Should a Person/Company get wealthy treating the sick & injured ?

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  • Sam Odom
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 10-30-05
    • 58063

    #1
    Should a Person/Company get wealthy treating the sick & injured ?
    Doctors , Nurses , Healthcare Industry and the like...
  • Jimmy0607
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 04-09-09
    • 7785

    #2
    Scammers
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    • Sam Odom
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 10-30-05
      • 58063

      #3
      Originally posted by Jimmy0607

      Scammers

      that's a NO ?
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      • tto827
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 10-01-12
        • 9078

        #4
        Originally posted by Sam Odom
        Doctors , Nurses , Healthcare Industry and the like...
        YES! We need the best and brightest individuals going into the medical field. How else do you propose we get them there besides offering high salaries? At the same time, corporations should cut into their profits some, some OTC costs $8, basically the same stuff but with a prescription can cost upwards of $250 without insurance.
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        • borednaz
          SBR MVP
          • 08-28-10
          • 3809

          #5
          As a guy whose wife was a Nurse at a "Home" for the elderly I simply must say Yes. But it needs to be reversed the poor people (like my wife) whom provide the care get very little compensation especially in regards to their duties. Tell me Odom do you think it unreasonable to want to be paid well to clean off shit from an Old person?

          Do your parents/grandparents not deserve a caring person whose paid for a task you would never do? As far as big corporations & hospitals. NO. Those are huge scams that provide very little care and are often incompetent
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          • Sam Odom
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 10-30-05
            • 58063

            #6
            Boys , this is an open Question...

            Sammy believes this will be a major issue/question in the next 2 yrs

            BTW- Sammy's wife is a RN
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            • PAULYPOKER
              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
              • 12-06-08
              • 36581

              #7
              The medical professionals in the medical industry actually providing quality care and research? Yes........


              Insurance/pharmaceutical companies who's main goal is profit instead of care? Never........
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              • borednaz
                SBR MVP
                • 08-28-10
                • 3809

                #8
                Originally posted by Sam Odom
                Boy , this is an open Question...

                Sammy believes this will be a major issue/question in the next 2 yrs

                BTW- Sammy's wife is a RN
                So then you understand where I'm coming from Sammy. The Nurses are often the most trained people on Staff and do the most work for the least amount of pay. It's thankless, but they don't do it for the rewards.
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                • Sam Odom
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 10-30-05
                  • 58063

                  #9
                  Originally posted by PAULYPOKER

                  ...pharmaceutical companies who's main goal is profit instead of care? Never........

                  How would that affect cutting edge research and new meds ?
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                  • Sam Odom
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 10-30-05
                    • 58063

                    #10
                    Originally posted by borednaz

                    The Nurses are often the most trained people on Staff and do the most work for the least amount of pay.

                    Not the lease amount $$$ , not for RNs in Cali anyhow ... but they do do most of the 'doctoring'
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                    • borednaz
                      SBR MVP
                      • 08-28-10
                      • 3809

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Sam Odom
                      Not the lease amount $$$ , not for RNs in Cali anyhow ... but they do do most of the 'doctoring'
                      Here in Arizona RN's, LPNs are extremely under paid. Do you know the average salary offering here for a RN is 36k. That's hospital ER not care center or normal care. LPN's start at 24-28k.
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                      • Sam Odom
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 10-30-05
                        • 58063

                        #12
                        Wow

                        In San Diego RN = 75-85K
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                        • PAULYPOKER
                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                          • 12-06-08
                          • 36581

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Sam Odom


                          How would that affect cutting edge research and new meds ?
                          When profit is your only goal, you have what we have now, tons of worthless medication that only masks the underlying causes which are nothing more than "placebo effect" in most cases, the "placebo effect" from the market point of view is designed to make huge profits while keeping the patient sick instead of finding an actual cure.....


                          Keeping people sick is big business and business is good......

                          It is what it is............
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                          • borednaz
                            SBR MVP
                            • 08-28-10
                            • 3809

                            #14
                            Hmm. Cost of living in San Diego is more, but If we factored in cost of living we'd still be averaging about 60k in comparison.
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                            • guitarjosh
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 12-25-07
                              • 5797

                              #15
                              Fine with me
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                              • v1y
                                SBR MVP
                                • 05-02-11
                                • 1138

                                #16
                                Should anybody be paid more than those who devote their lives to improving the health of our species?
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                                • stikymess
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 05-19-10
                                  • 3288

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by borednaz
                                  Here in Arizona RN's, LPNs are extremely under paid. Do you know the average salary offering here for a RN is 36k. That's hospital ER not care center or normal care. LPN's start at 24-28k.
                                  Time for bored and mrs bored to shop her services man, wages have always been bad here in Arizona. Years ago I knew some nurses at Banner that were recruited and moved to Seattle for more money.
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                                  • stikymess
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 05-19-10
                                    • 3288

                                    #18
                                    As for the pharmaceutical companies for every drug they get approved there are about 12-15 drugs that never see the light of day. they eat that cost, so when they do get a home run they jam the price up to make up for the R & D for the failed drugs. Plus they have a drug patent that will only be for about 8-10 years, then the generics can come to market.

                                    With that said I'm okay with them making a profit but no way should it been in the billions.

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                                    • billyloco
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 04-07-06
                                      • 1411

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by borednaz
                                      Here in Arizona RN's, LPNs are extremely under paid. Do you know the average salary offering here for a RN is 36k. That's hospital ER not care center or normal care. LPN's start at 24-28k.
                                      WOW!...I just called a older RN (Emergency Care Travel) friend if my wifes in Phoenix and she verified
                                      that she has a neighbor whose daughter just became a RN in a childrens hospital in Phoenix and
                                      was hired in at $37,200 with a promised raise in 6 months to $40,200. Anne said if she actually gets that raise before a year she would be suprised. She makes $66,000 and does M-F .. but has worked Sat & Sun for some home health companies.
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                                      • InTheDrink
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 11-23-09
                                        • 23983

                                        #20
                                        i like the part where you lump nurses together with doctors

                                        pretty similar skill/education/intelligence levels wouldn't you say?
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                                        • CarpeDime
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 09-01-09
                                          • 7873

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Sam Odom
                                          Doctors , Nurses , Healthcare Industry and the like...
                                          yes of course, but a person/company should NOT get wealthy from knowingly or intentionally harming someone or some people, directly or indirectly

                                          which is why stealing is wrong, for instance. The fact that a thief benefits financially from stealing is not a justification for stealing being ok.

                                          that is never the case with individual doctors and nurses

                                          it is often the case with drug companies, hospital corporations, and insurance companies
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