Did I play this hand too fast?

[TheLock]

Here's the setup:

$1/$2 NL at the local casino. I've been at the table and I would imagine I have a tight table image. 3 pre-flop raises have been folded around and the only pot I was involved with I was in the BB and flopped top 2 and played it aggressive.

It's a soft table. Calling is the most common play. There is one LAG guy who juices it up 60% of the hands he's dealt. He's the only LAG guy at the table.

The LAG has about $240 behind and I have about $110 behind. I've decided that when I pick up a mid to premium pocket pair that I'm going to play back at him.

LAG makes it $10 from fairly early position and gets one caller. I look down at 99 in late position. There's now $23 in the pot and I make it $50 to go. His raising range is large IMO.

LAG insta-calls the re-raise and the other player folds.


Flop comes K/7/2 rainbow.

LAG checks and I put in my remaining $60. LAG thinks for about 5 seconds and calls. LAG looks completely shocked that he has won the hand when I show my cards and he flips up TT.

Did I play this hand too fast?


I had just come from a broken up $2/$5 table and I'm thinking maybe I was getting a little bored.

[Glitch]

a feeler bet to see if he had the king woulda been nice- pretending like youre trying to get value for your own king- even tho neither of you had one. it probably woulda pushed him out easier if he thought you bet like you wanted him to stay in.

[PAULYPOKER]

NO your luck just ran out
BOO!!!

[UntilTheNDofTimE]

When you Re-raise a raise pre flop the LAG is now checking to see where you stand, by your completely firing out, it says you don't have a King and you want the hand to end there. If you had $60 remaining you should have bet $30 with the current pot. Although your remaining 30 on the turn probably wouldn't push him off the hand, since he was given great pot odds to call, but it wasn't the right play for you to just push 60 all in like that.

[secret007]

played it far too aggressive imo... but still a decent one.

[Lockitup1x]

By re-raising and building a pot with a marginal hand you are neutralizing most of your positional advantage and making the LAGs (and cold callers) decisions a lot easier.

[TheLock]

I should have realized he wasn't good enough to fold the 10's to a re-raise pre-flop out of position.

I agree with Lockitup as well.

Thanks for the input guys.

[PAULYPOKER]

yes you did

[suicideking08]

1/2 live games are some of the softest poker that can be played. Why do you only have 110 at a 1/2 table after you've only played one pot? Don't min buy into these games, there's a ton of value in full buying. I think you played this hand bad. I like 3-betting preflop, but if you're going to make it 50 and you have 60 behind, then you're committed. Especially if you think this guy's range is everywhere. You're not going to fold when one over card hits the flop. Buying in short just makes playing 99 very marginal, I think you might have judged this guy too quickly as you said you've only played one pot at the table, how many orbits did you play until this hand came up?

[icancount2one]

Yeesh, the one time he has tens through queens, you played it too fast. The nine times out of ten he has AQ-A6, JT, or other random monkey junk he folds and you protected your hand.

When you play short-stacked, you limit your options, and of your limited options, you took the best one if he was as LAGgy as you say.

[chadodaddio]

agrreed you should have three bet it preflop although he probably wasnt going anywhere but you were really committed

[TheLock]

1/2 live games are some of the softest poker that can be played. Why do you only have 110 at a 1/2 table after you've only played one pot? Don't min buy into these games, there's a ton of value in full buying. I think you played this hand bad. I like 3-betting preflop, but if you're going to make it 50 and you have 60 behind, then you're committed. Especially if you think this guy's range is everywhere. You're not going to fold when one over card hits the flop. Buying in short just makes playing 99 very marginal, I think you might have judged this guy too quickly as you said you've only played one pot at the table, how many orbits did you play until this hand came up?

I live in Florida, you can only buy in for $100 (the max). Yeah, it's full retard.


You know what the max buy in is at the 5/10 level? You guessed it, $100.


I had seen about 8 orbits prior to this pot.

[UntilTheNDofTimE]

I live in Florida, you can only buy in for $100 (the max). Yeah, it's full retard.


You know what the max buy in is at the 5/10 level? You guessed it, $100.


I had seen about 8 orbits prior to this pot.

Time to find yourself a new casino/cardroom. I dont no if you guys are limited out there but out here in sacramento, ca. Theres about 20 cardrooms in sacramento and 6 casino's within a hour drive.

1/2 NL is 100 min 200 max
1/3 NL is 100 min 200 max
2/4 min-max
when you go up to 5/8 NL, the minimum here is $400 and the maximum buyin you can match the chip leader at the table. So if hes sitting with 5k, you can buy in 5k.

[TheLock]

Time to find yourself a new casino/cardroom. I dont no if you guys are limited out there but out here in sacramento, ca. Theres about 20 cardrooms in sacramento and 6 casino's within a hour drive.

1/2 NL is 100 min 200 max
1/3 NL is 100 min 200 max
2/4 min-max
when you go up to 5/8 NL, the minimum here is $400 and the maximum buyin you can match the chip leader at the table. So if hes sitting with 5k, you can buy in 5k.

I don't think you quite understand. There is a law in the State of Florida that prohibits buying in for more than $100 at a poker table.

I can't just drive to another casino.

[suicideking08]

Man I would move out of Florida, or stick to online play. max buy in for 1/2 at 100 is a joke.

[UntilTheNDofTimE]

I don't think you quite understand. There is a law in the State of Florida that prohibits buying in for more than $100 at a poker table. I can't just drive to another casino.

I stated in my post that i didnt no if you guys were limited. But yea, that sucks.

[slacker00]

Brutally tough hand. Those mid pocket pairs always get me into trouble like this. You shoulda went faster or slower.

Since there was a caller and you've got position, it's probably correct to flat call here. (What could the caller have?)

The other option would be to go all-in, since your stack is basically short. You've really only got one raise, not two.

[crownontheground]

Brutally tough hand. Those mid pocket pairs always get me into trouble like this. You shoulda went faster or slower. Since there was a caller and you've got position, it's probably correct to flat call here. (What could the caller have?) The other option would be to go all-in, since your stack is basically short. You've really only got one raise, not two.

I'd say faster =\

[TheLock]

If I shoved pre-flop I think he would have called.

He wasn't good enough to lay down TT preflop. I don't think he was aware that I'd play very tight up until that hand.

[Cappy]

that's tough, at that point you're kinda just gambling. I would have to know a little more about his tendencies. You should play more hands, 9's won't look so good.

[poker_dummy101]

you've played a total of 8 hands and already have these reads/know how the table perceives your play?

[slacker00]

If I shoved pre-flop I think he would have called.

He wasn't good enough to lay down TT preflop. I don't think he was aware that I'd play very tight up until that hand.

Well, I'm taking into consideration that you seem short stacked, plus he's getting squeezed by the guy behind him.

Obviously if you know he's got TT, just lay the hand down! We're analyzing the situation, not the results.

[TheLock]

you've played a total of 8 hands and already have these reads/know how the table perceives your play?

Post #12 states that I had seen 8 ORBITS. Your reading skills suck.

[poker_dummy101]

nvm not worth trying to explain to you.

But in the first post you state you had JUST come from a broken 2/5 game.

8 orbits is over 1 hour in live play.

So it looks like your writing skills suck.

[TheLock]

Yeah I had just come from a 2/5 table.

8 orbits is not a lot of time in a 9 hour poker session.

[poker_dummy101]

only thing i wouldve done differently is make the 3bet around $35.

on the flop you only have half pot size bet left it is an auto all in.

[Kaladarus]

Isolate the LAG with good hands always. Pocket 9s will dominate his range and make you profit in the long run. Someone calling the LAG is very typical because they're not scared of him, but having a tight player come over the top will isolate the LAG from the player that was trying to see the flop with a weaker hand. This is a very good move. Isolating bad players is key to winning.

[jaypeezy]

jus like wen I playd pocket 9 too fast and he hghest cards was a jack on board.

[TheLock]

Isolate the LAG with good hands always. Pocket 9s will dominate his range and make you profit in the long run. Someone calling the LAG is very typical because they're not scared of him, but having a tight player come over the top will isolate the LAG from the player that was trying to see the flop with a weaker hand. This is a very good move. Isolating bad players is key to winning.

Thanks for the input Kaladarus. This was my frame of mind going into the hand.

[poker_dummy101]

Isolate the LAG with good hands always. Pocket 9s will dominate his range and make you profit in the long run. Someone calling the LAG is very typical because they're not scared of him, but having a tight player come over the top will isolate the LAG from the player that was trying to see the flop with a weaker hand. This is a very good move. Isolating bad players is key to winning.

Agree but 35 is more than enough to accomplish that and the 50bb start throws this hand off with stack sizes imo

[TheLock]

The other limper may come along for the ride if I make it $35 though