Recent Bad Beats at Cash games anyone

[chadodaddio]

Does this happen to anybody else time and time again SCENARIO--- I play regulary i mean daily internet poker can usually deposit 100$ and bankroll it up to 600/700 thru sit n go tournys in very short time feel good about myself and head over to the cash games either 3 tables atatime .50/1$ or a single 1/2$ table.

Tonight im at the 1/2 table buy in for 120 the first time playing for abut half hour have 230 guy raises my bb to 9$ i have kk i bump it to 24$ he 3 bets it 66 i 4bet all in he calls with 44 im stoked flop comes K 4 4 Ouch okay take the beat pretty well buy in again for 120 third hand in I call a bet of 18$ with AJ suited there is three of us in the hand flop comes J 5 7 i have top pair with nut flush draw first guy leads out 20$ second guy pops it to 40$ its on me i go all in for 100$ i figure if someone flopped a set or has bigger pair i got outs first guy folds scnd guy calls with 9 10 off suit!!! he calls 100 more on gutshot straight draw and rivers his 8 for a straigh and i miss my flush what kind of shit is this torture. Its back to my sit n go's for a while cash games can break your bankroll 2fast that you work so hard for

[Ian]

Dude, that's nothing. In a 2/5 game at Wynn I lost an almost 1.5K pot that I had already won. A dealer error caused the original river card to be shuffled back into the deck after all but $25 of my opponent's stack had been bet, and on the new river card my opponent hit a 9 outer.

[icancount2one]

To each of your questions "do you deposit often?" "do you run your bankroll up to 6x in one session of SNG's?" and "do you then try to parlay that putting 1/4 or more of your roll on the table in cashgames" the answers are NO, NO!, and ABSOLUTELY NOT!!! Bankroll management: google it. What you're doing is like running through a minefield, then getting upset when you take that one unlucky step.

[big budz]

you need mad self control for proper bankroll management. Its rare, but some ppl have it.

[asianxal]

Wow... 1.5k I'd cry...

[mrmarket]

Assuming your roll is $700 and you buy in for 100 BB

100 NL = 7 BI's
200 NL = 3.5 BI's

The standard rule is at least 20 BI's. It is debatable because your bankroll should really be based on your winrate but generally as you increase in stakes you need more of a bankroll because your edge thins.

That being said losing 7 buy ins or 3.5 buy ins is really nothing. I'm on a 7 buy in downswing atm (insert bad beat stories here) and there are many proven winning players that have had 20 BI+ downswings. The variance is huge in poker.

With $700 you really should be playing 25NL ( $0.10/$0.25 blinds) which would give you 28 BI's and move up to 50NL when you reach $1000.

Of course all this is assuming you're a winning player. If you are a losing player no amount of BR can help you as it's is 100% certain that you will go broke. Think of playing slots in a casino and it is essentially the same thing. If this is the case just think of it as a budget instead of a bankroll that you use to learn the game. 2+2, reading and playing will get you on your way. Good luck.

[chadodaddio]

Thanks for the insight and replies

[poker_dummy101]

bankroll management

[poker_dummy101]

Assuming your roll is $700 and you buy in for 100 BB

100 NL = 7 BI's
200 NL = 3.5 BI's

The standard rule is at least 20 BI's. It is debatable because your bankroll should really be based on your winrate but generally as you increase in stakes you need more of a bankroll because your edge thins.

That being said losing 7 buy ins or 3.5 buy ins is really nothing. I'm on a 7 buy in downswing atm (insert bad beat stories here) and there are many proven winning players that have had 20 BI+ downswings. The variance is huge in poker.

With $700 you really should be playing 25NL ( $0.10/$0.25 blinds) which would give you 28 BI's and move up to 50NL when you reach $1000.

Of course all this is assuming you're a winning player. If you are a losing player no amount of BR can help you as it's is 100% certain that you will go broke. Think of playing slots in a casino and it is essentially the same thing. If this is the case just think of it as a budget instead of a bankroll that you use to learn the game. 2+2, reading and playing will get you on your way. Good luck.

yea this is pretty much spot on.. except stay away from 2+2 nowadays

[Czu81]

yea this is pretty much spot on.. except stay away from 2+2 nowadays

Why? It`s still great place to learn from..

[mrmarket]

yea this is pretty much spot on.. except stay away from 2+2 nowadays

Why what's wrong with 2+2 now? I'd assume that the strategy discussion has moved away from them into the various training sites but you still find some gems in there.

[poker_dummy101]

2+2 has become the "players talk" subforum of poker in general imo

[Glitch]

it seems you have somehow managed to upset the poker gods. build an altar and sacrifice a small animal then go all-in with 7-2 offsuit.

after that- everything should be good.

[blix177]

If you play daily, you should use cheat software, like poker edge, and a few other I don't remember the name of. 2+2 forum should have a list of them.

[chadodaddio]

when i said i played daily i meant maybe and hour or two a night not daily as in this is my job thanks again for the replies to this thread tho very interesting
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