek. it was proven that the milwaukee police department planted all the evidence, the witnesses said it wasn't her and they were forced to testify that it was, etc etc and she still couldn't get a retrial.

                                          10 years in prison for a crime she didn't commit, then comes out an alcoholic and dies at the age of 52, sad.

                                          why would the police do that ? i guess the only reason would be to get credit for solving a major case. no wonder they call them "pigs"
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                                          • milwaukee mike
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                                            • 08-22-07
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                                            #22
                                            ^^in "bambi" bembenek's case they did it because she was suing the police department for sexual harassment and wrongful firing, and accusing them of corruption. So of course they proved her right by framing her lol
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                                            • d2bets
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                                              • 08-10-05
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by The Giant
                                              What's the deal here, D2? I watched the 48 hours episode, and it was obviously very pro-Ryan Ferguson. But the state must have some evidence to keep him locked up, don't they? I mean, from what we saw, they literally have nothing. No eyewitnesses, no physical evidence, nothing.

                                              I don't get it, something is amiss. How can they justifiably keep him behind bars, or at the very least, not be willing to give him a new trial?
                                              Nope. They got nothing. In fact, the full extent of the facts are even more pro-Ryan Ferguson than 48 Hours could convey, They didn't even get into all of the coercion by the police and prosecutors, all the prosecutorial misconduct, etc. It's stunning. As they said, the entire case at trial was Erickson's testimony and the ID from Trump. Never was anything else at all. You might have noticed the pieces of interview with the decedent's colleague, Michael Boyd...the last guy that saw him. Those in the know are now fairly certain he did the deed. Here is Ryan's latest appeal. It's riveting. To read about the evidence against Boyd, check out pp. 53-62. Makes the hair on your neck stand up.

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                                              • d2bets
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Wulfman14
                                                why would the police do that ? i guess the only reason would be to get credit for solving a major case. no wonder they call them "pigs"
                                                That's exactly it. This was the biggest murder case in Mizzou country in over 50 years. They had guys "working" on it full time for 2+ years. Problem is they approached the case with poor tunnel vision. Fast forward 2.5 years and they've got they get this tip that fits their tunnel vision that a kid says he was involved. With stars in their eyes they don't bother to really find out whether it might be a false "confession", instead they do everything possible to force out a confession. They spoonfed him the facts (instead of having him they tell them), they lie to him saying Ferguson is implicating him, they lie about other witnesses and on and on. And the kid they are coercing was a hardcore druggie who had actually blacked out that night (coke, adderral and alcohol) and had no clue about anything. So they were able to fill his mind with "memories". It's like the perfect storm. Truth is stranger than fiction.
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                                                • Wulfman14
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                                                  • 08-24-10
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by d2bets
                                                  That's exactly it. This was the biggest murder case in Mizzou country in over 50 years. They had guys "working" on it full time for 2+ years. Problem is they approached the case with poor tunnel vision. Fast forward 2.5 years and they've got they get this tip that fits their tunnel vision that a kid says he was involved. With stars in their eyes they don't bother to really find out whether it might be a false "confession", instead they do everything possible to force out a confession. They spoonfed him the facts (instead of having him they tell them), they lie to him saying Ferguson is implicating him, they lie about other witnesses and on and on. And the kid they are coercing was a hardcore druggie who had actually blacked out that night (coke, adderral and alcohol) and had no clue about anything. So they were able to fill his mind with "memories". It's like the perfect storm. Truth is stranger than fiction.
                                                  its unreal. ask for a lawyer and refuse to say anything to these bastards. obviouslly this kid was an exception cuz he was doped up but these pigs will manipulate and confuse you into a confession. i have had experience with good policeman and bad ones. in a bar fight i was just a bystander and when the cops came they took us all to the precint . one actually told me and i quote "you are going to jail for assault, for a long time believe you me" . big fat mother fukker. i said i didn't do anything these were people i know that got into it. i was trying to break it up because i didn't want my friend to get hurt. of course he was like effeminate opie or overcompensating homo william walters and targeted me cuz im indian. i just told him i want my phone call. called my parents, they called a family friend jewish lawyer and i was released within a couple of hours.
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                                                  • ttwarrior1
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                                                    • 06-23-09
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                                                    #26
                                                    read something about if the prosecutor won the case he would become a judge and did.
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                                                    • d2bets
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by ttwarrior1
                                                      read something about if the prosecutor won the case he would become a judge and did.
                                                      Not only did he become a judge, within a year after the trial he took over seat that had been held by the judge that presided over this trial.
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                                                      • The Kraken
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                                                        • 12-25-11
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                                                        #28
                                                        The sad thing is that our justice system is setup to avoid this exact scenario by presuming innocence until found guilty beyond any reasonable doubts. It's supposed to protect the innocent more than to implicate the criminal. It's worse to hold an innocent man in prison than it is to let a guilty man walk. Yet it fails time and time again.
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                                                        • d2bets
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                                                          #29
                                                          Ryan Ferguson finally won his appeal today. Finally!
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                                                          • ParlayininHTown
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                                                            • 06-27-10
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by d2bets
                                                            Ryan Ferguson finally won his appeal today. Finally!


                                                            Took them long enough ...
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                                                            • The Kraken
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                                                              • 12-25-11
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by d2bets
                                                              Ryan Ferguson finally won his appeal today. Finally!
                                                              Congrats, Ryan! Will you still be posting on SBR?
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                                                              • Ghenghis Kahn
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                                                                • 01-02-12
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                                                                #32
                                                                i'm happy for this guy. can you imagine losing the most important decade of your life? poor guy...


                                                                Originally posted by The Kraken
                                                                Congrats, Ryan! Will you still be posting on SBR?
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                                                                • d2bets
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Today the State of Missouri dropped all appeals and Ryan Ferguson will be released today.
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                                                                  • tto827
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                                                                    • 10-01-12
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Good thing he's getting out, wonder if he is going to keep pushing and go for some serious cash for wrongful incarceration.

                                                                    On a side note, great novel where a situation like this gets flipped on its head...​ The Racketeer by John Grisham.
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                                                                    • d2bets
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by tto827
                                                                      Good thing he's getting out, wonder if he is going to keep pushing and go for some serious cash for wrongful incarceration.

                                                                      On a side note, great novel where a situation like this gets flipped on its head...​ The Racketeer by John Grisham.
                                                                      I am sure he will. I sure hope so. Make em bleed.
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