How Bad Is Palmer???????

[Goat Milk]

palmer can't throw past 20 yards.

guy is a straight bum

[jjgold]

easy money

[crustyme]

palmer can't throw past 20 yards.

guy is a straight bum

palmer was among league leaders in completions over 20 yds, you fukin moron.

[Goat Milk]

palmer was among league leaders in completions over 20 yds, you fukin moron.

as in pass 3 yards to your rb or a 5 yard flare to your wr and they do the running. oak has some of the fastest players in the league. palmer can't complete a pass past 25 yards. thanks.

[hockey216]

palmer was among league leaders in completions over 20 yds, you fukin moron.

he also threw more interceptions than touchdowns last year. palmer throws lots of picks.

last year he threw 16 interceptions and only 13 touchdowns

[crustyme]

sure. if you say so goat semen.

dumbass

[crustyme]

he also threw more interceptions than touchdowns last year. palmer throws lots of picks.

last year he threw 16 interceptions and only 13 touchdowns

he threw 3 ints when he was forced into action only a few days after he became a raider. another 3 in his first start. you dont really believe you can grasp a whole new offense in a few days do you????

he did have one awful game in gb where he threw 4 but that game was already long over when he started slinging it.

but he was among league leaders in yds, tds, yds per pass, comp%, comps over 20yds, etc.

[Goat Milk]

sure. if you say so goat semen.

dumbass

yup i'm the dumbass that took SD while you told me my pick validated a Huge raiders play. Just like my atl pick validated KC for you and my pats pick validated Tenn for you.

Looks like you and palmer both had a horrible day. Wake me up when Palmer throws a TD. Wait he can only throw 12 yard passes.

[crustyme]

im 50-2 fading you in players talk, goatboy.

so u winning a measely game means nothing.

[rm18]

his best wr is h bey

he's not doing bad, its the long snapper

all 3 guys wrong injured rookie Jaron Criner is their best

[crustyme]

wake up lil goat bitch.... touchdown.

[hockey216]

he threw 3 ints when he was forced into action only a few days after he became a raider. another 3 in his first start. you dont really believe you can grasp a whole new offense in a few days do you????

he did have one awful game in gb where he threw 4 but that game was already long over when he started slinging it.

but he was among league leaders in yds, tds, yds per pass, comp%, comps over 20yds, etc.

his interception numbers have always been high. his TD:int ratio is worse than brett favres. the interceptions weren't just last year. they are every year.

when you say "among league leaders" in all those categories... do you include 15th place? 17th place? 24th place?

[hockey216]

Palmers QB rating has always been dismal as well.

[hockey216]

Regular Season Passing Stats
SEASON	TEAM	GP	CMP	ATT	CMP%	YDS	AVG	TD	LNG	INT	FUM	QBR	RAT
2004	CIN	13	263	432	60.9	2,897	6.71	18	76	18	2	--	77.3
2005	CIN	16	345	509	67.8	3,836	7.54	32	70	12	4	--	101.1
2006	CIN	16	324	520	62.3	4,035	7.76	28	74	13	13	--	93.9
2007	CIN	16	373	575	64.9	4,131	7.18	26	70	20	4	--	86.7
2008	CIN	4	75	129	58.1	731	5.67	3	36	4	2	48.6	69.0
2009	CIN	16	282	466	60.5	3,094	6.64	21	73	13	3	53.1	83.6
2010	CIN	16	362	586	61.8	3,970	6.78	26	78	20	3	43.5	82.4
2011	OAK	10	199	328	60.7	2,753	8.39	13	78	16	1	62.6	80.5

[crustyme]

his interception numbers have been high. his TD:int ratio is worse than brett favres. the interceptions weren't just last year. they are every year.

when you say "among league leaders" in all those categories... do you include 15th place? 17th place? 24th place?

im talking about since he became a starter. you didnt really think i was comparing someone who started just 9 games to those who started all 16?????

eli led the nfl in ints and so did rivers... does that make them awful qbs?

[Goat Milk]

palmer the type of qb that will go

28/36, 144 yards, 0 tds, 1 pick six to the house

[GunShard]

In the NFL 2013 draft, with their 1st pick selection the Oakland Raiders select Matt Barkley USC.

[crustyme]

palmers career qb rating is higher than eli and big ben.

[TwoWays]

He played well this game. Stop your hating on him. Could you look at this game and actually say he cost the raiders this game?

[crustyme]

In the NFL 2013 draft, with their 1st pick selection the Oakland Raiders select Matt Barkley USC.

guarantee they dont draft in the top 10.

[hockey216]

Eli threw for almost 5,000 yards last season. 4933 to be exact. that is over 1,000 more yards than what palmer averages every year.

[crustyme]

He played well this game. Stop your hating on him. Could you look at this game and actually say he cost the raiders this game?

blame the drops, fumble and awful special teams. palmer was the only bright spot.

[GunShard]

He played well this game. Stop your hating on him. Could you look at this game and actually say he cost the raiders this game?

True. Raiders recievers not catching the ball consistently.

[Pick'nParlays]

he looked really bad...

as a whole the looked uncoached.

[TwoWays]

McFadden was the brightest spot to be honest.

[hockey216]

palmers career qb rating is higher than eli and big ben.

eli used to suck. he was bad his first 4 years. he is much improved. his last 4 years have been good.

comparing manning to palmer in their last 4 years shows manning to have much higher qb rating.

eli threw just shy of 5,000 yards last season.

[onlooker]

McFadden was the brightest spot to be honest.

He had 13 receptions. I hope who ever has him in Fantasy, is in a PPR league.

[crustyme]

Eli threw for almost 5,000 yards last season. 4933 to be exact. that is over 1,000 more yards than what palmer averages every year.

palmer 3175yds/avg
eli 3088yds/avg

[crustyme]

eli used to suck. he was bad his first 4 years. he is much improved. his last 4 years have been good.

comparing manning to palmer in their last 4 years shows manning to have much higher qb rating.

eli threw just shy of 5,000 yards last season.

so since eli sucked early in his career we should just omit it even though palmer had much more success early in his career?

eli had one season where he passed over 4021 yds... last season. yet palmer has thrown for more yds per season.

[hockey216]

palmer 3175yds/avg
eli 3088yds/avg

eli was worse than palmer in his first 4 years. but in the last 4 years he has been much better. compare their numbers over the last 4 years.

Palmer has never thrown anywhere close to 5,000 yards.

yes when eli first entered league he was awful and palmer was better. However, over the last 4 years eli has been much better.

Oh, and how many super bowls has Palmer won?

Eli has 2 super bowl rings in the last 5 years.

[Goat Milk]

palmer stats for next week

24/26 (amazing), 91 yards, 0 tds, 1 pick six

[crustyme]

McFadden was the brightest spot to be honest.

not really.

15 carries - 32 yds (2.1 ypc)

all the passes were mere dink & dunk passes avg 6 yds. he also dropped about 3 passes.

[onlooker]

palmer stats for next week

24/26 (amazing), 91 yards, 0 tds, 1 pick six

McFadden with 14 of those completions.

[hockey216]

so since eli sucked early in his career we should just omit it even though palmer had much more success early in his career?

eli had one season where he passed over 4021 yds... last season. yet palmer has thrown for more yds per season.

it's a fair point. i thought you were trying to argue who is better now, or who has been better over the last 5 years. if you want to put a heavy weight towards the seasons that were 6-10 years ago... then sure. palmer and eli are about a wash in yrds per season. it all depends how you want to look at it. if you want to look at 8 years and put them all at equal weight... you can make a case for their similarities (although i will argue that Eli's steller postseason play accounts for something). I tend to personally believe that more emphasis should be given on last 5 years.

im not even a huge eli fan. although 2 super bowls in 5 years is impressive. and throwing for practically 5,000 yards in one season is impressive.

im just remarking that you were saying palmer is among the league leaders. this i would have to disagree with.

i think the league leaders at QB position are:

Brady
Rodgers
Payton Manning
Brees

I don't really think Palmer is anywhere close to the category that they are in.

When people talk about "league leaders" i got the impression you were comparing Palmer to Brady, Rodgers, P. Manning, and Brees. I would have to disagree. I think they are in a class of their own. i dont even think palmer is close.

that's just my opinion though. you are free to disagree. i enjoyed having an intellectual discussion with you.

[TwoWays]

All I know by watching the game and not looking at the stats was that he allowed for many of those wide receiver drops to happen.