World Cup Finals ODDS

[spider]

Let's not refund anything. I want to gamble!

How about we find an alternative way to settle, a tiebreaker? (this would be applied only to the two (three?) teams that score the highest of the group)

To be fair, I'll let you choose of the following two:
a) team with the most 1st place finishes wins (so 1st +3rd would beat 2nd+2nd)
or
b) team that makes the latest score of the day wins (if both score in the same tournament, obviously tiebreaker goes to the team who places first in that, the last of relevant tournaments of the day)

A) is more conventional (I remember the times when soccer used to award only 2 points for a win, but they switched to 3 points a decade ago)

B) is completely unbiased (and thus fair) because we still have half the tournaments to be played

Again, I just want to gamble. Feel free to check the completed tournaments but I'm sure you have better things to do The fact you get to choose the tiebreaker should show I am being straightforward here.

score the 3rd place finish with .5 (half) pt to break ties only.

[yisman]

score the 3rd place finish with .5 (half) pt to break ties only.

works for me.

[yisman]

1) Total points for Team USA in the FINAL 6 WEDNESDAY tournaments (6pm and on)

-150 Over 4.5, risk 150
+110 Under 4.5


2) Total points for Team Canada in the FINAL 6 WEDNESDAY tournaments (6pm and on)

-150 Over 4.5
+110 Under 4.5, risk 70


3) Total points for Team World in the FINAL 6 WEDNESDAY tournaments (6pm and on)

+140 Over 5.5
-220 Under 5.5

[Grivas_Digeni]

works for me.

me too!


10 minutes to get your bets in!

[Grivas_Digeni]

Gonna be a long day for the worst team in the Cup...

You know who I'm talking about, right Auto_Donk?

[Grivas_Digeni]

1) Total points for Team USA in the FINAL 6 WEDNESDAY tournaments (6pm and on)

-150 Over 4.5, risk 150
+110 Under 4.5


2) Total points for Team Canada in the FINAL 6 WEDNESDAY tournaments (6pm and on)

-150 Over 4.5
+110 Under 4.5, risk 70


3) Total points for Team World in the FINAL 6 WEDNESDAY tournaments (6pm and on)

+140 Over 5.5
-220 Under 5.5

Did you mean to bet Team World prop as well?

[yisman]

no world

[Grivas_Digeni]

No bets today. I will be paying Game Day 3 bets (and some of the tournament-long bets) later today.

If you are part of Team World and you did NOT receive a PM from me, please make sure to contact spider NOW

[Grivas_Digeni]

will pay everyone in the next 12 hours

thanks for your patience

[downsouth]

Did these get settled?

[JAKEPEAVY21]

Did these get settled?

nope

[USCPHILLYGUY]

nope

Jake did you win the heads up with Grivas?

[JAKEPEAVY21]

Jake did you win the heads up with Grivas?

no.

[Grivas_Digeni]

1) Total points for Team USA in the FINAL 6 WEDNESDAY tournaments (6pm and on)

-150 Over 4.5, risk 150
+110 Under 4.5


2) Total points for Team Canada in the FINAL 6 WEDNESDAY tournaments (6pm and on)

-150 Over 4.5
+110 Under 4.5, risk 70

Team USA scored 0, 2, 0, 0, 1, 2 from 6pm to 11pm on Wednesday. 5 points, you WIN
Team Canada scored 1, 0, 1, 2, 1, 0 from 6pm-11pm on Wednesday. 5 points, you lose

Paid 250

[Grivas_Digeni]

I assume max is still 100 per person


USA -170 Over 9.5, risk 170, 10 points, you WIN

Canada +110 Under 9.5, risk 100, 8 points, you WIN

World -150 Under 9.5, risk 150, 14 points, you lose

Confeds -220 Over 7.5, risk 110, 4 points, you lose

Sent 480 points (270+210)

[Grivas_Digeni]

5) dogracin (USA) vs snapperman2 (CAN)

-120 dogracin, risk 60

6) Grivas_Digeni (World) vs HomerSimpson2 (CAN)

+110 Grivas_Digeni, risk 100

7) pboozer57 (USA) vs sweethook (CONF)

-150 pboozer57, risk 60


you won all three player props, rather convincingly

Sent 420 points (110+210+100)


9) Losers prop:

Players of which 'team' will score most points combined during Game Day 3?

Team E: b1slickguy, mpaschal34
Team F: Dipper30, BeerDog99
Team G: slanina, GaryDN
Team H: Optional, ledsep26

+300 Team H (yankees), risk 80 (that they have most points)

Teams E and H scored a 2nd and a 1st place each, so they are tied. How do we settle this again?

[Grivas_Digeni]

Team E: b1slickguy, mpaschal34 +300 Team H (yankees)

Risk 24


Thanks for the bet.

-stash

Again, how do we settle this? Spider suggested a tiebreaker, I agreed without knowing exactly what he meant lol

[Grivas_Digeni]

confirmed....thanks for getting back to me.

Your first set was this

50 on each

#1 Field +150
#3 Confeds +250
#4 Team USA +900


And second:

1. Field plus +110
3. Confeds +160
4. Team USA +500
set was this

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Field wins... 50@+150 and 50@+110
Confeds loses
Team USA loses

shipped 230 bet points (125+105)

[Grivas_Digeni]

USA to win (-120) risk 240 to win 200

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USA higher over Confeds (-160) risk 320 to win200

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Easy win there. I owe you 520 on top of your loan (further details in PM, or just post the amount here somewhere). Thanks!

[Grivas_Digeni]

Please post here if you haven't been paid yet (except the tie-breaker 'losers match' situation)

[yisman]

Teams E and H scored a 2nd and a 1st place each, so they are tied. How do we settle this again?

third place finishes if we have those

[Grivas_Digeni]

Let's wait for spider; like I said I'm lost. What third place? My 'Teams' were made up of 2 players each (so yeah, ties were pretty likely)

[Grivas_Digeni]

USA to win (-120) risk 240 to win 200

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USA higher over Confeds (-160) risk 320 to win200

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These need to be settled, plus I owe 400 from the regular season bet you won... PM please and let's figure out the exact current number. I'll be playing omaha all weekend so hopefully no later than a week you're getting what's yours.

[spider]

Let's wait for spider; like I said I'm lost. What third place? My 'Teams' were made up of 2 players each (so yeah, ties were pretty likely)

my suggestion for a tiebreaker was 3rd place finish to count as half point, but it cannot apply in this case. this is a dead heat , exactly the same placings, so it should be refunded. sort of like in soccer, where they have a "draw no bet".

grivas in the future if you offer these kind of bets, in order to avoid ties, either make one side a half pt favorite or offer it as a "draw no bet".

[Grivas_Digeni]

my suggestion for a tiebreaker was 3rd place finish to count as half point, but it cannot apply in this case. this is a dead heat , exactly the same placings, so it should be refunded. sort of like in soccer, where they have a "draw no bet".

grivas in the future if you offer these kind of bets, in order to avoid ties, either make one side a half pt favorite or offer it as a "draw no bet".

Weird situation. I will wait to hear from both yisman and secretstash; he's right that it's unfair to just refund here, they both have +300 so they should profit a little.

And in the future I'll make this same team's NEXT DAY performance a tiebreaker, if it gets to that. If bet pushes on Wednesday, we'd wait until Thursday and see how same guys perform, and if it's tied after that... probably just make total team points (placement in the WC final standings) as an extra - though most likely unnecessary - tiebreaker.

[slikec]

I got all my bets settled thx for action

[secretstash]

Weird situation. I will wait to hear from both yisman and secretstash; he's right that it's unfair to just refund here, they both have +300 so they should profit a little.

And in the future I'll make this same team's NEXT DAY performance a tiebreaker, if it gets to that. If bet pushes on Wednesday, we'd wait until Thursday and see how same guys perform, and if it's tied after that... probably just make total team points (placement in the WC final standings) as an extra - though most likely unnecessary - tiebreaker.

I am not sure what is fair either, but I suppose whatever yisman says since he is more of a bookie would be what I would go with.

-stash

[Grivas_Digeni]

Sorry it's taking so long, I haven't considered this well enough before offering the odds. I'll just pay both of you at the full +300 odds, as if you won straight-up, immediately after my 15000 rollover is completed. ETA = 5-7 more days

[yisman]

dead heat rules in this case are half a win, half a loss

so half the stake is a winner at +300 and half is a loss

for example, if you bet 100:

you lose 50
the other 50 is a win, so you get back 50 and another 150

[yisman]

my suggestion for a tiebreaker was 3rd place finish to count as half point, but it cannot apply in this case. this is a dead heat , exactly the same placings, so it should be refunded. sort of like in soccer, where they have a "draw no bet".

grivas in the future if you offer these kind of bets, in order to avoid ties, either make one side a half pt favorite or offer it as a "draw no bet".

this is wrong. a push or draw no bet would be for a two way market
as discussed, this was a 4 way market

no one would refund bets made on the two losing options, which is why dead heat rules were created

[spider]

this is wrong. a push or draw no bet would be for a two way market
as discussed, this was a 4 way market

no one would refund bets made on the two losing options, which is why dead heat rules were created

totally agree.

[secretstash]

whats the story with this bet payout grivas?


-stash

[Grivas_Digeni]

whats the story with this bet payout grivas?


-stash

I remember but can't generate any points as of late. Thanks for reminding I just paid you