World Cup Poker Team Betting

[Triple_D_Bet]

Odds:

Team	To Win	To Lose	Last	Not Last
USA	+180	-288	+270	-310
Canada	+220	-324	+245	-285
World	+290	-390	+205	-245
Confeds	+230	-329	+230	-275

Max to win on dog: 500
Max wager on favorite: 1000

Action closes at 11:59 AM Eastern Monday.

As always, point stiffs are not allowed to wager. Post up for confirmation (except try, yis, downsouth or others as confirmed).

[ArunSh]

I'll take 1000 to win 347 on USA to lose (hedging against us, little consolation prize to me if we don't win!)

[Triple_D_Bet]

I'll take 1000 to win 347 on USA to lose (hedging against us, little consolation prize to me if we don't win!)

Confirmed, obviously not wishing you good luck

[GUMMO77]

800 points on World -180 Not to Finish Last

[ArunSh]

Confirmed, obviously not wishing you good luck

Yes this is one bet I definitely want to lose myself! GL to our team for sure.

[bobbywaves]

Max win 1,000, or max risk 1,000 on favorite?

[bobbywaves]

Risk 1,000, USA not last -410

[Triple_D_Bet]

800 points on World -180 Not to Finish Last

Confirmed...Gummo sharp, made me look and realize I'd copied the wrong column for spreadsheet

[Triple_D_Bet]

Max win 1,000, or max risk 1,000 on favorite?

Max risk 1000 on favorite.

Risk 1,000, USA not last -410

Confirmed, got it in as I was editing updated odds

[bobbywaves]

USA not last odds changed to -310?

[Triple_D_Bet]

USA not last odds changed to -310?

Yup...will give it to you at updated price of -310, so 1000 to win 323

[GUMMO77]

Confirmed...Gummo sharp, made me look and realize I'd copied the wrong column for spreadsheet

You want to change it? Meet in the middle?

No hard feelings.

[Triple_D_Bet]

You want to change it? Meet in the middle?

No hard feelings.

Nah, that "bad line" shit has always just seemed like an excuse for books to be lazy, won't get it from me...bet's good

[vladfan]

Confeds to lose -329 Risk 1000 win 304

[BeerDog99]

500 for Canada to win +220 odds.

[BiTeMe UsAdOj]

Volatile format but FUK IT... gonna put my pts where my heart is.

Max on TEAM USA to TO WIN, baby!


Wishing all my teammates GOOD LUCK & 2pts a pop... even YOU, bobby!

Let's get er done

[Auto Donk]

Insurance/consolation prize bet: 2000 on confeds to lose (at -329)

[Auto Donk]

another insurance, consolation bet...... 1000 on USA to win at +180.... good luck, dickweeds; take it down and I get paid......

[yisman]

USA not last -310
Canada not last -285
Confeds not last -275

I'll take the max on all of them

Can I do to win 1000 each?

[Triple_D_Bet]

USA not last -310
Canada not last -285
Confeds not last -275

I'll take the max on all of them

Can I do to win 1000 each?

Sure, risking 8700 total, sent 300 back.

For everyone else, so far all bets over limits are confirmed, let's have some fun

[bobbywaves]

Yup...will give it to you at updated price of -310, so 1000 to win 323

Ok thanks...was wondering why odds went down instead of up after my bet.

[Triple_D_Bet]

Paid USA not last bets, as it's mathematically impossible for USA to get last at this point.

Good luck fellas, and let's see some teams tie for last place...it's the only way I come out ahead in this betting

[yisman]

Paid USA not last bets, as it's mathematically impossible for USA to get last at this point.

Good luck fellas, and let's see some teams tie for last place...it's the only way I come out ahead in this betting

not sure how it works anyway

if two tied for last, wouldn't it be considered half last/half not-last?

otherwise if 3 tied for last place and people bet on all 3 to finish last, you'd have to pay out on all 3?

the books have rules for this for golf, where if two tie for 10th, it's like half the wager finished 10th and half finished 11th

[ArunSh]

One of the few bets I was very glad to lose, thanks Triple, USA baby!!!!!!!!!

[Triple_D_Bet]

not sure how it works anyway

if two tied for last, wouldn't it be considered half last/half not-last?

otherwise if 3 tied for last place and people bet on all 3 to finish last, you'd have to pay out on all 3?

the books have rules for this for golf, where if two tie for 10th, it's like half the wager finished 10th and half finished 11th

I had assumed a tie for last is last, whether bet was on last or not last. If there's an established practice though, probably better to go with that. Gee thanks yis, now I have even less hope

[Auto Donk]

I had assumed a tie for last is last, whether bet was on last or not last. If there's an established practice though, probably better to go with that. Gee thanks yis, now I have even less hope

did sbr state any tiebreakers for positions, or are they choppin? if there's a tiebreaker by sbr, I think it governs. If not i'd interpret as you see fit, tripe... .didn't u say something about your word being final say.... if they bet "nonlast" and their team finished last and there's no tiebraker, both non-last bets are losers, the way I see it.

[yisman]

http://www.5dimes.eu/sb_rules.html

In a "dead heat", two or more competitors are joint winners in a race or contest. For wagering purposes, the wagered amount on a selection is divided by the number of competitors involved in the dead heat (divided stake) and multiplied by the number of paying positions in question. The divided stake gets paid the full odds of the original selection. The remainder of the stake is a loser.

Straight Bet selected on Ogivly TOP 10 +350, for $100. Scenario #1: Two golfers – including Ogivly – tie for 10th place. The risk amount ($100) is divided by 2 as there are only 2 golfers sharing one same paying position (10th place). In this case, half of the stake ($50) gets paid full odds, and the other half ($50 as well) is lost. $50 on Ogivly +350 wins $175, for a total credit of $225. A bet on any other golfer for TOP 10 that is not tied in 10th place, but yet a winner, will pay full odds for the whole amount wagered. Scenario #2: Five golfers – including Ogivly – tie for 10th place. The risk amount ($100) is divided by the number of competitors involved in the "dead heat" (5 golfers) = $20 (divided stake) and multiplied by the number of paying positions (there is only one paying position as it is the last place in which 5 golfers are tied). The remainder $80 of the risk amount are lost. The divided stake gets paid full odds of the wager as if originally the bet was only for $20. $20 on Ogivly +350 pays $70 to win, for a total credit of $90. A bet on any other golfer for TOP 10 that is not tied in 10th place, but yet a winner, will pay full odds for the whole amount wagered. Scenario #3: Five golfers – including Ogivly – tie for 8th place. The risk amount ($100) is divided by the number of competitors involved in the "dead heat" (5 golfers) = $20 (divided stake) and multiplied by the number of paying positions (3: 8th, 9th & 10th) = $60. The wager amount to be paid at full odds is $60. The remainder $40 of the risk amount are lost. $60 on Ogivly + 350 pays $210 to win, for a total credit of $270. A bet on any other golfer for TOP 10 that is not tied in 8th place, but yet a winner, will pay full odds for the whole amount wagered.

[Triple_D_Bet]

did sbr state any tiebreakers for positions, or are they choppin? if there's a tiebreaker by sbr, I think it governs. If not i'd interpret as you see fit, tripe... .didn't u say something about your word being final say.... if they bet "nonlast" and their team finished last and there's no tiebraker, both non-last bets are losers, the way I see it.

My word is final here as with any contest or betting I run. I had assumed tied for last was still last at full odds either way, but that's because I didn't know there was a precedent for similar situations. Now that I know, I think it's only fair to do it the way it's commonly done, even if it costs me a couple pizzas

[yisman]

books have to do it this way because it's not uncommon to have 5+ guys tied for 10th

if they paid them all at full odds for the top 10 bet

if you think about it, it's logical. If two tie for 3rd/4th and you have wagers on positions, you can't have no third place or no 4th place. So it's split as if they finished half 3rd and half 4th.

[Triple_D_Bet]

books have to do it this way because it's not uncommon to have 5+ guys tied for 10th

if they paid them all at full odds for the top 10 bet

if you think about it, it's logical. If two tie for 3rd/4th and you have wagers on positions, you can't have no third place or no 4th place. So it's split as if they finished half 3rd and half 4th.

Yup, makes a lot of sense to me

[Triple_D_Bet]

All USA win and others lose bets paid since USA has it in the bag. Only a couple of ""XXX Team Last" bets to grade.

Poker forum too sharp

[GUMMO77]

Are these your numbers?

USA- 46
Canada- 31
World-28
Confederates-27

[BiTeMe UsAdOj]

TY Tripster!



p.s. -- ATTENTION: DONKER -- I'm sending that hundo for our bet today in your above post ^^

[Triple_D_Bet]

Are these your numbers?

USA- 46
Canada- 31
World-28
Confederates-27

Yup, thats what I've got so far

[Triple_D_Bet]

TY Tripster!



p.s. -- ATTENTION: DONKER -- I'm sending that hundo for our bet today in your above post ^^

No problem...next time I'm gonna have to be more strict about enforcing betting limits, you guys too good