Ace Jack Diamonds.ALL in preflop vs a chip leader?

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  • aznguy777
    SBR Rookie
    • 01-25-10
    • 35

    #1
    Ace Jack Diamonds.ALL in preflop vs a chip leader?
    Ace Jack Diamonds.ALL in preflop vs a chip leader?

    would you do this at the final table?
  • nivekk1400
    SBR High Roller
    • 02-02-10
    • 127

    #2
    i doubt it
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    • JohnAnthony
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 04-30-09
      • 5110

      #3
      Some question you gotta ask first:

      - What's your chip count?
      - How many players are left?
      - Where do you stand within them?
      - Where are the blinds?
      - When will they go up next?
      - How far are you from the next higher chip/lower chip count?
      - How many big blinds do you have left?
      - Are there any donkis/high activity on the table? (could wait and wait for a better spot)

      Generally, I wouldn't.
      "I have never seen a wild thing feel sorry for itself. A little bird will fall dead, frozen from a bough, without ever having felt sorry for itself."

      - D.H. Lawrence
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      • icancount2one
        SBR MVP
        • 01-05-10
        • 1507

        #4
        A lot of the time I'm 3 betting/4 betting all in with AJ suited against an aggressive chip leader, especially if I'm short.

        It's not a hand you should call your stack off with every time, but what are you waiting for? You don't win donkaments sitting around waiting for AA.
        Walter forgot... when you're desperate's when you got no choice.
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        • blueghost
          SBR MVP
          • 09-11-09
          • 1715

          #5
          only if i was heads up even or short stacked
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          • andrew5
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 06-08-09
            • 677

            #6
            donkaments
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            • Ian
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 11-09-09
              • 6119

              #7
              Originally posted by JohnAnthony
              Some question you gotta ask first:

              - What's your chip count?
              - How many players are left?
              - Where do you stand within them?
              - Where are the blinds?
              - When will they go up next?
              - How far are you from the next higher chip/lower chip count?
              - How many big blinds do you have left?
              - Are there any donkis/high activity on the table? (could wait and wait for a better spot)

              Generally, I wouldn't.
              Basically, I agree with his post. We need a lot more information to give a good answer. If you're on a short stack (15 BBs or less) then in most cases you'll want to shove.
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              • rm18
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 09-20-05
                • 22292

                #8
                yeh probably but depends on info of course
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                • asianxal
                  SBR Hustler
                  • 01-15-10
                  • 69

                  #9
                  Also, how much money is on the line. If its 50 cents (sorry fitty cents) i'd do it. I'd be all in on 29 off just for the hell of it. Just to mention it... donkamend is my new favorite word...
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                  • poker_dummy101
                    Restricted User
                    • 11-03-08
                    • 6395

                    #10
                    impossible to answer given the vague guidelines
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                    • neville sinclair
                      SBR Sharp
                      • 04-03-09
                      • 257

                      #11
                      need more information about the table
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                      • BaumChamp
                        SBR Hustler
                        • 02-09-10
                        • 94

                        #12
                        Just give the positions of you and CL, other info isn't needed
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                        • rm18
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 09-20-05
                          • 22292

                          #13
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                          • rm18
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 09-20-05
                            • 22292

                            #14
                            arg
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                            • rm18
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 09-20-05
                              • 22292

                              #15
                              arg
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                              • poker_dummy101
                                Restricted User
                                • 11-03-08
                                • 6395

                                #16
                                whats that about?
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                                • icancount2one
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 01-05-10
                                  • 1507

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Ian
                                  Basically, I agree with his post. We need a lot more information to give a good answer. If you're on a short stack (15 BBs or less) then in most cases you'll want to shove.
                                  Yeah, I guess really the biggest consideration is how many BBs you have left. If it's in the <20 range and you're up against the chip leader, it's often a race or you have the best hand. If you run into AQ-JJ-AA type hands, too bad.

                                  But at this point it doesn't matter, because OP stopped contributing to the thread.
                                  Walter forgot... when you're desperate's when you got no choice.
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                                  • aznguy777
                                    SBR Rookie
                                    • 01-25-10
                                    • 35

                                    #18
                                    results=AJ suited preflop ALLBAD.
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                                    • bigpapa89
                                      SBR Sharp
                                      • 11-19-09
                                      • 447

                                      #19
                                      i hate A-J but at this point in the tourney sometimes you have to.
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                                      • pitman
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 08-15-09
                                        • 2216

                                        #20
                                        id do a 3 bb raise, and see whats up, depending on my position. its definately a trouble hand
                                        I went out 3rd with AJ os with 3 left in a 26$ with around 780 ppl in it. he had AQ os. Ever since then I fold AJ pretty easy.
                                        AQ has been taking out my AK alot lately... them basthards
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                                        • jaypeezy
                                          SBR Rookie
                                          • 01-26-10
                                          • 9

                                          #21
                                          aa or kk
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                                          • TheLock
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 04-06-08
                                            • 14427

                                            #22
                                            AJ is generally a dog sh*t hand but we need a ton more information to give an accurate response
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