SBR gave me 3000 pts then took 2500

[FuzzyDunlop]

Anyone to the right of Soni was at an extreme disadvantage in their SB while anyone paying attention knowing that the BB was dead, their raising range grows exponentially.

[Scratch]

i would think it depends on if you actually logged in and hit auto fold, or didn't log in at all. sbr should be able to check if you logged in or not. I think if you logged in you should get the points.

[lolguy999]

[lolguy999]

agreed. very ridiculous when lolguy999 gets 5000points for sitting out and not being dealt a hand when a royal flush hits and gets 5,000 points for it, yet soni is dealt every hand and folds his way to 11th place (whether autofolding or manually) and doesn't get the points for it. I understand SBRPoker is its own identity and therefore they can do what they want, but industry standards are there for a reason. And who knows what would've happened if soni's table hit a royal flush Just another reason why there needs to be an independent review of these situations.

i was at the table... see rules for reference or a psychologist for problems

[BeerDog99]

I agree. While I am loath to complain about free poker, SBR should try and fit with the standard rules/practices. If you are registered and somehow fold your way to the money, every other site i have seen will pay you. To be honest though I have never tried not playing a single hand. That seems stupid/unlikely but whatever floats your boat.

On a related topic, I hate how Fulltilt will not autofold a players cards if they are all-in and sitting out. My opinion is that the way pokerstars handles it is the best. Pokerstars will fold the sitting out players hand, no matter if they are all-in or not. There never should be a situation where an empty chair should win a hand......

[darys]

I guess John or lou would come here and explain what they think about this issue.

[Slainte]

soni:
Last Saturday I decided to see what happens if I leave the computer to automatically fold. It folded all the time and at the end I got the 11th place.

VegasVixen:
I was sitting to his right on the 1st table and I can verify that he DID play several hands. He did not respond to any chat, and I suspected he wasn't there, but later he did in fact play some hands. He showed, he played, he deserves his 11th place points paid in full.

[paciophobia]

its either of two scenarios, that he either played or did not play in the tourney. if SBR thinks he played, he should get his prices for 11th place. if SBR puts it that he did not show up, he should get his 500. either way this guy should be getting points IMO.

[Wulfman14]

Yes,he dont deserve anything for this kind of play.
This is free contest why you cheat

err do you know anything about poker ? how is folding every time cheating ?

but you must prove you were at the computer and manually folding. SBR doesnt know if you were auto folding or doing it on purpose . if you can prove you were at the computer then SBR should give you the points back.

i usually always side with SBR but in this case if you can somehow prove you were present then they must refund those points to you. you were just trying a weird ass strategy that you conjured up.

[soni]

i was at the table... see rules for reference or a psychologist for problems

I was at the tables too, logged in. Let SBR check their session logs

[cankid]

Im sure it ll work itself out

[horja1]

he should get the points

[Czu81]

why autofold?? u deserved it mate.....

[RudyRuetigger]

i was at the table... see rules for reference or a psychologist for problems

to actually think you have a case is fukkin laughable.


for some strange reason they decided to give you 5k points instead of points to those people that actually deserve them, like soni.

[bachngocduong]

just email lou and tell him u auto folded

Same shit auto folded = No-showed

[soni]

ok then take back lolguy's points. how come he got 5000 points, and I got mine revoked?

[thechaoz]

Anyone who has any intelligence and understands poker at all would realize there is nothing wrong with this. If people are so bad that they can't last longer then the guy getting blinded away they are just stupid.

In poker you have the choice to raise/call/fold any hand preflop/flop/turn/river. If you choose this strategy, though obv not optimal to winning, there is nothing wrong with this. Many ppl have used this on stars/tilt in small sattys to big tournaments near the bubble.

So if you have a great stack with 15 ppl left and and 6 places get a trip to the bahamas for example, not only will players fold every hand, they will delay every hand and let the time bank run down. If it is truly the case you register, were in the tourney and just folded every hand then this is an absolute travesty. There is no requirement in any tourney for a certain number of hands to be played, and this is beyond shady by sbr.

[Glitch]

guess i gotta dig up the 500pt no-show rule myself.....

[Glitch]

Congrats on advancing to the SBR Poker Championship event, held on Saturday, February 5th at 3:00pm ET.

You must register yourself.
Event password: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

In the event that you are unable to register for this event due to other commitments, you will be given 500 SBRpoints.

Best regards,
Lou
........................................ ........................................ .....................

this is the PM that is sent out to satellite winners. (from first week)
he WAS able to register.

not choosing a side here, just speaking out for what is fair.

[will2survive]

Christ: some guys complain about everything. If folding every hand got him 11th place. It's legit. Plain and simple. There's a rule against folding? Stop whining about 15th place or whatever else. If the man is REGISTERED, he can do whatever he wants. He didn't have confidence in himself, yet he still managed to make it deep into a tournament. Nobody should take points away in any other tournaments as long as he's registered.

[pokernut9999]

The crazy shit just keeps on coming on SBR
Hard to make this crap up.

[Bill Dozer]

Pressing check, or pressing fold vs timing out would have counted as showing up. Not making a single action is a no-show. Having your computer on does not count as playing.

Unfortunately for no-shows we credit the winners list points automatically. I don't blame someone for being disappointed seeing the initial points purse and then only keeping 500. But don't say you read the rules and decided you'd risk your prize on semantics. We gave 500 for making it as well as a prize for winning the satellite. These rules are there for the integrity of the game not so we can save a few pizzas.

[Glitch]

but shouldnt you disclose that prior to executing these repercussions- im still looking for where we got any sort of warning.

please link us to "these rules"

[SBR Lou]

but shouldnt you disclose that prior to executing these repercussions- im still looking for where we got any sort of warning. please link us to "these rules"

Glitch,

The rules stated (fine-print item 3):

If a satellite winner is unable to register and play in that Saturday's Championship event, they will receive 500 points.

We can all agree 'soni' registered. However, as stated above, the participant must 'register' and 'play'. His account auto-folded the entire tournament, as he admits. What action of his would constitute playing?

In regards to Vegas Vixen's comments about observing him play, we have the entire hand history for the tournament, but I don't see the need to post that as soni himself admits being on auto-fold throughout.

Had he called, checked, raised, or done anything aside from auto-fold for the entire tournament even just once, he would have received more than the listed 500 points for non-players.

[Glitch]

unable to register and play. it does not say register OR play. but i suppose that is all semantics.

good job with the tournaments and thanks for everything sbr. lesson learned i guess. ah well soni.

[soni]

i ticked the away check-button to automatically fold for me, so i dont have to do it all the time. isn't pressing fold the same thing? if you're not saving a few pizzas then please refund the 1000 points. thank you

[Glitch]

unable to register and play. it does not say register OR play. but i suppose that is all semantics.

good job with the tournaments and thanks for everything sbr. lesson learned i guess. ah well soni.

rules are rules and if thats what you meant, thats what you meant but heres what i mean if its not clear:

example: if you are unable to eat at the expensive 5 star restaurant and survive without getting food poisoning and dying- your family can sue for lots of money.

if they meant your family could sue if someone couldnt eat at the restaurant (financial reasons, previous engagements) OR if they got food poisoning and died, it would say or instead of and.



sorry for being a pest or if i am making matters worse- i am not anti-sbr, i just am trying to explain how the rule would most likely be interpreted as soni and i viewed it- by most. i do appreciate everything you do for us and like i said rules are rules and they are your rules. but maybe you should edit that for the upcoming 2 events.

[darys]

Vegas Vixen's comments is really confusing me. You saw him play???

[BeerDog99]

Given it is not crystal-clear on this issue in the rules "register and play" seems to be the operative terms here, I assume this is the equivalent of calling the floor manager over to make a ruling.

It looks to me that Lou and Bill have made the floor ruling (i.e. interpretation of the house rules in the situation).

[Glitch]

Given it is not crystal-clear on this issue in the rules "register and play" seems to be the operative terms here, I assume this is the equivalent of calling the floor manager over to make a ruling.

It looks to me that Lou and Bill have made the floor ruling (i.e. interpretation of the house rules in the situation).

agreed.

[soni]

unfortunate. lou stole my pizza from the platter and slammed the door im hungry and angry now

[uofajoe99]

Soni at least you get to keep the awesome button at the bottom of your posts....or maybe it should have an *...

[soni]

the awesome button? remove it, i don't need it. and update your winners table that i didn't win anything. im disappointed with this forum. first they delayed my cash orders, i had to ask every day to process them now this crap. im tired, im wasting my time here nothing else

[RudyRuetigger]

very unfortunate ruling

[BeerDog99]

very unfortunate ruling

No arguement there. I have always been the type to err on the customer's side for these grey area issues. I had a similar issue with Fulltilt (not the same situation, just on how they ruled on the issue) so I can appreciate being extra irritated on this.