Covers now ranking sportsbooks. Their top 3 are...(from 11-03-08)

[pjesnik24]

In other words, go out of business in order to appease people who are not going anywhere?

why is that? they earn money from at lest 50 different bookies so if they return all the money from BI and I mean all peoples money might trust them again.
I do not care about their ratings anymore for ew years already. bookmaker A+ and sbobet A- LOL. betislands B and interwettent C lol

[Dark Horse]

John, Covers never even claimed to be in the ranking business. Your whole business here is based on it.

Beted/Covers = Betislands/SBR

What are you going to do about it? Just about as much as Covers?

[SBR_John]

John, Covers never even claimed to be in the ranking business. Your whole business here is based on it.

Beted/Covers = Betislands/SBR

What are you going to do about it? Just about as much as Covers?

We don't guarantee any sportsbook or sponsor or even A+ rated books much less lower rated ones. If we touted BI as an A+ book that would be a scam. But I think BI was fairly rated at a B. They were a forum sweetheart that beat out several A+ books in the poster poll and placed 5th. I don't believe we over hyped them or over rated them but we are certainly at fault for not recognizing they were on the road to ruins.

[Chi_archie]

apples and oranges comparison between the two situations

[darkhat]

it obviously sucks what happened, but everyone knows the risks involved

tomorrow 5dimes or bookmaker could be seized or run

chances are taken in offshore gambling

a book could be great one minute a bust the next

Regardless if anyone thinks SBR was involved

everyone should just be reminded to not post up more than they are willing to get screwed out of

[Dark Horse]

everyone should just be reminded to not post up more than they are willing to get screwed out of

That's just BS. The general idea is that you don't bet - in a single bet - more than you're willing to lose. No idea where these ideas became confused, but to suggest you're willing to lose whatever you're depositing makes no sense at all.

[boeing power]

it obviously sucks what happened, but everyone knows the risks involved

tomorrow 5dimes or bookmaker could be seized or run

chances are taken in offshore gambling

a book could be great one minute a bust the next

Regardless if anyone thinks SBR was involved

everyone should just be reminded to not post up more than they are willing to get screwed out of

You were one the biggest BI shills,

You should shut the Fuk up.

[BranchDavidian]

Also Covers had them ranked top when they were known not to pay all of its players....SBR had no idea..they had the right intentions I'm sure.

If SBR had no idea a month after other sites told about BI financial difficulties, what good are they?

[Dark Horse]

We don't guarantee any sportsbook or sponsor or even A+ rated books much less lower rated ones. If we touted BI as an A+ book that would be a scam. But I think BI was fairly rated at a B. They were a forum sweetheart that beat out several A+ books in the poster poll and placed 5th. I don't believe we over hyped them or over rated them but we are certainly at fault for not recognizing they were on the road to ruins.

You're going to hide behind poster polls? lol. That's the world inside out, upside down. Let's talk about your ratings. The only thing your ratings meant, until this fiasco, relate to financial security. That was good enough for me. But now they don't even mean that. How can you confuse a F book for a B book? This stuff is so close to home for you that there is just no excuse to not have known the real deal. Why do you think people deposited at this book? They trusted the connection between BI and SBR.

This book was developed and grown at your site, by a guy that you know. Everybody in the industry knows this. I was telling people at an A book that the situation is similar to Beted/Covers, and they go 'no, it's exactly the same!' This one is on you John, and for you to solve in a manner that is satisfactory to every player that was cheated by that lowlife piece of crap.

And now he's off pulling his sh*t at another book (7redsports). Have you read bubba's account? Most of us are out 4 figures (that we demand back). That guy is out 50K. For most people that's a life changing amount. That's on you, John. For some reason this became the perfect storm where the entire story hinges on SBR. There is no sidestepping this one. So step up.

[BranchDavidian]

"I respect them plenty. I just don't understand how or why they would do this. Its obvious they sell their rankings but why? Do they think players are that stupid??

In the end it will haunt them just like everyone else that has tried this. Its not just bad business its dumb business imo. In the past they have only used banners and not tried to offer information."

"It's one thing to list who pays the bills IMO. It can be useful info to see who has the cash to pay that kind of bill. It's another to give information that you know is not true and players will soon find out for themselves." Bill, it looks like you sold your rating to BI. If not, why won't you tell who these well respected backers were that you verified?

[hels]

The SBR brass salooned the thread asking why betonline has a B+ rating. They don't want to answer because the truth is betonline pays SBR off so they just hope it gets forgotten about.

betonline is stiffing at least 2 players on payouts right now with the typical "the cheque will be sent tomorrow" "it takes a week to get a tracking number" "we'll send it to the financial department in 48 hours" "we'll call you this afternoon"

SBR bases their rating on who pays them the most.

John had the right idea back in 2008 laughing at covers for taking bribes.

[tto827]

Darkhorse, if Pinny folded tomorrow because their financial backer pulled out without any prior knowledge, would you blame SBR?

I think what John stated is accurate, they are responsible for not sniffing this out and downgrading sooner, but sometimes shit hits the fan fast and everyone is playing catch-up.

[darkhat]

You were one the biggest BI shills,

You should shut the Fuk up.

i liked them yes

it is my fault people lost money

you should trust your money decisions based on an anonymous guy with a zooey deschanel avatar

[MadTiger]

This is why Consumer Reports or any similar business doesn't take so much as a gift card from the companies they review. CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

Didn't need B-school for that.

(But Zooey is fine. I understand the dilemma.)

[wantitall4moi]

Darkhorse, if Pinny folded tomorrow because their financial backer pulled out without any prior knowledge, would you blame SBR?

I think what John stated is accurate, they are responsible for not sniffing this out and downgrading sooner, but sometimes shit hits the fan fast and everyone is playing catch-up.

LMAO taking a page from Shari's book.

Pinnacle has been around a decade, they closed a vast majority of their US based accounts in 2007, they paid out MILLIONs within a month of doing so. I should know I had 6 accounts there with a decent 6 figures combined in them. That didnt include credit players who also got paid.

To try and compare Pinnacle to bet Islands is as stupid a thing as I have read in this thread.

I want to know how many people post on your handle though, you have more posts in 2 months than I have in two years.

[tto827]

LMAO taking a page from Shari's book.

Pinnacle has been around a decade, they closed a vast majority of their US based accounts in 2007, they paid out MILLIONs within a month of doing so. I should know I had 6 accounts there with a decent 6 figures combined in them. That didnt include credit players who also got paid.

To try and compare Pinnacle to bet Islands is as stupid a thing as I have read in this thread.

I want to know how many people post on your handle though, you have more posts in 2 months than I have in two years.

Just one. Explain how it is different, if a financial backer pulls out, there isn't much anyone can do. And if that backer didn't tell anyone, is SBR supposed to read minds?

[nosniboR11]

SBR has to change there name

they do not care about the books ratings as much anymore, that is why they did not know BI was fixing to steal money, until it was too late. Too busy doing other things, which is great but dont try to play us as fools.

SBR is a good place to visit and bs with others but if you trust anything then get ready for the ride.

[avanbarksdale]

darker is dark horse related to u?

[dmtrader]

You're going to hide behind poster polls? lol. That's the world inside out, upside down. Let's talk about your ratings. The only thing your ratings meant, until this fiasco, relate to financial security. That was good enough for me. But now they don't even mean that. How can you confuse a F book for a B book? This stuff is so close to home for you that there is just no excuse to not have known the real deal. Why do you think people deposited at this book? They trusted the connection between BI and SBR. .

In this economic environment - things can happen very fast. You don't feel the pain when a US bank fails, because the FDIC seizes the failed bank, and the next day it is open again, under a new name and FDIC management (to be sold later to another presumably more financially solvent bank). There is no FDIC insurance for off shore sports books. Caveat emptor to those who deposit there.

Have you read bubba's account? Most of us are out 4 figures (that we demand back). That guy is out 50K. For most people that's a life changing amount.

If you have that much in an off shore account, you should be sophisticated enough to know the risks. I'm sorry for anyone who lost their $, but it is also an expensive lesson in financial management.

[GamblerSpirit]

Covers is a fraud so are people that run and work there

They sold out and take anyone, someone told me they take any book for the right fee

SBR has already caught covers, are all forums frauds now except SBR?

with time, everything will be exposed.

[SamDiamond]

We don't guarantee any sportsbook or sponsor or even A+ rated books much less lower rated ones. If we touted BI as an A+ book that would be a scam. But I think BI was fairly rated at a B. They were a forum sweetheart that beat out several A+ books in the poster poll and placed 5th. I don't believe we over hyped them or over rated them but we are certainly at fault for not recognizing they were on the road to ruins.

John. Seriously? You're using "Poster Polls"?

Oh my god.

[ZetaPsi808]

John. Seriously? You're using "Poster Polls"?

Oh my god.

[cutter2225]

Darkhorse, if Pinny folded tomorrow because their financial backer pulled out without any prior knowledge, would you blame SBR?

I think what John stated is accurate, they are responsible for not sniffing this out and downgrading sooner, but sometimes shit hits the fan fast and everyone is playing catch-up.

There's the problem. Most believe SBR had prior knowledge of BetIslands doom and continued leading folks here to believe everything was status quo, getting fat on the payments while ultimately leaving everyone up the creek without the proverbial paddle.

[tto827]

There's the problem. Most believe SBR had prior knowledge of BetIslands doom and continued leading folks here to believe everything was status quo, getting fat on the payments while ultimately leaving everyone up the creek without the proverbial paddle.

Understood. But personally I don't think you should rail SBR like some posters are until that is seen to be true.

[darkhat]

darker is dark horse related to u?

no but i hope i am related to you since you are an avan barksdale fan

i hate the marlo crew

avon knew how to run balitmore

[BigDeem5]

The question to ask is here is this ---- Are the top recommended SBR books giving SBR money?

Don't give me indirectly, but it isn't for ranking..


Are 5 Dimes, Bookmaker, and others A or A+ books giving SBR money?

I believe answer is yes. So if business becomes fishy, this can be the fall back

[tto827]

The question to ask is here is this ---- Are the top recommended SBR books giving SBR money?

Don't give me indirectly, but it isn't for ranking..


Are 5 Dimes, Bookmaker, and others A or A+ books giving SBR money?

I believe answer is yes. So if business becomes fishy, this can be the fall back

Obviously they are. They have banners hanging up top, SBR doesn't just give that space away.

[sando]

Darkhorse, if Pinny folded tomorrow because their financial backer pulled out without any prior knowledge, would you blame SBR?

I think what John stated is accurate, they are responsible for not sniffing this out and downgrading sooner, but sometimes shit hits the fan fast and everyone is playing catch-up.

Explain how it is different, if a financial backer pulls out, there isn't much anyone can do. And if that backer didn't tell anyone, is SBR supposed to read minds?

You talk but the words have no meaning. Just stop. Comparing fraudulent BetIslands to the #1 online sportsbook in the world.

[darkhat]

Obviously they are. They have banners hanging up top, SBR doesn't just give that space away.

i almost answered this when he asked

but i was like he has to be joking around

no way it is a real question, but it def is

[tto827]

You talk but the words have no meaning. Just stop. Comparing fraudulent BetIslands to the #1 online sportsbook in the world.

Okay, so replace Pinny with Bovada, now answer my question.

[tto827]

i almost answered this when he asked

but i was like he has to be joking around

no way it is a real question, but it def is

Way too long of a post to be sarcastic, definitely a serious question.