Friends dad worked ladder 47 died saving lives
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You dont understand a fukkin thing blondie... If one of your best friends died on 9/11 then u can talk to me...until then you can pound arab rooster too....I LIVED THIS!!!! God rest your sole Randy!!!!!!Comment -
I was waking up for a Political Science class when my roommates were watching the news and the coverage of the first plane hitting. Then, I watched live as the second plane hit and later when the towers crumbled. Holy fukking shit. You can't ever forget that.
That being said...
Blind patriotism is just as dangerous as religious extremism.
One does not justify nor eradicate the other.Comment -
God bless America my home sweet homeComment -
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Originally Posted by MonkeyF0cker
Blind patriotism is just as dangerous as religious extremism.Comment -
dont all rush to outdo each other with anecdotes and sentimental thoughts and pictures
and conspiracy quotes and what not
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You are right. On per capita, US can not compete with countries like Hong Kong, Singapore, etc on a lot of issues. But I am sure US is far away the #1 among the nations whose donations making significant difference. This is not even counting the loss of lives from US.
Some people complained about blinded patriotism. I am sure some do, but today is the day that Americans should express their patriotism loudly, just like any other countries on their national day or any day of similar significance.Comment -
Engine 4---my friend, RIP as the hero that you were. facing danger right in the face and not turning your back on the vulnerable.Comment -
I think we should be celebrating the lives of those that were lost and the gratitude that we have for those who so bravely came to the rescue. I don't think it needs to be made a symbol of pure patriotism. It should be remembered as a symbol of the human condition - something that all of us in the world (not limited to invisible borders) must overcome.Comment -
Hey Bi-Archie.....
Are you talking like when you first came back from being banned and your GayLive buddy sideloaded made that thread laughing about 9-11 and mocking the victims?
Remember how you posted in his thread supporting him?
Remember the pics he posted of the towers burning and you responded "good stuff, sideloaded"?
Is that what you consider "opening your mind", you ungrateful, disrespectful prikk??Comment -
watching Restropo for the 3rd time again tonight on Netflix
powerful, kid from our church was in that movie
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Not always Monkey.Comment -
God Bless and never forgetComment -
Land of the free because of the braveComment -
9/11 FACT SHEET
Answers to Frequently Asked Questions
1. Don't all the high-level officials agree on what happened on 9/11?
No. Numerous present and former high-level military leaders and politicians have questioned the administration's version of 9/11.
2. Isn't 9/11 a partisan political issue, where extremists in one party are simply trying to smear the other party for political gain?
No, credible people from across the political spectrum question 9/11, including prominent conservatives, prominent liberals, and prominent centrists.
3. Isn't it disrespectful to the victims of 9/11 and their families to question the events of that day?
No. Many of the families of the victims question the official story and are demanding that the truth be disclosed. The same is true of many dying heroes - the first responders who worked tirelessly to save lives on and after 9/11 - and are soon to become victims of the 9/11 attacks themselves. See this article.
4. Isn't it clear that Muslims carried out 9/11, and the war on terror is a clash of civilizations and religions? Therefore, isn't 9/11 skepticism harmful to our faith? And aren't the people questioning 9/11 anti-Semites?
Actually, 9/11 truth is a vital issue for all people of faith. That is why prominent Christian theologians state that 9/11 was an inside job.
Moreover, many people of Jewish faith question 9/11. Indeed, prominent Jewish scholars and rabbis say that uncovering the truth of 9/11 has the power to bring positive, lasting change to our nation and to our world.
5. Isn't this kind of thinking really a psychological problem?
Not at all. Some very prominent psychologists question the government's version of 9/11.
6. Aren't conspiracy theories anti-American, and isn't all the questioning of 9/11 part of what's wrong with America today?
Questioning our government is part of what it means to be a patriot and to love your country. People who question 9/11 are patriots who love their country.
7. Doesn't questioning 9/11 distract from much more important issues facing America today?
On the contrary, it is one of the very most important issues facing our country, and is closely connected with other problems we face.
8. But the government would NEVER hurt its own people. At least not intentionally.
Actually, the U.S. government -- and many other Western governments -- have done so before. Initially, the Joint Chiefs of Staff actually approved a plan to carry out terrorist attacks and kill U.S. citizens and blame it on Cuba, as a justification for invading Cuba. And a government informant has stated that he tried to stop the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, but that the FBI intentionally let the bombing happen . There are many other examples of other governments killing their own people for political gain, and the U.S. government killing its own as well.
As additional examples of the U.S. government letting U.S. citizens die based upon deceptions, many people breathed in highly toxic dust near ground zero, after the government knowingly misrepresented the risk, going as far as discouraging first responders from wearing masks. The U.S. government also misled the American people into the Iraqi war, causing thousands of American deaths.
9. Terrorists crashing planes into the World Trade Center and Pentagon was wholly unexpected in 2001, wasn't it?
No, it was not unexpected.
10. But there is always confusion in any battle situation. Wasn't it the "fog of war" which prevented a successful response to the 9/11 attacks?
It was not the fog of war. Instead, it was the multiple war games, including hijack exercises involving real planes, and the injection of fake radar blips onto air traffic controller's screenswhich prevented the good people in the military from stopping the attacks from succeeding against their targets in New York and at the Pentagon. The dedicated people in the U.S. military were tricked and betrayed, so that they could not do their job.
11. Wouldn't a huge conspiracy involving thousands of people have been necessary to carry out 9/11, and wouldn't someone have spilled the beans by now if there really was a conspiracy?
Not necessarily. In fact, a small handful of people could have pulled it off.
12. Let's get back to the government's failure to stop or intercept the attacks. If the U.S. government wasn't perfect in stopping the 9/11 attacks, wasn't it due to a series of innocent mistakes or -- at the very worst -- incompetence?
Initially, the incompetence argument doesn't really pan out, and appearances may be deceiving. And there are many examples of the U.S. faking intelligence in order to promote its political goals.
Moreover, the government has not acted like it is trying to close vulnerabilities or fix problems which supposedly were unforeseeable before 9/11. Why wouldn't such vulnerabilities be corrected if they were the real cause of 9/11?
And there has been a clear government cover-up of the facts surrounding 9/11. Why would the government work so hard to cover up the true facts of 9/11, going so far as to repeatedly misrepresent the facts and change its story, if incompetence was the only problem with the official story?
And, apparently, fake evidence was planted to implicate certain people for 9/11. Why would fake evidence be needed if the official story was true? Do innocent people plant fake evidence?
13. Didn't a government agency come clean about its mistaken timeline, solving the whole 9/11 "conspiracy" once and for all?
Norad's newest "confession" is just the latest of multiple, completely conflicting versions of what happened on 9/11 (also listen to this interview).
Moreover, the latest statements by the military simply attempt to scapegoat one government agency, since the previous attempts to blame other agencies made no sense.
14. Isn't talk about "demolition" of the Twin Towers just a crazy theory by a couple of nutty people?
In fact, a lot of credible eyewitness testimony supports this theory, and more and more credible experts are discussing this theory every day.
15. But no one could have planted all of the explosives needed to bring down the Twin Towers without people noticing, right?
No, that is not true.
16. If rogue elements within the U.S. government did cause 9/11, why would they have used bombs to bring down the Twin Towers, when crashing planes into the buildings would have been sufficient to act as a "Pearl Harbor" type justification for war?
Apparently, for its shock and awe effect, which made for a very overwhelmed, afraid, and thus docile and compliant population.
17. If the government's account of 9/11 is not accurate, wouldn't the media have been "all over it"? Isn't the fact that most mainstream media sources don't spend much time covering these questions show there's nothing there?
No. Even well-known news anchors and writers say that self-censorship, censorship by editors and producers, and pressure from the government means that many important stories are not being covered. 9/11 is one of those stories.
18. I've heard claims made by the so-called "9/11 Truth Movement" which have turned out to be false. Doesn't that invalidate the whole 9/11 thing?
No, for two reasons. First, there are so many lines of evidence which overwhelmingly prove that 9/11 was an inside job, that even if one or two theories are disproven, the basic thesis still stands.
Moreover, there are some people who are simply sloppy in their thinking, and who throw out unfounded theories which do not stand up under scrutiny. In addition, there are, unfortunately, disruptive people who are working hard to make crazy claims to intentionally discredit the movement. This is a traditional tactic for undermining those who question the government.Comment -
Pauly your saying the government did all this just to invade afghanistan?Comment -
Pauly....you seem like an enlightened man.
But half those links cite a dilapidated unknown blog from 2008.....
-Majority (3/4?) of the continued links are broken.....
Do you even read your own copy/pastes?
I'm positive a man of your intellectual capabilities did not ACTUALLY read them all......and then decided to post that drivel. You'd be a fool.
Stop regurgitating the cynical reddit bullsh*t..... and post a cited opinion of your own. This isn't amateur hour.....
As an airline Captain with ties to 9/11 crew ....I assure you..... It was real people in real planes that were sent into buildings.
Get a clue.....Comment -
18. I've heard claims made by the so-called "9/11 Truth Movement" which have turned out to be false. Doesn't that invalidate the whole 9/11 thing?
No, for two reasons. First, there are so many lines of evidence which overwhelmingly prove that 9/11 was an inside job, that even if one or two theories are disproven, the basic thesis still stands.
Moreover, there are some people who are simply sloppy in their thinking, and who throw out unfounded theories which do not stand up under scrutiny. In addition, there are, unfortunately, disruptive people who are working hard to make crazy claims to intentionally discredit the movement. This is a traditional tactic for undermining those who question the government.Comment
