Firefighters shot and killed in New York while responding to a fire.

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  • Kermit
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 09-27-10
    • 32555

    #1
    Firefighters shot and killed in New York while responding to a fire.
    WTF is wrong with people? Apparently they have no idea who the shooter(s) even is.
  • chargers4222
    SBR MVP
    • 01-16-10
    • 4702

    #2
    live about 20 miles from Webster, saw it break on our local news literally as soon as i woke up and the first thing i said was "this is going to be national". go on Yahoo! and they already had more info on it than our local news. Webster is a really rich area and that neighborhood is right on the water so i'm not sure why the news keeps reporting it as a "middle class area", but pretty sad none the less
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    • chargers4222
      SBR MVP
      • 01-16-10
      • 4702

      #3
      by the way he spent 17 years in prison. for BEATING HIS GRANDMOTHER TO DEATH WITH A penetrating HAMMER
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      • The Kraken
        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
        • 12-25-11
        • 28918

        #4
        Another AR15
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        • gregm
          SBR MVP
          • 03-14-11
          • 3535

          #5
          Originally posted by chargers4222
          by the way he spent 17 years in prison. for BEATING HIS GRANDMOTHER TO DEATH WITH A penetrating HAMMER
          Good post.

          17 years? Lets just put this guy back out on the street, he only beat his 92 year old grandmother to death with a hammer. His 17 years in prison must have certainly reformed him enough to put him back in the populace with the fantastic job our prison system does of reforming criminals. What kind of judge signs off on a guy being released into the population after only 17 years for killing his own 92 year old grandmother with a hammer? What kind of judicial system ever allows a guy like this back into the population?? These people in the judicial system need to be held responsible for their idiocy.

          People can debate bans on assault rifles, but lets also look at a sick justice system that allows a guy like this back into the population.

          From a Rochester paper about his crime



          "During a news conference Monday afternoon, Monroe County District Attorney Sandra Doorley said Spengler was released from prison in 1998 and was under parole supervision until 2006.

          Spengler was an unwilling participant in his parole hearings, according to transcripts of a proceeding from October 1997. During that hearing, Spengler said he only attended because he believed it was mandatory. When he was told it was not, he responded: “Okay. Then it’s not worth the time and effort.”

          His parole was denied at that time. “While we continue to note your positive disciplinary programming as an inmate, the extreme serious nature of your crime, the brutal beating of a 92-year-old grandmother with a hammer continues to militate against discretionary release,” the board wrote in its decision.

          Spengler killed his grandmother on July 18, 1980.

          Initially, Spengler told family members that he had found his legally blind grandmother’s body at the bottom of her basement stairs, where he said she had landed after an accidental fall.

          But an autopsy revealed she had been beaten to death.

          He later confessed to police that he had struck her in the head multiple times during an argument about her going into the basement that started because he was worried that she’d hurt herself down there. He then staged her body on the stairs and threw the hammer in Lake Ontario."
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