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  • Chipup
    SBR MVP
    • 07-24-13
    • 1435

    #1
    Suspicious hand for your judgement. Collusion?
    ***** Hand history (v1.2) *****
    Hand ID 7382081
    $0 + $6 Texas Hold'em (No Limit) - 15:21:00 14/09/2018 ET
    Table 'Table 78867', 10 seats max, Real money
    Seat 9 is the button. Small Blind $25, Big Blind $50
    Note: seat IDs range from 1 to 10
    Seat 1 (playing) : dlowilly, amount $2360, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
    Seat 2 (playing) : leovegas, amount $1860, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
    Seat 3 (playing) : Mannyfan, amount $1565, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
    Seat 4 (playing) : Stifler, amount $1445, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
    Seat 5 (playing) : brock, amount $1130, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
    Seat 6 (playing) : Igor_1965, amount $990, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
    Seat 7 (playing) : OldSchoolGambler, amount $1625, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
    Seat 8 (playing) : chipup, amount $1240, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
    Seat 9 (playing) : katstale, amount $1285, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
    dlowilly: Small Blind ($25)
    leovegas: Big Blind ($50)
    ** Dealing Down Cards **
    Dealt to chipup: [Jd, Kc]
    Mannyfan: Call ($50)
    Stifler: Fold
    brock: Fold
    Igor_1965: Call ($50)
    OldSchoolGambler: Call ($50)
    chipup: Raise [btn] ($140)
    katstale: Fold
    dlowilly: Call ($115)
    leovegas: Call ($90)
    Mannyfan: Call ($90)
    Igor_1965: Call ($90)
    OldSchoolGambler: Fold
    ** Dealing Flop **
    Community cards: [8d, 7h, 7s]
    dlowilly: Bet ($350)
    leovegas: Fold
    Mannyfan: Call ($350)
    Igor_1965: Call ($350)
    chipup: Fold [btn] ($0)
    ** Dealing Turn **
    Community cards: [Qd]
    dlowilly: Check ($0)
    Mannyfan: Check ($0)
    Igor_1965: Bet ($200)
    dlowilly: Call ($200)
    Mannyfan: Fold
    ** Dealing River **
    Community cards: [8s]
    dlowilly: Check ($0)
    Igor_1965: Bet ($300)
    dlowilly: Fold
    ** End Round **
    ** Evaluate **
    Igor_1965: Muck ($0)
    ** Showdown **
    Main pot $2200, Rake $0
    Summary Igor_1965: bet $990, won $2500, net $1510, won $2200 from main pot


    To fold on the end for 300 points when you have so much behind. After betting and calling the whole way on that board. Just doesn't seem like the hand played out in a normal fashion.
  • ArunSh
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 09-24-07
    • 6801

    #2
    Umm, how on earth is this collusion?? So he bets the flop, perhaps he was bluffing or semi-bluffing with a draw. And then on the river, he likely has nothing (who knows maybe he had T9 or 65, lot of possibilities) so even though the river bet was small, he obviously couldn't call when he might have just been playing the board?

    I don't understand this accusation at all...
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    • Krashman
      SBR MVP
      • 07-24-09
      • 3749

      #3
      He probably had a pocket pair.

      His hand did not improve after the flop.

      He semi- bluffed then called hoping for a full house.

      Opponent likely had a full house by the river so he folded.

      NO COLLUSION.
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      • jtoler
        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
        • 12-17-13
        • 30967

        #4
        y does it say real money
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        • cincinnatikid513
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 11-23-17
          • 45360

          #5
          dlo prob had 910 or 56 as arunsh says guy is sharp once board pairs and he misses completely all he can play for is a chop
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          • brian311
            SBR MVP
            • 12-05-15
            • 2700

            #6
            He could also have had a low pockets like 55 or 66 etc.

            Hand gets counterfeited on the river so he can't call.
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            • fried cheese
              SBR MVP
              • 09-17-13
              • 4461

              #7
              looks like dlow had pocket 7's and could see igor's hand and knew he had pocket 8's.
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              • blankoblanco
                SBR MVP
                • 11-18-11
                • 3499

                #8
                What even is this thread? He either whiffed a draw or had his low pair counterfeited, ended up with squat. This is, like, poker 101 dude.
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                • phinfan27615
                  SBR MVP
                  • 07-10-17
                  • 1837

                  #9
                  dlo is a notorious bluffer I call him regardless what I have and usually win
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                  • bonzaii
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 07-07-17
                    • 5000

                    #10
                    Definitely collusion. I expect to see a 100 day ban given out immediately.
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                    • blankoblanco
                      SBR MVP
                      • 11-18-11
                      • 3499

                      #11
                      Honestly the positive of this thread for Chipup is that he can learn that he has literally no ability to hand-read. Because, honestly, if you play this hand and can't figure out what probably happened, you are wasting your time playing poker. Holy fking moly. Go for a hobby that isn't poker, bro
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                      • sourtwist
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 11-10-12
                        • 9364

                        #12
                        Anyone know how to fukkin play poker?

                        Can't believe i opened this thread
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                        • Microbetter
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 09-12-13
                          • 589

                          #13
                          dlo folded cause he thought the other guy had an ace in the hole. 2 pair on board ace kicker win so many times. not collusion, just a surrender when he was prolly beat. stop accusing people of cheating this is poker 101.
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                          • JAKEPEAVY21
                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                            • 03-11-11
                            • 29306

                            #14
                            you are grasping for straws here chip

                            I could see if he put in a large % of his stack and then folded river but it was only about 25% of it
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                            • stevenash
                              Moderator
                              • 01-17-11
                              • 65602

                              #15
                              No collusion.
                              He bricked the flop if you ask me.
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                              • blankoblanco
                                SBR MVP
                                • 11-18-11
                                • 3499

                                #16
                                Originally posted by stevenash
                                No collusion.
                                He bricked the flop if you ask me.
                                Yes to no collusion. But he check/called turn and then folded river to a barely larger bet. He had either a draw or small pocket pair on the flop. POSSIBLY backdoor diamonds. Not a complete brick. This isn't rocket science
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                                • thetrinity
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 01-25-11
                                  • 22430

                                  #17
                                  holy hell

                                  theres MULTIPLE hands he could have

                                  and hes chip dumping round 3
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                                  • EmpireMaker
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 06-18-09
                                    • 15581

                                    #18
                                    Igor was allin river (takes bluffing out of the equation), Dlo couldn't call because he was bluffing/on a draw all the way and didn't even have a pair.
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                                    • Buzz Kill
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 04-10-18
                                      • 555

                                      #19
                                      No collusion.
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