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  • RoyBacon
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    • 09-21-05
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    #1
    Dante or other libs - I have a serious question
    Dante, and other libs(including chico), would you answer a question honestly?

    How would you get this economy growing at 4%+?

    We banter often but I've never seen a single idea from you in all these years to make the American Dream possible. The American Dream of hard work to get ahead dies at near zero growth. The working class suffers a generation of flat wages because their is no competition for their services.

    So educate me. I ask in all respect. What is the liberal recipe for growing the economy 4%+ and reviving the American Dream?
  • dlowilly
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    • 11-09-16
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    #2
    U make a mistake assuming they want those things
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    • jtoler
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      #3
      If there is no competition for services how does one suffer for a generation from "flat wages".
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      • khicks26
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        • 09-16-06
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        #4
        Originally posted by RoyBacon
        Dante, and other libs(including chico), would you answer a question honestly?

        How would you get this economy growing at 4%+?

        We banter often but I've never seen a single idea from you in all these years to make the American Dream possible. The American Dream of hard work to get ahead dies at near zero growth. The working class suffers a generation of flat wages because their is no competition for their services.

        So educate me. I ask in all respect. What is the liberal recipe for growing the economy 4%+ and reviving the American Dream?
        Do we live in an infinite world? Answer this, then rethink your question about growth.
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        • khicks26
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          • 09-16-06
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          #5
          Originally posted by jtoler
          If there is no competition for services how does one suffer for a generation from "flat wages".
          monopoly & so called free trade deals that moved US capital overseas for cheap labor.
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          • khicks26
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            • 09-16-06
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            #6
            Originally posted by dlowilly
            U make a mistake assuming they want those things
            You make the mistake that an economic system can grow forever. Marshmallow Boy. looks like you failed the test.
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            • jtoler
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              #7
              Originally posted by khicks26
              monopoly & so called free trade deals that moved US capital overseas for cheap labor.
              Isnt that considered competition.
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              • khicks26
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                • 09-16-06
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                #8
                Originally posted by jtoler
                Isnt that considered competition.
                Free Trade, monopoly, or the movement of capital?
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                • jtoler
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                  • 12-17-13
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by khicks26
                  Free Trade, monopoly, or the movement of capital?
                  Free Trade can be competition, monopoly definitely sounds like competition. Teach me though khicks, when Brooks enters the thread he'll say one guy is talking to himself.
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                  • khicks26
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                    • 09-16-06
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by jtoler
                    Free Trade can be competition, monopoly definitely sounds like competition.
                    Free Trade Yes, but not the way the US did it. Real Free Trade does not move the capital that produces the goods overseas for cheaper labor. Kind a like cutting your own throat. Monopoly is not having any competition & owning everything.
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                    • khicks26
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                      • 09-16-06
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by jtoler
                      Free Trade can be competition, monopoly definitely sounds like competition. Teach me though khicks, when Brooks enters the thread he'll say one guy is talking to himself.
                      lol
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                      • jtoler
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by khicks26
                        Free Trade Yes, but not the way the US did it. Real Free Trade does not move the capital that produces the goods overseas for cheaper labor. Kind a like cutting your own throat. Monopoly is not having any competition & owning everything.
                        Im confused by Bacon boy's statement then. I see clearly what youre saying.
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                        • khicks26
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                          • 09-16-06
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by jtoler
                          Im confused by Bacon boy's statement then. I see clearly what youre saying.
                          First he makes the mistake that an economic system can grow forever, & resources are unlimited. He also doesn't understand that the US, its corporations & its bloated military which none of them want to pay the tax's for. Goes around the world stealing other nations resource wealth. What he would call American exceptionalism. What you & me would call the military industrial complex.

                          He also makes the mistake that the US corporations (which are multinational) gives a shit about the American people or its economy. Also the fact that they own most of the politicians & control the government. They make the laws that favor them, not what is good for growth or competition.
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                          • brooks85
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                            • 01-05-09
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                            #14
                            ^lol reading this moron post incorrect information to himself is hilarious. Thank you.

                            Originally posted by khicks26
                            monopoly & so called free trade deals that moved US capital overseas for cheap labor.
                            liberal agenda at work and you support it. That is exactly why you are laughed at on this forum.
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                            • dante1
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                              • 10-31-05
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                              #15
                              first many economists say 4% growth is now very hard to achieve. As K pointed out economies even the best can not grow forever. It is cyclical. Also economics is not an exact science, so we have different points of view. But, we do know that trickle down doesn't work and we will probably find out that dynamic scoring isn't going to work either.

                              the R base their economic outcomes on what they think or hope will happen. and it almost always does not.
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                              • khicks26
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                                • 09-16-06
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                                #16
                                Funny how they say under Trump the stock market is doing great. Yeah well 5% of the US population owns most of the stock, & the stock market or fire sector has nothing to do with the real economy of production & consumption.
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                                • dante1
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                                  • 10-31-05
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                                  #17
                                  also you must remember that GDP is only one measurement of the economic health of a country. what might be even more important to consumers and Americans is how much of the total GDP translates into their pocketbook. What good is a high GDP if tens of thousands of Americans go to bed hungry, or are missing out on the American dream.
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                                  • khicks26
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                                    • 09-16-06
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by brooks85
                                    ^lol reading this moron post incorrect information to himself is hilarious. Thank you.



                                    liberal agenda at work and you support it. That is exactly why you are laughed at on this forum.
                                    Hey speak of the weasel. Didn't counter any of the points I made, called me names & said liberal.



                                    If I dumb down the debate I can win. Nobody is as stupid as me.
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                                    • brooks85
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                                      • 01-05-09
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by khicks26
                                      Funny how they say under Trump the stock market is doing great. Yeah well 5% of the US population owns most of the stock, & the stock market or fire sector has nothing to do with the real economy of production & consumption.
                                      liar


                                      but you're youtubeU educated so you have no idea how to do math.
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                                      • brooks85
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                                        • 01-05-09
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by khicks26
                                        Hey speak of the weasel. Didn't counter any of the points I made, called me names & said liberal.



                                        If I dumb down the debate I can win. Nobody is as stupid as me.
                                        you didn;t make any points other than prove you have no idea what you're talking about. You also proved you're a hypocrite.

                                        Did youtubeU teach you that whatever you say must be address?

                                        That's not how it works in the real world. You have to say something intelligent first. Saying something that stupid kids say in middle school isn't going to get you any respect.
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                                        • brooks85
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                                          • 01-05-09
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by khicks26
                                          Free Trade Yes, but not the way the US did it. Real Free Trade does not move the capital that produces the goods overseas for cheaper labor. Kind a like cutting your own throat. Monopoly is not having any competition & owning everything.
                                          for example, this is stupid and you will not find ANYONE who teaches this except liberal idiots which is exactly where you copied it from; youtube.



                                          you're the same clown who can't even find a definition for a word and you think you understand economics...
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                                          • khicks26
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                                            • 09-16-06
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by dante1
                                            first many economists say 4% growth is now very hard to achieve. As K pointed out economies even the best can not grow forever. It is cyclical. Also economics is not an exact science, so we have different points of view. But, we do know that trickle down doesn't work and we will probably find out that dynamic scoring isn't going to work either.

                                            the R base their economic outcomes on what they think or hope will happen. and it almost always does not.
                                            Yes they keep selling the trickle down lie. Hasn't worked yet, not even for Reagan.

                                            But you have to know that its both parties & they have the same NeoLiberal agenda. With Trump in office its a Hyper Neoliberal agenda, nationalism & in some cases out right fascism.

                                            But with either party mostly owed by wealthy people. The goal is the same.
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                                            • brooks85
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                                              • 01-05-09
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by khicks26
                                              Yes they keep selling the trickle down lie. Hasn't worked yet, not even for Reagan.

                                              But you have to know that its both parties & they have the same NeoLiberal agenda. With Trump in office its a Hyper Neoliberal agenda, nationalism & in some cases out right fascism.

                                              But with either party mostly owed by wealthy people. The goal is the same.
                                              lol leave it to a liar to keep lying. What you just said is no different than saying gravity doesn't exists. Do you ever wonder why everyone laughs at you on this forum except other idiots? This is the reason.

                                              Both parties have gone liberal since FDR you moron... that is a known fact in economics but you wouldn't know because they don't teach economics at youtubeU. Hilarious when you use words you don't understand.
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                                              • dante1
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                                                • 10-31-05
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by khicks26
                                                Yes they keep selling the trickle down lie. Hasn't worked yet, not even for Reagan.

                                                But you have to know that its both parties & they have the same NeoLiberal agenda. With Trump in office its a Hyper Neoliberal agenda, nationalism & in some cases out right fascism.

                                                But with either party mostly owed by wealthy people. The goal is the same.


                                                when it comes down to a choice of bad, I will select the D bad.

                                                just reading about this abortion that passed in the house, I just don't get it. they attached the ACA again to it.
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                                                • khicks26
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                                                  • 09-16-06
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by brooks85
                                                  liar


                                                  but you're youtubeU educated so you have no idea how to do math.
                                                  Originally posted by brooks85
                                                  you didn;t make any points other than prove you have no idea what you're talking about. You also proved you're a hypocrite.

                                                  Did youtubeU teach you that whatever you say must be address?

                                                  That's not how it works in the real world. You have to say something intelligent first. Saying something that stupid kids say in middle school isn't going to get you any respect.
                                                  Originally posted by brooks85
                                                  for example, this is stupid and you will not find ANYONE who teaches this except liberal idiots which is exactly where you copied it from; youtube.



                                                  you're the same clown who can't even find a definition for a word and you think you understand economics...
                                                  All of this is fact less opinion & BS. Your making yourself look like a fool.



                                                  If I dumb down the debate I can win. Nobody is as stupid as me.
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                                                  • khicks26
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                                                    • 09-16-06
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by brooks85
                                                    lol leave it to a liar to keep lying. What you just said is no different than saying gravity doesn't exists. Do you ever wonder why everyone laughs at you on this forum except other idiots? This is the reason.

                                                    Both parties have gone liberal since FDR you moron... that is a known fact in economics but you wouldn't know because they don't teach economics at youtubeU. Hilarious when you use words you don't understand.
                                                    LOL
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                                                    • khicks26
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                                                      • 09-16-06
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by dante1
                                                      when it comes down to a choice of bad, I will select the D bad.

                                                      just reading about this abortion that passed in the house, I just don't get it. they attached the ACA again to it.
                                                      Yes Rep's are more open & will fuk you harder. But in the end the goal is the same.
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                                                      • brooks85
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                                                        • 01-05-09
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by khicks26
                                                        LOL
                                                        excellent non-response to being proven a liar, again!

                                                        clockwork khicks


                                                        "But you have to know that its both parties & they have the same NeoLiberal agenda."

                                                        hilarious reading the nonsense your pysche NEEDS to be true but never is. That is called a trend you rookie.
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                                                        • dante1
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                                                          #29
                                                          I can see the idiots posts when you quote him. the irony is he and dwightie are laughed at the most.


                                                          his replies are constantly lies or BS. he is good at insults but not so good with facts. Brooks I almost feel like taking you off ignore so I can quiz you on easy crap again. Prove again the real idiot you are. You talk a ton of shit but your actual posts lack any substance at all.
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                                                          • khicks26
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                                                            • 09-16-06
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by brooks85
                                                            lol leave it to a liar to keep lying. What you just said is no different than saying gravity doesn't exists. Do you ever wonder why everyone laughs at you on this forum except other idiots? This is the reason.

                                                            Both parties have gone liberal since FDR you moron... that is a known fact in economics but you wouldn't know because they don't teach economics at youtubeU. Hilarious when you use words you don't understand.
                                                            Brooks still buying my BS.

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                                                            • brooks85
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                                                              • 01-05-09
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                                                              #31
                                                              excellent non-response to being proven a liar, again!

                                                              clockwork khicks


                                                              "But you have to know that its both parties & they have the same NeoLiberal agenda."

                                                              hilarious reading the nonsense your pysche NEEDS to be true but never is. That is called a trend you rookie.
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                                                              • khicks26
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                                                                • 09-16-06
                                                                • 45632

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by brooks85
                                                                excellent non-response to being proven a liar, again!

                                                                clockwork khicks


                                                                "But you have to know that its both parties & they have the same NeoLiberal agenda."

                                                                hilarious reading the nonsense your pysche NEEDS to be true but never is. That is called a trend you rookie.


                                                                If I dumb down the debate I can win. Nobody is as stupid as me.
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                                                                • brooks85
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                                                                  • 01-05-09
                                                                  • 44709

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by dante1
                                                                  I can see the idiots posts when you quote him. the irony is he and dwightie are laughed at the most.


                                                                  his replies are constantly lies or BS. he is good at insults but not so good with facts. Brooks I almost feel like taking you off ignore so I can quiz you on easy crap again. Prove again the real idiot you are. You talk a ton of shit but your actual posts lack any substance at all.
                                                                  better not, how are you going to kill yourself... twice?
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                                                                  • brooks85
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by khicks26


                                                                    If I dumb down the debate I can win. Nobody is as stupid as me.
                                                                    lol desperate alice is how... truly hilarious how you say dumb down the debate AFTER saying this;



                                                                    "But you have to know that its both parties & they have the same NeoLiberal agenda."



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                                                                    • khicks26
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                                                                      • 09-16-06
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by dante1
                                                                      I can see the idiots posts when you quote him. the irony is he and dwightie are laughed at the most.


                                                                      his replies are constantly lies or BS. he is good at insults but not so good with facts. Brooks I almost feel like taking you off ignore so I can quiz you on easy crap again. Prove again the real idiot you are. You talk a ton of shit but your actual posts lack any substance at all.
                                                                      He's really not that good with insults, & not even good at being a troll.
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