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  • soni
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 01-21-08
    • 860

    #1
    SBR gave me 3000 pts then took 2500
    I entered the poker tourney on Saturday and I folded all the time, wanted to see how far I'll get. Then I placed 11th and I was given 1500 pts. Then I was given another 1500 pts, so that totalled 3000. I guess that was some sort of a mistake. Then they noticed that and took back the 1500, but next day they took another 1000 apparently for not showing in the poker tourney. The thing is I never win anything in poker, just placed 2nd once and that's all. Last Saturday I decided to see what happens if I leave the computer to automatically fold. It folded all the time and at the end I got the 11th place. Now because I didn't CALL/RAISE/CHECK they decided to take back the points. The rule "If a satellite winner is unable to register and play in that Saturday's Championship event, they will receive 500 points." doesn't say that you can't fold all the time, so technically folding should count for playing, because by folding all the time you can either place last or in the middle somewhere. So it's your choice. If they consider folding and auto-away as not playing then they should boot you and write that auto idling doesn't count as playing. How the FUK should I know that?
  • dikefale
    SBR MVP
    • 09-20-10
    • 1017

    #2
    They stated that who dont show up to tourney will get only 500 pts.
    Other thing you try to scam theh for lousy 1500 pts by not reporting them mistake.
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    • soni
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 01-21-08
      • 860

      #3
      I didn't try to scam them, I asked about my points and they said OK your points have been transfered to you. Then later some time, I saw in the log that they transfered 1500 pts AGAIN! I didn't spend those, so I don't blame them for taking them back, it's fully OK, but they've taken the other 1000 pts.
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      • kidk
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 03-22-09
        • 879

        #4
        just email lou and tell him u auto folded
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        • dikefale
          SBR MVP
          • 09-20-10
          • 1017

          #5
          Same shit is if you fold all time and stay behind pc,or you go out.
          They have rules.
          Maybe i was harsh saying that you try to scam them,but why you didnt report 1500 more they gave you.
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          • soni
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 01-21-08
            • 860

            #6
            I already chatted to him twice, but he wasn't really listening. He was like 'you received your 500 pts' and hang up, not leaving space for comment. Same story second time. difekale it's not the same because you auto post small/big blinds whether you fold or not and people take your money ... So if they're not accepting idling they should specify this in their rules or boot you from playing
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            • FuzzyDunlop
              SBR MVP
              • 01-15-11
              • 2422

              #7
              Once the tournament starts, they just can't remove you. Your chips are in play.
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              • B1GER1C828
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 07-31-07
                • 10244

                #8
                You didnt play...why do you think ur entitled to more than the people who actually played? If you didn't play i woulda gotten 15th and 500 more points. SO thanks for fuking me out of 500 points.
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                • dikefale
                  SBR MVP
                  • 09-20-10
                  • 1017

                  #9
                  Originally posted by B1GER1C828
                  You didnt play...why do you think ur entitled to more than the people who actually played? If you didn't play i woulda gotten 15th and 500 more points. SO thanks for fuking me out of 500 points.
                  Yes,he dont deserve anything for this kind of play.
                  This is free contest why you cheat
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                  • BigDaddy
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 02-01-06
                    • 8378

                    #10
                    nothing wrong with a guy folding all the time.

                    he cant win that way but i don't see how it can be against the rules?

                    seems unfair to me to punish him

                    he did play for those saying he didn't are wrong

                    he just chose to fold every hand.
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                    • RudyRuetigger
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 08-24-10
                      • 65107

                      #11
                      i think 11th place should be paid to soni as well.

                      out of the 3 scenarios, thadchr not getting his money back for sportsbook, lolguy999 wanting royal flush winner, and soni sitting out, I think soni should get the points 1st, thad 2nd, and lolguy999 last. Somehow sbr decided to give points to lolguy999 and not the other 2 which is really confusing.
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                      • Glitch
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 07-08-09
                        • 11795

                        #12
                        i think they said if you dont register you get 500, not if you dont show up...

                        really not sure though. someone should look that up.

                        if you were sitting there watchiing it autofold for you then you should definitely get paid...if not- hmmm, i dunno. that sucks though.
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                        • Ryangene
                          Restricted User
                          • 12-04-08
                          • 3381

                          #13
                          I would say you are S.O.L .... Why would anyone in their right mind sit behind a computer and just let the computer "auto fold". I dont care if you are doing a test. Do it when its not a tournament when people are actually trying to win.
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                          • BigDaddy
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 02-01-06
                            • 8378

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Ryangene
                            I would say you are S.O.L .... Why would anyone in their right mind sit behind a computer and just let the computer "auto fold". .
                            it got him 11th place and what ever prize comes with that

                            he did better than half the field.
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                            • soni
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 01-21-08
                              • 860

                              #15
                              B1GER1C828 sometimes you go ALL in and you get nowhere but sometimes you fold and you get 11th. It's your choice and risk. I didn't complain that I played 100 times SBR poker up until now and won nothing, just once I placed 2nd, so I got the wild card from you to participate in the Saturday tourney. I thought there aren't many people, just 25 so since I'm not that experienced poker player I decided to autofold and I predicted right - I got in the middle of the rankings. I was listed in the table as 11th with 1500 pts but didn't get it. Folding in technical terms is playing as well. If folding doesn't count, then they should either specifically state this in their rules or boot you or not offer you the option to autofold. I dunno what else to say, they did none of these. If folding's against the rules, then redefine your rules and give me back my points, so I'll know next time not to use the auto-away option or fold all the time.
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                              • RudyRuetigger
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 08-24-10
                                • 65107

                                #16
                                i was watching the tourney soni advanced because i was railing bigeric. heads up against eric he limped the button, called erics raise, called the flop bet which was half of his remaining chips and called off all his chips with k3o on something like 10 9 6 2 board. I actually believe his strategy was to see how far he could get by folding
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                                • soni
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 01-21-08
                                  • 860

                                  #17
                                  never mind ... after numerous requests to sam lou and the rest of sbr crew, they're not giving the damn points. now all i got is 252 pts and im thinking what to do with them. i'm pissed off, i had 1500 now suddenly i have 252 remaining. if they were not giving me the points, they shouldn't have given it, but instead they gave me 1500 pts and i ordered $100 cash (5dimes) and after 2 days they cancelled my order and took back my points. i'll just lump together on a parlay in the NHL: blues capitals and flames so i'll be damn
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                                  • jetsjets1028
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 02-10-10
                                    • 1234

                                    #18
                                    haahah what bunch of marlarkey
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                                    • soni
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 01-21-08
                                      • 860

                                      #19
                                      yeah thanks for the smart comment
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                                      • Blax0r
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 10-13-10
                                        • 688

                                        #20
                                        I was wondering whether soni was there or not; looks like verifies my suspicions.
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                                        • darys
                                          SBR Sharp
                                          • 03-23-09
                                          • 315

                                          #21
                                          I think he just didn't play and made up some excuses like "auto-fold" is a way of play and try to get more points.
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                                          • mighty maron
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 04-20-09
                                            • 4215

                                            #22
                                            I put in a claim to the lost and found department for the 1k points. LOL...seriously what happens when the prize pool is shrunk by 1k due to confiscation?
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                                            • MexicanStallion
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 09-08-08
                                              • 20429

                                              #23
                                              Sorry to hear that. I guess you should have played one hand to qualify? I don't know. SBR changes things up as it goes for the good or the bad.
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                                              • soni
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 01-21-08
                                                • 860

                                                #24
                                                i don't care anymore, i'm fed up with this sheet. you can think whatever you want, i played, i folded, it doesn't matter anymore. they gave me 1500 pts then took them AFTER 2 DAYS!!! GREAT feeling!
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                                                • masticore
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 07-24-09
                                                  • 1177

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by dikefale
                                                  Yes,he dont deserve anything for this kind of play.
                                                  This is free contest why you cheat
                                                  You cheat when fold every hand? pls explain?
                                                  You dont cheat when folding....you play ultra tight.
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                                                  • masticore
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 07-24-09
                                                    • 1177

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Ryangene
                                                    I would say you are S.O.L .... Why would anyone in their right mind sit behind a computer and just let the computer "auto fold". I dont care if you are doing a test. Do it when its not a tournament when people are actually trying to win.
                                                    Why complain? If you cant win vs a player that folds every hand...then stop playing poker
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                                                    • Kaladarus
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 11-11-09
                                                      • 1876

                                                      #27
                                                      There are a few tournaments out there that you can place in the money by folding every hand. Most poker sites allow this. However, SBR has set it's own rules and by SBR's rules you have to be there and playing. If you sat out you wouldn't be entitled to anything, but if you actually sat there and pushed the fold button for the majority of the tournament then by SBR's rules you should be entitled to the points. In my opinion this is not the best strategy, but there is no rule against it and it is fair. If you did do as you say you did and actually clicked the fold button then there is no reason why you shouldn't be awarded the full amount of points.
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                                                      • Glitch
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 07-08-09
                                                        • 11795

                                                        #28
                                                        if he was there and actually folded manually he needs to get his points back. 10000000 percent. but i doubt this is the case.
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                                                        • FourLengthsClear
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 12-29-10
                                                          • 3808

                                                          #29
                                                          If the blind structure allows a player to finish 11th by autofolding, he should be credited with 11th.
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                                                          • mighty maron
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 04-20-09
                                                            • 4215

                                                            #30
                                                            Autofolding is akin to not showing up. If he was there and manually folded everyhand then he should get his place.
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                                                            • Straight Cash
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 11-20-09
                                                              • 2202

                                                              #31
                                                              Tough call here, could see both sides, will be interesting to see how this turns out!
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                                                              • nosniboR11
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 09-02-08
                                                                • 10042

                                                                #32
                                                                I really dont understand the rule anyway, if he qualified he deserved what ever placed he finished in, no matter what
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                                                                • jcadwell
                                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                                  • 07-05-10
                                                                  • 475

                                                                  #33
                                                                  I think you should be entitled to those points... you finished 11th regardless if you played or not.
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                                                                  • VegasVixen
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 09-03-10
                                                                    • 991

                                                                    #34
                                                                    I was sitting to his right on the 1st table and I can verify that he DID play several hands. He did not respond to any chat, and I suspected he wasn't there, but later he did in fact play some hands. He showed, he played, he deserves his 11th place points paid in full.
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                                                                    • RudyRuetigger
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 08-24-10
                                                                      • 65107

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by nosniboR11
                                                                      I really dont understand the rule anyway, if he qualified he deserved what ever placed he finished in, no matter what
                                                                      agreed.


                                                                      very ridiculous when lolguy999 gets 5000points for sitting out and not being dealt a hand when a royal flush hits and gets 5,000 points for it, yet soni is dealt every hand and folds his way to 11th place (whether autofolding or manually) and doesn't get the points for it. I understand SBRPoker is its own identity and therefore they can do what they want, but industry standards are there for a reason.

                                                                      And who knows what would've happened if soni's table hit a royal flush

                                                                      Just another reason why there needs to be an independent review of these situations.
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