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  • SharpAngles
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 04-15-14
    • 9467

    #36
    Originally posted by astro61200
    Yes I did, I won the "rebuy*" on Sunday. The weekend tournaments tend to attract people that have some idea on how to play, so they're actually easier due to not having to worry as much that someone called off 40% of their stack, out of position, with 83 off. In the daily tournies they do this, and then chase down to the river for everything and end up hitting a straight due to runner runner. (at least that's what happens to me, I see the same people chase and miss consistently when in the hand against certain other players)
    Sorry pal but this is loser talk. Not that you're a loser, just this is the thinking of every poor player out there with the "move up to where they respect my raises" theory. Are you familiar with sklansky bucks? Look into that and see why you're winning even when you're losing chips. Start thinking of poker as a life long session that you take some breaks from in between for real life because you come off very results oriented. Worry about the end of the year not the end of the night.
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    • astro61200
      SBR MVP
      • 09-15-07
      • 4843

      #37
      Originally posted by SharpAngles
      Sorry pal but this is loser talk. Not that you're a loser, just this is the thinking of every poor player out there with the "move up to where they respect my raises" theory. Are you familiar with sklansky bucks? Look into that and see why you're winning even when you're losing chips. Start thinking of poker as a life long session that you take some breaks from in between for real life because you come off very results oriented. Worry about the end of the year not the end of the night.


      Alright. I've won the rebuy tournament 2 or 3 times now, and the high roller tournament 3 times. This is since I started playing again in May.

      I've won 2 daily tournaments. and played almost every day.

      So. There are a few things that could cause this. The higher chip stacks you start with in the weekend tournies (which I believe is the biggest thing, as it helps eliminate bingo), the fact that weekend tournaments require you to pay your points, thus no free entry (thus helping eliminate all of the landmind all-in donkfest J or better players), or that I'm getting really lucky on the weekend and I'm just awful during the week.

      And, no, it's not loser talk. It's the truth, if you aren't willing to see that then I could really careless about your opinion. The dailies are filled to the brim with people who really have no idea what they're doing. They join because it's free, they dish out bad beats because they have no idea what they're doing and don't understand the chances of hitting that gut shot for all your chips are very low. They don't want to pay their own points (or they don't have enough) for the weekend tournies, so they are not a factor.
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      • SharpAngles
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 04-15-14
        • 9467

        #38
        Originally posted by astro61200

        And, no, it's not loser talk. It's the truth, if you aren't willing to see that then I could really careless about your opinion. The dailies are filled to the brim with people who really have no idea what they're doing. They join because it's free, they dish out bad beats because they have no idea what they're doing and don't understand the chances of hitting that gut shot for all your chips are very low. They don't want to pay their own points (or they don't have enough) for the weekend tournies, so they are not a factor.

        Yeah I fkn hate it when my table is full of players who "have no idea what they're doing and don't understand the chances of hitting that gut shot for all your chips are very low"

        Seriously the worst! How dare they come to my poker table and make mistakes!

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        • astro61200
          SBR MVP
          • 09-15-07
          • 4843

          #39
          Originally posted by SharpAngles
          Yeah I fkn hate it when my table is full of players who "have no idea what they're doing and don't understand the chances of hitting that gut shot for all your chips are very low"

          Seriously the worst! How dare they come to my poker table and make mistakes!

          You must, as I have cashed once in 3 weeks in the dailies yet I am still ahead of you



          Haha I am kidding.. I am a fan of people playing however they want, if they want to only push all in or fold, or play every hand then go for it.

          The issue with those type of players in dailies is the blinds increase so quickly, along with the lower starting chips, it results in that you NEED to get a hand and you must hit if you have a few at your table. You can't bluff someone that doesn't know what they're doing, so it then turns in to waiting to hit and, if you don't, busting out or running into how I get out: Pushing with top hands and losing to the few better hands out there (which is why it annoys me so much, I'll play 5 hands the entire time before pushing and still run into a monster)
          Last edited by astro61200; 08-12-15, 03:50 PM.
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          • SharpAngles
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 04-15-14
            • 9467

            #40
            LOL Astro you seem like a good guy, so just stop burying yourself. Think about the hands you complain about (coin flips or being dominated mostly) and the logic you're using instead of fitting your results into some bad luck box. Just tryin to help pal.

            Also, congrats on being ahead of me last week when you "play every day" and I'm averaging 3 or 4 a week for the series. Unfortunately I've cashed a few times since and am currently ahead of you so obv I'm the superior player now
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            • astro61200
              SBR MVP
              • 09-15-07
              • 4843

              #41
              Originally posted by SharpAngles
              LOL Astro you seem like a good guy, so just stop burying yourself. Think about the hands you complain about (coin flips or being dominated mostly) and the logic you're using instead of fitting your results into some bad luck box. Just tryin to help pal.

              Also, congrats on being ahead of me last week when you "play every day" and I'm averaging 3 or 4 a week for the series. Unfortunately I've cashed a few times since and am currently ahead of you so obv I'm the superior player now
              The issue with this thread is I post when I'm on tilt

              But, hey, better to look like a sore loser/whiner by posting here on tilt than going and blowing all my points away at ring tables instead

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              • astro61200
                SBR MVP
                • 09-15-07
                • 4843

                #42
                I rest my case: Dumbasses who call down with absolutely nothing because they don't know any better because it's a free tournament. Yet they, magically, hit their shit.

                Didn't lose with this hand, but after this happened in the 4th hand of the tournament I realized theres no point in trying:

                ***** Hand history (v1.2) *****
                Hand ID 5242824
                $0 + $6 Texas Hold'em (No Limit) - 19:05:00 12/08/2015 ET
                Table 'Table 62573', 10 seats max, Real money
                Seat 7 is the button. Small Blind $10, Big Blind $20
                Note: seat IDs range from 1 to 10
                Seat 1 (playing) : astro61200, amount $1500, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
                Seat 2 (playing) : ShogunRua, amount $1500, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
                Seat 3 (playing) : Diesel79_eur, amount $3130, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
                Seat 4 (playing) : coylo, amount $1500, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
                Seat 5 (playing) : thechaoz, amount $1490, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
                Seat 6 (playing) : dogkatcher, amount $1540, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
                Seat 7 (playing) : kidk, amount $1420, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
                Seat 9 (playing) : Ra77er, amount $1420, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
                Ra77er: Small Blind ($10)
                astro61200: Big Blind ($20)
                ** Dealing Down Cards **
                Dealt to astro61200: [Qh, Qs]
                ShogunRua: Fold
                Diesel79_eur: Fold
                coylo: Fold
                thechaoz: Fold
                dogkatcher: Call ($20)
                kidk: Fold
                Ra77er: Fold
                astro61200: Raise [btn] ($80)
                dogkatcher: Call ($60)
                ** Dealing Flop **
                Community cards: [Kd, 4d, Kh]
                astro61200: Bet [btn] ($80)
                dogkatcher: Call ($80)
                ** Dealing Turn **
                Community cards: [3s]
                astro61200: Bet [btn] ($100)
                dogkatcher: Call ($100)
                ** Dealing River **
                Community cards: [5s]
                astro61200: Bet [btn] ($340)
                dogkatcher: Raise ($680)
                astro61200: Call [btn] ($340)
                ** End Round **
                ** Evaluate **
                dogkatcher: Show Cards ($0)
                astro61200: Muck ($0)
                ** Showdown **
                Main pot $1890, Rake $0
                Summary astro61200: bet $960, won $0, net $-960, HoleCards [Qh, Qs]
                Summary dogkatcher: bet $940, won $2570, net $1630, HoleCards [Ah, 2d], HiHand [a straight, ace to five] [5s, 4d, 3s, 2d, Ah], won $1890 from main pot


                Busted when I kept pushing and my Q9 ran into KQ.. though I did flop 2 pair with a board of A Q 9, but it's SBR so an ace came on turn to counterfeit my 9's and lose based on kicker (shocker!!!)

                So tired of hearing about variance, when I sit at a table with the people who preach it and they're constantly sucking out or managing not to get sucked out on. Yet I can't play 3 hands in a tourney without losing as a 90% favorite. Over and penetrating over.
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                • Ra77er
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 06-20-11
                  • 10969

                  #43
                  You go on tilt way too easy Astro.
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                  • astro61200
                    SBR MVP
                    • 09-15-07
                    • 4843

                    #44
                    Originally posted by Ra77er
                    You go on tilt way too easy Astro.
                    Probably haha

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                    • jung
                      SBR Rookie
                      • 12-18-14
                      • 16

                      #45
                      Originally posted by astro61200
                      I'm taking a break from poker after donking away 1.5k in points last night at the ring tables when I kept thinking that there's no way the people I'm facing can continue to hit, while simultaneously thinking there's no way I can continue to miss every flop.

                      Didn't work out so well for me. After hitting only 3 of my last 20 flops I decided to call it quits. There's only so much bluffing one can do before people catch on (especially heads up) and they're willing to call you down with bottom pair or an A or K.

                      I'll play the free tournies, and I'll track how I lose here.

                      I wasn't ahead too often preflop in most of these, most are just massive coolers with pp's over pp's, AQ behind while shortstacked, or coin flips that I lost
                      How many flops do u think u are supposed to hit? 3 out of 20 may be about average
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                      • downsouth
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 01-13-11
                        • 11580

                        #46
                        Originally posted by astro61200
                        I rest my case: Dumbasses who call down with absolutely nothing because they don't know any better because it's a free tournament. Yet they, magically, hit their shit.

                        Didn't lose with this hand, but after this happened in the 4th hand of the tournament I realized theres no point in trying:

                        ***** Hand history (v1.2) *****
                        Hand ID 5242824
                        $0 + $6 Texas Hold'em (No Limit) - 19:05:00 12/08/2015 ET
                        Table 'Table 62573', 10 seats max, Real money
                        Seat 7 is the button. Small Blind $10, Big Blind $20
                        Note: seat IDs range from 1 to 10
                        Seat 1 (playing) : astro61200, amount $1500, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
                        Seat 2 (playing) : ShogunRua, amount $1500, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
                        Seat 3 (playing) : Diesel79_eur, amount $3130, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
                        Seat 4 (playing) : coylo, amount $1500, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
                        Seat 5 (playing) : thechaoz, amount $1490, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
                        Seat 6 (playing) : dogkatcher, amount $1540, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
                        Seat 7 (playing) : kidk, amount $1420, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
                        Seat 9 (playing) : Ra77er, amount $1420, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
                        Ra77er: Small Blind ($10)
                        astro61200: Big Blind ($20)
                        ** Dealing Down Cards **
                        Dealt to astro61200: [Qh, Qs]
                        ShogunRua: Fold
                        Diesel79_eur: Fold
                        coylo: Fold
                        thechaoz: Fold
                        dogkatcher: Call ($20)
                        kidk: Fold
                        Ra77er: Fold
                        astro61200: Raise [btn] ($80)
                        dogkatcher: Call ($60)
                        ** Dealing Flop **
                        Community cards: [Kd, 4d, Kh]
                        astro61200: Bet [btn] ($80)
                        dogkatcher: Call ($80)
                        ** Dealing Turn **
                        Community cards: [3s]
                        astro61200: Bet [btn] ($100)
                        dogkatcher: Call ($100)
                        ** Dealing River **
                        Community cards: [5s]
                        astro61200: Bet [btn] ($340)
                        dogkatcher: Raise ($680)
                        astro61200: Call [btn] ($340)
                        ** End Round **
                        ** Evaluate **
                        dogkatcher: Show Cards ($0)
                        astro61200: Muck ($0)
                        ** Showdown **
                        Main pot $1890, Rake $0
                        Summary astro61200: bet $960, won $0, net $-960, HoleCards [Qh, Qs]
                        Summary dogkatcher: bet $940, won $2570, net $1630, HoleCards [Ah, 2d], HiHand [a straight, ace to five] [5s, 4d, 3s, 2d, Ah], won $1890 from main pot


                        Busted when I kept pushing and my Q9 ran into KQ.. though I did flop 2 pair with a board of A Q 9, but it's SBR so an ace came on turn to counterfeit my 9's and lose based on kicker (shocker!!!)

                        So tired of hearing about variance, when I sit at a table with the people who preach it and they're constantly sucking out or managing not to get sucked out on. Yet I can't play 3 hands in a tourney without losing as a 90% favorite. Over and penetrating over.
                        Why less than half pot on flop and then a third of pot on turn?
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                        • SharpAngles
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 04-15-14
                          • 9467

                          #47
                          Originally posted by downsouth
                          Why less than half pot on flop and then a third of pot on turn?
                          He needed material for this thread obv. Hows the donk gonna suck out if you bet too much on the flop?
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                          • daneblazer
                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                            • 09-14-08
                            • 27861

                            #48
                            Some guys just lose when they wake up in the morning. At least you need outside forces to do it
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                            • downsouth
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 01-13-11
                              • 11580

                              #49
                              Originally posted by SharpAngles
                              He needed material for this thread obv. Hows the donk gonna suck out if you bet too much on the flop?

                              Yeah, I guess you got to invite them to chase you down.

                              Funny stuff Dane
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