AK question.................

Kaladarus · 03-02-11, 07:21 PM

More info is needed. You say you're short stacked, but you don't say how much it's going to cost you to call the all in. Also do you have any info on the player?

JW Cash · 03-02-11, 07:31 PM

Originally posted by Kaladarus

More info is needed. You say you're short stacked, but you don't say how much it's going to cost you to call the all in. Also do you have any info on the player?

No info on the player........I had 35 big blinds which I guess would be a medium
stack.....he had about 70.......

I am thinking no way I should have called HIS all in.....with just Ace high....

If I had KK QQ or even JJ ...it would have been a better all in decision.....

Fieldysnuts44 · 03-02-11, 07:39 PM

Yeah with info given,i definefitely would have put him on medium pair 9's-JJs and folded.He had small pair and was trying to set mine but if he was playing decent TAG poker you should have laid that one down.I would put it in his notes.

wiffle · 03-02-11, 07:53 PM

Originally posted by JW Cash

micro NL on PS

instacall

Kaladarus · 03-02-11, 07:57 PM

I agree, I think a fold would be best here without knowing your opponent well. The main problem I have with the way you played the hand is the pot sized bet on the flop. I think you would have been better off raising half the pot or 2/3 the pot. This way you can get away from the hand easier. Without knowing your opponent it's hard to think you're ahead with such a significant re raise. Many times smaller pocket pairs will re raise here to protect their hands. If you are behind you only have 6 outs, which means you got about 24% chance to hit. Also if the board pairs on the turn and river for a higher pair than his hand. Considering you still have 2/3 of your stack back I don't think it's worth the call without having some info on the player.

wiffle · 03-02-11, 08:00 PM

it sounds like by calling you are risking 20 to win 73 which is about what you need against 33-qq. he could be doing this with an ace or random air because its teh microz. you also win with a 2 against pps.

JW Cash · 03-02-11, 08:21 PM

Originally posted by Kaladarus

I agree, I think a fold would be best here without knowing your opponent well. The main problem I have with the way you played the hand is the pot sized bet on the flop. I think you would have been better off raising half the pot or 2/3 the pot. This way you can get away from the hand easier. Without knowing your opponent it's hard to think you're ahead with such a significant re raise. Many times smaller pocket pairs will re raise here to protect their hands. If you are behind you only have 6 outs, which means you got about 24% chance to hit. Also if the board pairs on the turn and river for a higher pair than his hand. Considering you still have 2/3 of your stack back I don't think it's worth the call without having some info on the player.

You make good sense.......I just felt I was behind when he instacalled the all in....

Live and learn.......I usually just bet 2/3 the pot...but with only AK I guess I was
trying for a bigger raise to get him to lay his hand down........

Thanks.....

JW Cash · 03-02-11, 08:26 PM

Originally posted by Kaladarus

I agree, I think a fold would be best here without knowing your opponent well. The main problem I have with the way you played the hand is the pot sized bet on the flop. I think you would have been better off raising half the pot or 2/3 the pot. This way you can get away from the hand easier. Without knowing your opponent it's hard to think you're ahead with such a significant re raise. Many times smaller pocket pairs will re raise here to protect their hands. If you are behind you only have 6 outs, which means you got about 24% chance to hit. Also if the board pairs on the turn and river for a higher pair than his hand. Considering you still have 2/3 of your stack back I don't think it's worth the call without having some info on the player.

double post...............

JW Cash · 03-02-11, 08:29 PM

Originally posted by wiffle

it sounds like by calling you are risking 20 to win 73 which is about what you need against 33-qq. he could be doing this with an ace or random air because its teh microz. you also win with a 2 against pps.

So if I made this call everytime.....would if be profitable over
the long term.......

lolguy999 · 03-02-11, 09:11 PM

Yes... more info needed. You say you're short stack... exactly HOW short stacked? What's his stack? Whats the blinds and howmany bb do you have? lol those can help u analyze the situation.

Second of all, nothing wrong with the call. AK on a board of 222 i woulda done the same thing, PROVIDED the difference between your bet on the flop and his all in did not have too big of a $ difference. Would also help if u told us the % pot u bet on the flop

lolguy999 · 03-02-11, 09:13 PM

all-in at micro tables usually signifies strength unless he's a known fish. So yes and no to that. its all situational

JW Cash · 03-02-11, 11:19 PM

Originally posted by lolguy999

all-in at micro tables usually signifies strength unless he's a known fish. So yes and no to that. its all situational

I had bet a pot size bet on the flop and then he reraised all in......

I had 35 Big Blinds before the hand and he had something like 75...

I had raised 4 Big Blinds preflop and he called....so when I raised a pot
size bet on the flop...that would leave me with 23 Big Blinds left and he
should have had approximatley 71 when he raised me all in....
So that would have been around the pct that you were talking about....

Conan · 03-02-11, 11:42 PM

Originally posted by JW Cash

AK would be a slight favorite over his 4 4 ......but I am thinking I made
a loose call....especially calling HIS All in......If I went All In before him,
then maybe it would have turned out different.....

AK is not a slight fav your more than a 3/1 underdog on that flop

itriedsohard · 03-02-11, 11:51 PM

easy fold. if your super short stacked, should have shoved preflop.